Mormans think Native americans were white at one time

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  1. Doc Dred

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    the whole premise of the religion is that jesus came over here when he was dead...taught the people here stuff...

    they forgot about it and God turned their skin colour as a mark of their disobedience..

    the next president of the USA could ....well read this from a political post i just made....what ya think about it from a religion point of view...the post was originally a political one....



    Jesus came over to North America and taught an all white native peoples....
    after they forgot about this teaching God turned them to look like Native american . the skin colour is their mark for all time..

    this is a Morman dogma


    i don't get why he didn't tell the disciples of His trip over here ...

    but the president of the united states would give massive credence to this absurd belief
     
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    Every mormon I've ever met is super nice. BUT.

    They believe some really really wacky irrational stuff that make me seriously wonder how any intelligent person could believe it. South Park said it best:

    The video quality is horrible, but the song is still hilarious: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gm6JYFdnD8"]South park Mormon - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    to all ::::::::::

    the term "white" is not something which all of us accept. the term "white" became a part of our general vocabulary very recently, only after exploration and early colonialism. the case which is being questioned in this thread refers to a very ancient and prehistoric time; a time well before any use of the term "white".

    therefore there may be no discussion about all this; except by racists.

    vlad
     
  4. fifthofnovember

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    Turns out they were right. At least the part about some of them once being white. DNA analysis on Native Americans
     
  5. Wolverine

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    The Book of Mormon is blatantly racist.

    I don't understand why anyone would follow it.
     
  6. fifthofnovember

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    Hell, the Old Testament is blatantly racist.
     
  7. Wolverine

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    That is true as well.
     
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    Is there anything so insensible that a mormon or christian wont believe it?
     
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    insensible??
     
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    Did it ever occur to you that perhaps God is racist? After all, he did create different races with different body shapes, hair types, skin colors, and psychological propensities.

    Perhaps that is the reason progressives hate god so much.
     
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    Man nailed him to the cross before so he had better be careful if he shows up again.
     
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    No, that's diversity, not racism. Maybe your god is a liberal-progressive, why else would he create, in his own image, a multitude of differently looking humans?
     
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    not quite right but the truth is no better

    The skin thing happened to some of the lite skinned Jewish American shortly after they got hear
     
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    no worse then saying are ancestors were a dirt man and a rib women and that rainbows exist because got put his bow in the sky to tell us he won’t drown us all and that different languages exist because people tried to build a tall building

    all of that is rather bad to
     
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    Well I heard they also believe that God lives on another planet or something like that. I am not sure if that is true or not. I have never in my life cracked open the book of Mormon.
     
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    that’s in another book not quite sure myself though
     
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    to taikoo :::::::

    that is an excellent question. and it seems that almost all christians are willing to believe (and teach their beliefs) practicaly anything.

    perhaps my comment is much too much restrained.

    the correct reply to your question may be -- all christians, with mormons included, are willing to believe any insensible belief.

    there; now that feels better. it feels good to be truthful.

    christianity is a vast collection of insensible beliefs, and the mormons have a double size collection.

    vlad
     
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    to gabriel :::::::

    the word "insensible" clearly means "un-sensible" - "not sensible" - "senseless"

    it is clearly correct use of vocabulary. ? was the problem spelling ?
    spelling itself is a problem.

    vlad
     
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    YOU DO HAVE TWO POINTS

    to fifth ::::::::::::

    your second point is well taken. i can agree with you.

    however; your first point is based on confusion and incorrect beliefs.
    yes; we could say that the creator did create different races of mankind; and yes, those races are distinguished by different physical properties. however neither you nor anyone else has any real proof that races do have any identifiable "psychological propensities". that comes from the way in which we are """raised"" not the way in which we are "raced" i hope that my explaination has not been too slow for you.

    vlad
     
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    You would be shocked at how rarely the ancestry of Native Americans comes up while making every day Presidential decisions.
     
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    Isn't it great how someone who believes that would still have more popular support for political office than an atheist candidate?

    Yay America.
     
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    Well they are not entirely wrong !
    Nobody is "native" American , most of their genes come from a Siberian tribe called Chuktchis (phonetic spelling ...sorry) but part of it is European , you may search for the Clovis culture in the internet , the Atlantic ocean was frozen because of the ice age and it was possible to walk from France to Manhattan and some Europeans did it so yeah some of the "native" Americans were white at one time.
     
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    Were the native Mexicans and native Brazilians also white?
     
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    The entire population of the Americas came from like 50 Siberians and a handful of Europeans but the body adapts to the conditions fast, so the white tribe had to change skin colour fast either by adapting or by mixing . What i posted is that some of the natives were actually Europeans.

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    This is the reconstructed face of the oldest human skull found in the continent and it has a striking resemblance to the oldest human (modern Homo Sapient) skull found in Europe. As you may notice our African ancestry is obvious but people back then had both Asian and European characteristics so you can safely say that it could go any way . Book of mormon could easily claim that natives used to be Negro or Asians and still be correct :)
     

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