Something we always 'knew' now has some evidence

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by Recusant, Feb 13, 2012.

  1. Recusant

    Recusant Active Member

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    The Aussie Swastika was out in force this year gone, with more tattoos and car stickers than ever. It's a pity 'the cross' is associated with racist views by enough people (anecdotally) for it to be called the Aussie Swastika. This study, however, is about the Aussie flag flapping about on peoples cars.

    I will admit to more or less thinking what this study demonstrates. Interesting, maybe i'm not so off the pulse after all.

    http://www.news.uwa.edu.au/201201234297/research/study-shows-racist-views-link-car-flags
     
  2. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The study surveyed only 513 out of 23 million. Hardly enough to make this believable - although I wouldn't be suprised if it was.
     
  3. Uncle Meat

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    I don't think you're 'off the pulse' at all.

    I also believe that people who fly Australian flags on their cars generally tend to express more racist attitudes than others without flags.

    Moreover, my belief is based on first hand observations.

    I have also noticed that one never sees a flag attached to a BMW, Mercedes, or Audi. It always seems to be a Holden, Falcon, or 4x4 Toyota.
    Of course, I'm not saying that Audi owners never do it, it's just that I've never seen one myself.

    Now, there are a couple of flag wavers in this forum who think that Professor Fozdar and her study are not entirely credible and they will undoubtedly jump into this thread and declare me a "bigot" and "hater" (it's always personal attacks, never evidence to support their counter argument).

    For the record, I don't hate flag wavers and I don't treat them any different to a non-flag waver. I just believe that they are generally of a lower IQ than the average person and as such they usually tend to have racist attitudes. I find them highly amusing and have no desire to stop them doing whatever it is that turns them on.

    They just make me laugh :)
     
  4. axialturban

    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    Was that the study where they asked people at single Australia Day fireworks event? I reckon it might have been at night on Ausday (fireworks) meaning disproportionate intoxication and lack of families with small children due to lateness. The only people I know who use the flag in this way do so for the kids.

    I think your mixing up the use of the flag with the people who get southern cross tattoo's... and with them you'll probably find a eureka flag sticker on their car as well (union).
     
  5. Uncle Meat

    Uncle Meat Banned

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    The event attracts many families with children:

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    And many bogans:

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  6. axialturban

    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    I keep thinking they have a midnight fireworks but its not bloody NYE :weed:
     
  7. Uncle Meat

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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    spot on, and I love the bogan pics, and in MHO, flag waving = bogans
     
  9. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Show me any research, poll, whatever that captures a 100% target range. Stats similar to this is what medical research etc is based on, it does work out to be rather accurate if done properly.

    Actually >500 for this is a good sample space
     
  10. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Calling the Aussie flag a Swastika, taking a "study" of 513 people as representitive of the Australian population, photos of people celebrating Australia Day & doing NOTHING wrong, abuse, bigotry & low tactics.


    I`ll take a credability reading.

    Nup, nothing showing on the dial.

    Thread. :tombstone:
     
  11. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Hey!!! I dress like a bogan and act like one too and I'm proud of it! (I don't wear trakkie daks unless I have nothing else to wear and you won't catch me in Moccies)
     
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    flag waving = bogans = bigot.

    Well done you.
     
  13. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    I love it when people tell me that the Australian flag is sacred because so many Australian soldiers died "for that flag". They always look so confused when I tell them that they have the wrong flag on.
     
  14. Recusant

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    I didn't, i merely referenced them both in the same post. The Aussie Swastika refers to the Southern Cross. I thought it was quite clear if one reads the sentences with any degree of care.

    It's not perfect, it doesn't survey thousands or millions, but in the absence of anything better (that confirms or contradicts), and from my personal experience i will take it on face value.
     
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    Recusant Active Member

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    Why not? They're very practical.

    Maybe you're a 'trendy' ;)
     
  16. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Weren't our troops in Vietnam the first to fight under thee Australian flag?
     
  17. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    I haven't owned a pair for 30 years
     
  18. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    I don't know. I do know that almost all of the almost 103 000 names on the Roll of Honour at the Australian War Memorial died while serving under either the Union Flag or the Australian Red Ensign.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    I think you`ll find that the jellybacks hate the Union Flag & the Australian Red Ensign too.
     
  20. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Yep, I just asked 3 people, and a dog, and I got a 100% positive.
    My study has now confirmed what we always suspected. :dog:
     
  21. Saifudeen

    Saifudeen New Member

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    Has anyone else noticed just how many of these are still being worn by drivers?
    The next 'Eff off we're full' trend?
     
  22. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Don`t let that pesky old reality influence your "thinking".
     
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    Saifudeen New Member

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    Don't let reality influence my thinking?
    It's clear that you don't...
     
  24. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    I very much doubt that I could influence your thinking, I`m too close to the real world for comfort. :frustrated:
     
  25. culldav

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    I think this is clear evidence as to why Indian Universities are producing more qualified and educated candidates than Australian Universities - Australian Universities have nothing better to teach their students than to send them out to canvas this kind of rubbish survey than means nothing.

    I also think it’s a case whereby some white Australians want to be too ethnic, and refuse to look at the whole picture. When white Australians start waving the flag as patriots and being proud of who they are, these white pretend ethnic Australian and ethnic Australians themselves become paranoid and start accusing white Australians of being racist.

    Simple solution: if you don’t want Australians to be proud of who they are, then lets STOP celebrating Australia Day and ANZAC DAY, and lets get on with it, because everyone is being sent crossed signals.

    On ANZAC Day its ok to wave the flag and celebrate, but on Australia Day if we do the same thing we are called racist and bogans.

    Make up your mind people - you are starting to sound like a really bad episode of:
    “The Days of Juliar”.
     

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