Barack Obama Impeachment!

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  1. ImpeachObama

    ImpeachObama New Member

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    Barack Obama needs to be impeached asap. he is leading this country into a state that no country ever wants to be in. if we do not stop him who knows what state our economy will be in by the end of the year! we need supporters if we want to do this. please help!
     
  2. Kcsorba

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    I personally am not a fan of Obama and want him out of office, but there's no reason to go to the extreme of impeaching him. Hopefully by next January he will respectfully face defeat as he resigns as President and a republican takes office. Impeachment is way too drastic.
     
  3. Meta777

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    Do you have like a petition or something?

    Also, I was under the impression that impeachment required that the president first commit some unlawful act.
    What unlawful act has Obama committed?...other than socialism, being a illegal alien, a Muslim, and lying about it all?
     
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    First you would have to give an example of an impeachable offense.
     
  5. RiseAgainst

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    You have to be joking.

    Agreed OP, impeachment is long passed due.
     
  6. WatcherOfTheGate

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    So you got nothing? Why am I not surprised?
     
  7. RiseAgainst

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    Libya.

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    Not impeachable. Try again.

    Not what you believe is impeachable an actual impeachable offense.
     
  9. Meta777

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    1973 War Powers Resolution and Presidential Precedent.
     
  10. RiseAgainst

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    Libya violated the war powers resolution.
     
  11. kenrichaed

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    You need to be very careful when you consider impeaching a President for anything. Unless you have something more than just a policy you don't like it will set a very bad precedent.

    Presidents will no longer be bold and make decisions they think are correct and they will simply only make decisions based on what recent polls say for fear of being thrown out of office.

    Every great President has had to make decisions that were against the will of the people at times and they should not have this fear of easy impeachment hanging around their neck.

    What you do to Obama can easily be done to the next republican president also.
     
  12. RiseAgainst

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    The politicians are the ones who need to be careful. The less they do, the better we the people's freedoms can be secured. Obama doesn't merely do things "I don't like". He has repetitively violated the constitution and oath he swore in as president.
     
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    One example please.
     
  14. RiseAgainst

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    Obamacare, individual mandate.
     
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    Yes and the Supreme Court will more than likely throw it out. Do you have any idea how many policies FDR had thrown out because they were unconstitutional?

    Hell he got so tired of his legislation being kicked back he tried to get Congress to amend the Constitution to make 11 judges on the Supreme Court so he could pick two more who would pass his bills.

    Putting up legislation that some deem unconstitutional is not a grounds for impeachment.

    What else you got?
     
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    Can't believe I'm actually defending the administration and I hate you for making me do it.

    This was simple partisan tactics which I'm sure you realize. Congress was only in session because the republicans were trying to block the appointment of these people. They had no intention of actually getting work done.

    Even the courts have realized that these issues are simple turf battles: From your own source:

     
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    That depends on whether or not you believe protecting non-violent citizens constitutes an act of war.
    It also depends on your view of Presidential Precedent.
     
  19. RiseAgainst

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    Qaddafi was good to his people. The problem is many of them are savages. Just look at how they ended his life, in violation of international laws.
     
  20. kenrichaed

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    Qaddafi was good unless you were a tribal leader, a member of the media, part of a political organization against him, a sympathizer with the west.....any of those equaled your death in Libya.

    Yea he was a real peach.
     
  21. SFJEFF

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    So you seriously are advocating impeaching the President for signing a law that Congress passed....

    Seriously?
     
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    Apparently you can't wait for the voters to decide whether Obama should be President.....
     
  23. Rollo1066

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    The decision to impeach or not impeach the President is up the House of Representatives. They are the sole judge of what is an impeachable offense. It is a political proceeding and proof of a crime isn't an absolute requirement. Conviction or acquital is up to the Senate. It takes a 2/3 vote to convict.

    If the President is impeached, the Chief Justice is the presding officer of the Senate for the trial instead of the Vice-President.

    This would mean 67 votes (assuming all Senators vote). This is a very high barrier to sucessful removal of the President.

    President Andrew Johnson was impeached in 1868 and the vote in the Senate was 1 vote short of conviction. He was accused of violating the Tenure of Office Act by dismissing a member of the cabinet (I believe it was Edwin Stanton) who wasn't loyal to him after Congress passed a law prohibiting him from doing that over his veto.

    President Clinton was impeached in 2007, conviction was never a possibility. Clinton was accused of having committed perjury in a civil case.

    Both were accused of legal violations.

    The real reason for Johnson's impeachment was that Congress disagreed with his reconstruction policy, as being too easy on the South.

    People could argue a lot about the reason for Clinton's impeachment, but my belief was it was mostly personal hatred by his political enemys.

    In both cases there was at least an attept to come up with a legal basis. In my opinion in neither case was the basis very strong.

    I'm sure that a lot of Republicans would like to impeach Obama but his conduct has not been such as to give much of a basis for a charge he is violating the law. They also know that a majority Democratic Senate wouldn't convict. I'm quite sure that nowhere near a majority of Americans would support impeachment without a strong basis.

    Nixon would almost certainly have been Impeached and Convicted if he hadn't resigned first. He had lost the political support of his own party. I can't see this occuring today to Obama.
     
  24. Daybreaker

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    Okay. What are the charges, specifically? Or are you going for more of a general lack of confidence kind of thing?
     
  25. WatcherOfTheGate

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    Then why is there no impeachment happening? I'm sure you have a better grasp of the situation then Congress.
     

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