Santorum in '08: "Satan is attacking" America

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  1. Blackrook

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    The media is having a field day on this and even Rush Limbaugh is saying this isn't "normal."

    What people need to realize is that Santorum is a Catholic and he was talking to an audience at Ave Maria, which is a Catholic college.

    And Catholics believe in Satan as a real person who intervenes in human history and changes things.

    So what seems abnormal to outsiders is perfectly normal among Catholics.

    The Catholic Church has thousands of priests who perform exorcisms. An exorcism is to remove demons who have possessed a person.

    Holy water is created by a priest performing an exorcism on water. Satan is actually removed from the water to make it holy.

    A Catholic Church is consencrated, which is a rite to remove Satan from the site of a church building.

    Santorum's remark about the Protestant Churches reflect a typical attitude of Catholics. We tend to believe that the mainline Protestant churches are on their last dying gasp. And this opinion is borne out by these churches cave on divorce, birth control, abortion, married priests, women priests, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, etc.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Rick was just talking about Nancy Pelosi, and used Satan as a metaphor?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Q8RynUbvU"]The Hypocrisy of Democrat, Nancy Pelosi - YouTube[/ame]
     
  3. Think for myself

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    Pardon my French, but what a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing loon that guy is.

    Seriously, folks would vote for someone who believes that a devil is going around the world attacking the United States?

    Yes, a supernatural being hates America so much he or she is trying to destroy it.
     
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    Is it crazier than saying "God bless America"?
     
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    Little bit, but then again I don't say "god bless America".
     
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    If you believe God can bless America then you can believe that Satan attacks America.
     
  7. Think for myself

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    Odd. I never said I believed some god could bestow his/her blessing on America.
     
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    Sig worthy.

    On second thought, a sig should be something unexpected.
     
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    His statement isn't about you. It's about the majority of Americans, who both say things like "God Bless America", and who believe in Satan.

    As I do.

    This world is infected with evil, and I believe that Satan is behind it.
     
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    satan sure as hell gave us the current administration.
     
  11. Think for myself

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    Congratulations. Go pray it away.
     
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    ^^^
    yup!, that and the congress..
     
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    There is a devil there is no doubt, but is he trying to get in you or trying to get out?
     
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    Satan doesn't attack countries, Satan tempts individuals, who then have to make the choice between right and wrong.

    But that has nothing to do with the problems facing America.

    I would say that a bigger threat to America is the delusional theocratic fascist who is running for President, named Rick Santorum.
     
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    You have a better idea?
     
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    Did you have a point here or did you just want to start a silly argument about your god?
     
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    Another reason I believe religious people have a true mental disorder.
     
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    God bless America is a prayer asking God to bring good fortune to our endeavors.

    The devil is attacking the United States is the cop out of a failed senator who is totally bankrupt in the ideas department. Do you think we are out $1 Trillion+ in the Middle East because "the devil is attacking us." Or do you think we are out $1 Trillion+ in the Middle East because our last president was an idiot and started a pointless war.
     
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    Wait a minute. I thought you told us you had a higher IQ than 99.9% of the population. Did I misunderstand you?
     
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    No,,,,,,, both are idiotic.
     
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    Some Catholics do!! However, that is a highly contested point in catholic theology. Many catholics instead interpret the devil not as literal entity, but instead as a metaphorical entity that represents the desire in all of us to "sin" or do "evil' deeds. A view I personally find to be far more sophisticated, convincing, and believable!!


    PS. This is bat (*)(*)(*)(*) nutty stuff!! We simply cannot have anymore leaders who attribute super natural causes to 100% natural problems!! If we can simply explain it away by blaming satan, how do we counteract satan? With policy changes? That seems like it would be ineffective against satan!!
     
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    :giggle: People are more than capable of committing evil without needing a supernatural red demon to be behind it!! It is really just a cop out, that shifts responsibility away from those who the responsibility belongs with!! Satan has nothing to do with it, some people are just messed up, insane, sick, jealous, stupid, hateful, narcissistic, masochistic, sociopathic, etc!! No red demon necessary!!
     
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    No there is definitely a doubt!! In fact there is NO devil, there is very little doubt. The entire idea is idiotic and absurd!!
     
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    He didn't mean the population of humans!! :wink:
     

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