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Thread: I Really Like Ron Paul. I Really Do. I'm Voting For Obama Though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoPartyAffiliation View Post
    Obama isn't great but during the last year he's been pretty dam good.
    I'm voting for him.
    Name something 'dam good' ...

    As to the rest:

    I didn't have time to read your post but your headline, and this last paragraph suggests you are a very confused voter. The only thing Paul has in common with Obama is that he is weak on defense - doesn't have a clue about it.

    Paul wants to take away all federal benefits (& state for that matter). If he had his way, there would be no social security, no medicare, no medicaid, no food stamps, etc. PERIOD.

    Obama WANTS everyone to get entitlements and wants to create dependency on government to create a socialist country.

    So How you can make a statement like you made in your subject line shows you are very confused IMHO. (respectfully)
    Last edited by Raeka; Feb 25 2012 at 06:29 AM.
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    I DID build that Darn it! Take back America from the Socialists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raeka View Post
    Name something 'dam good' ...

    As to the rest:

    I didn't have time to read your post but your headline, and this last paragraph suggests you are a very confused voter. The only thing Paul has in common with Obama is that he is weak on defense - doesn't have a clue about it.

    Paul wants to take away all federal benefits (& state for that matter). If he had his way, there would be no social security, no medicare, no medicaid, no food stamps, etc. PERIOD.

    Obama WANTS everyone to get entitlements and wants to create dependency on government to create a socialist country.

    So How you can make a statement like you made in your subject line shows you are very confused IMHO. (respectfully)
    Paul isn't weak on defense... just aggression.
    The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries but between authoritarians and libertarians.

    -George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raeka View Post
    Name something 'dam good' ...

    Promised shift from Iraq to Afghan: Kept.
    Promised to pursue the people who attacked us: Exceeded beyond all expectation!
    Promised to get us out of all Bush wars when objectives actually met: Kept.
    Promise to Fund VA's again: Kept.
    Promised to hire more counselors etc... for the Vets: Kept.
    Promised to repeal DADT: Kept.
    Promised to get rid mandatory sentecing: Kept
    Promised to put more focus, money and manpower into Special Forces and Intel: Kept.


    As to the rest:

    I didn't have time to read your post but your headline, and this last paragraph suggests you are a very confused voter. The only thing Paul has in common with Obama is that he is weak on defense - doesn't have a clue about it.

    I am quite clear thank you. I think it is you who are confused or at least influenced the the RW media machine. Paul is not "weak on defense". Which of our recent wars do you think was a brilliant idea? Iraq? Afghanistan?
    And Obama weak on defense??? The GOP wishes they had someone as effective as this president. There hasn't been a president - Dem or Repub, as strong as Obama, since Bush Sr. I can cite specifics on this.


    Paul wants to take away all federal benefits (& state for that matter). If he had his way, there would be no social security, no medicare, no medicaid, no food stamps, etc. PERIOD.

    Yes. These are some of the thing with which I disagree. There are other things I disagree with Paul on as well. But unlike the partisan drones out there, I don't have to fully agree with everything to admire some things.

    Obama WANTS everyone to get entitlements and wants to create dependency on government to create a socialist country.

    I thought they took Glenn Beck of the air! Oh wait. Radio. That would be about the only explanation for the above statement. Then again, maybe you have specifics instead of soundbites. I'll wait to see if that's the case.

    So How you can make a statement like you made in your subject line shows you are very confused IMHO. (respectfully)
    You seem to have offered lots of opinions that can be atrributed verbatim to druge, americanthinker and other RW extremist media. And like those sites, seem short on facts or specifics - but are definitely dichotomous in your thinking. You also mention absolutely nothing as to who is better and specifically why.
    The easiest way to identify the difference between those who are truly "confused" or influenced and those who think clear is easy. Every president does some things well and some poorly. Those who are "under the influence", and completely unable to acknowledge the positives of "the other side".
    What do you think Obama has done well?

    Only a fool would believe the Democrats are right about everything or to blame for everything. Only a fool would believe the Republicans are right about everything or to blame for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoPartyAffiliation View Post
    Ron Paul is really the only guy worth watching in the debates. He's just so danm honest! I agree with him on a LOT of points too e.g. Why TF are we giving money to foreign politicians when we don't even trust our own; the war on drugs has already been lost etc...
    But the stuff I disagree with him on, I disagree with so strongly that I won't vote for him. Plus I find the Libertarian Philosophy very flawed when it comes to The Market correcting itself. I've lived in places that had virturally no corporate regulation. No thanks.
    I didn't like Obama at all for about two years. There are two things I'm still pretty furious with him about: ObamaCare and NDAA. Oh well.
    But he has kept a LOT of his promises (including ObamaCare, which was one I wish he hadn't).
    I didn't blame Bush for high prices and I don't blame Obama (well, maybe just a little but not to the extent the ConservaRepubs would like to believe).
    I find this to be the most absurd time in history for the GOP to be so focused on social issues. I am former military and had friends who were Force Recon in Afghanistan. An Army translator listened in on chatter and kept them away from some seriously bad juju. Turned out he was gay. Took weeks to get another guy fluent in Pashtu or whatever TF it was.
    So repealing DADT was a seriously big deal to a lot of people.
    Also, as the DOO of a charity that helps returning troops and Veterans, I watched them get screwed by the GOP for years. Obama has funded a TON of programs for Vets and the VA that I like a lot. Also, he specifically had language written in that put in place the strongest protective measures of women in the military in history.
    When I'm volunteering, the three candidates I hear the most positives things about are #1. Obama #2. Ron Paul and #3. "Anyone but Obama" (from the diehard ConservaRepubs). But there is no denying, this guy is liked a lot more military than any Dem in a long time.
    Getting us out of Iraq is a big deal. I know it was already set but gee, have presidents spun things and broken promises before. So okey dokey.
    He said he'd take the focus to Afghanistan and go after the people who actually attacked America. He killed more Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders in a couple years, than Bush did in eight. He followed the leads from dozens of SOF ops to Pakistan. Then, right in public, he negotiated the release of a US spy from the Pakistan government. A couple months later, He got Bin Laden and yes, I give him credit for that. Now that we finally MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, he's announced the withdraw from Afghanistan. All Bush's wars are over. The most important one, won by Obama.
    And waddya know. We're getting out.
    Libya. The Republicans (Boehner, Cantor) were screaming we should "Do Something". Then, with an actual NATO led force, we did. Not one American life. Quick withdraw. So of course, the Republicans suddenly became doves and screamed "Hey! He DID something!". WTF??? Hypocrisy much?
    Same thing with Aw Lakhi. Suddenly the GOP sounded more like the ACLU! WTF!!!!

    So what are the Republicans offering me? Romney seemed worth a look but he has been forced into Romney Version 5.9 by the other two. Now he is so socially Conservative! For now.

    After months of talking about the fact that, even if the Dow is going up and UnEmployment is (according to FOX) going down and manufacturing is going up and.... well whatever, ALL is Doom & Gloom! Also it's all about the DEFICIT! That's the key folks!
    So they all released their budgets. All of their budgets RAISE THE DEFICIT!!! WTF??? (okay not Ron Paul).
    The same low taxes that haven't made a dam bit of difference in the economy or unemployment for years, will suddenly cure all ills if we elect them. Riiiiight.
    Gay marriage? Like I care. But I do think they should be able to visit each other in hospitals and get benefits or whatever? Sure why not.
    Contraception? Are you outta your dam mind??? Yeah, THAT will get my vote.
    All these social issues leave me unimpressed.

    The GOP candidates suck. Really, badly.
    Obama isn't great but during the last year he's been pretty dam good.
    I'm voting for him.

    LibDems may now chime in their agreement.
    Libertarians may now make valid points and arguments.
    ConservaRepubs may now sling insults and labels. (Except Fitz and a couple others who are actually great debaters!)
    So your going to vote for this liar fraud who like Bushwacker,has taken a crap on the constitution of the united states,bows down and gives in to israel as this video proves
    http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=693

    and is here to serve wall street and them instead of us instead of Paul? Nice,one more american sheep to blame for the decline and police state that america is now.no surprise since you covered you ears and closed your eyes when shown that video THE OBAMA DECEPTION that proves how someone would have to be a fool to reelect this guy.

    oh and as far as your fantasys that he has pulled us out of Iraq and Afghanistan,keep on living in that fairy tale land,Obama recently asked for 32 billion dollars for the war In Iraq.yep he sure pulled us out of Iraq alright. lol.

    Knowing how you can only throw insults when you cant counter facts I know better than to try and bother with you,so i wont even bother with your reply to this,all it will be is insults without admitting the truth and defeat.you wont even address the video on this marxist president of ours THE OBAMA DECEPTION which proves you are afraid of the truth and wont watch it.nice.
    Last edited by 9/11 was an inside job; Feb 25 2012 at 12:25 PM.
    five 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologists on ignore.Reason? they lie when they are defeated and wont look at the evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raeka View Post
    Paul wants to take away all federal benefits (& state for that matter). If he had his way, there would be no social security, no medicare, no medicaid, no food stamps, etc. PERIOD.
    Do you have any proof whatsoever that he intends to take those away...especially how he has stated numerous times that he is not eliminating SS/Medicare. As a matter of fact, he has said he is keeping SS and allowing people the option to OPT OUT if they want.

    So please provide credible sources for your allegations...

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