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    As a new member to this forum, I would like to talk about illegal immigration. As a descendent from Hispanic culture, I believe that illegal immigrants in this country should not be deported because they help pay taxes, they are a form of cheap labor, they do jobs that other americans do not want to do at a low wage and for no benefits, and they help stimulate the economy because they consume and spend like any other american. I need to remind you that the United States was founded by immigrants. Back in history, the immigrants from Europe and from all over the world landed on Ellis Island in New York. They made this country prosperous throughout their hard work and talent. They escaped their country because there were no economic opportunities or simply because they were going to get killed by their own government. The United States of America is the land of second chances. If people from Latin America and Mexico migrate and enter the United States illegaly just be prosperous as we are, then why not give them a second chance? Do I have to remind you that illegal immigrants work as twice as hard to serve our fresh vegetables and fruits in our plates. They take these jobs because they are low-paid and they are better salaries than the ones they recieve in Mexico or any other latin country. If you look into Mexico, the drug cartels are taking over and killing innocent people because they want more respect. Drug Cartels are controlling Mexico. Mexico is a corrupt country because of the drug cartel warefare that is going on and because of the huge poverty in the country as well. The same goes for latin american countries. If we want the United States to keep its motto as "The land of second chances", then we need to support illegal immigration and stop separating families. If we start deporting illegal immigrants just because they entered the United States illegaly, then we are separating families and our motto would be "The land of seperation". For all of you political folks that hate illegal immigration, think twice again. Think about it. What if we do not have illegal immigrants in our country? What would happen to the economy? What would happen to our fruits and vegetables? What would happen to our services if there weren't enough taxpayers? Illegal immigrants are in here for a reason and they are here for the American Dream. Stop the racism and stop the deportation. Illegal immigrants are people like us. They are regular people who are seeking opportunities everyday. Deport the illegal immigrants that are involved in crimes and drugs not the ones that are here illegally and searching for economic opportunity and etc. Deport the ones that cause trouble not the innocent ones.

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    Federal Appeals Court 'Ignores Rule of Law,' Defers to White House on Deportation Cases
    March 2, 2012 – Does the Obama administration intend to enforce the nation’s immigration laws or not? Two Republicans are asking that question, after a federal appeals court halted the deportation of five suspected illegal aliens on Monday, asking the Obama administration whether it plans to stop the deportations.
    In a 2-1 ruling, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals set a March 19 deadline for the Obama administration to explain whether it intends to use “prosecutorial discretion” to prevent the aliens’ removal. The five cases are on hold in the meantime. On Thursday, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas,) chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Utah), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the Obama administration must make it clear to the court that the administration will enforce immigration laws, including the deportation of illegal and criminal immigrants who lose their cases in the federal court.

    In a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday, Smith and Grassley wrote: “In responding to the Ninth Circuit’s question, the administration will be required to reveal whether it intends to manipulate our legal system and waste taxpayer dollars, as part of its efforts to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants. “Your response to the Ninth Circuit’s order must clearly and unequivocally indicate that the government will enforce the immigration laws, including promptly deporting all removable aliens who lose their cases in the federal courts of appeals,” the lawmakers wrote.

    In its ruling, the appeals court instructed the Obama administration “to advise the court by March 19, 2012, whether the government intends to exercise prosecutorial discretion in this case” – and if so, how that would affect “any action to be taken by this court.” John Morton, the head of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, directed ICE officials last June to use “discretion” in deciding whether to detain or deport illegal immigrants. The intention is to kick out the worst offenders and release the all the others – specifically victims of domestic violence and other crimes; witnesses to crimes; or illegal aliens who are charged with minor traffic violations.

    In their letter, the Republican lawmakers said they are “seriously concerned” that the court, in placing the deportations on hold, “ignores the rule of law and confounds constitutional principles, and we would like to know who how you plan to respond to the Court’s actions,” they added. And if the Obama administration, in its response to the court, indicates that illegal and other removable aliens will be granted amnesty – “then it must explain to the American people what that answer means for the integrity of our legal system and why their tax dollars are being spent on prosecutions that the Obama administration has no intention of enforcing with deportation.”

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    77 Percent of Illegals Caught on Mexican Border Were Not Prosecuted
    February 29, 2012 – About 77 percent of the 327,577 illegal aliens caught along the Mexican border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) during fiscal 2011 were not prosecuted, according to government data analyzed by the office of Rep. John Culberson.
    The Texas Republican, whose district includes parts of Houston, submitted a document containing the data for the record at a Wednesday hearing of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security. The hearing focused on the budget for CBP. Culberson gave CNSNews.com a copy of the document, which contains prosecution rate figures for illegal aliens apprehended by CBP between FY2007 and FY2011.

    According to figures made public by CBP, 327,577 illegal aliens were caught along the southwest border during fiscal year 2011 (Oct. 1, 2010 thru Sept. 30, 2011). Of those 327,577, only 74,975 (about 22.9 percent) were prosecuted, according to Justice Department data obtained by Culberson, while 252,602 (77.1 percent) were not prosecuted. Culberson said during the hearing that those who were not prosecuted were “home in time for dinner.”

    The Texas congressman said the prosecution numbers came from U.S. Attorney offices along the southwest border. The Department of Justice (DOJ), which oversees the U.S. Attorneys, does not publicize the data on prosecutions of aliens arrested by CBP, but Culberson said during the hearing that his office verified the figures with both DOJ and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees CBP.

    He also provided a copy of the document to U.S. Border Patrol chief Michael Fisher, who testified at the hearing. Fisher did not dispute the accuracy of the data. Border Patrol is a component of CBP. The prosecution rate was higher in FY2011 than in the previous fiscal year, when of 447,731 aliens taken into custody, only 16.4 percent (73,263) were prosecuted, leaving 374,468 who did not face any legal repercussions.

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    So here is my suggestion: Forget bombs -- we should drop Obama administration policy makers on Iraq and Syria. That would ensure the ruin of the Islamic State in no time!

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    Illegal Felons should be (Pronto)

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    we need a solution without amnesty ... fix it washington
    Don't Blame Me I Voted For Gary Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickrolld300 View Post
    As a new member to this forum, I would like to talk about illegal immigration. As a descendent from Hispanic culture, I believe that illegal immigrants in this country should not be deported because they help pay taxes, they are a form of cheap labor, they do jobs that other americans do not want to do at a low wage and for no benefits, and they help stimulate the economy because they consume and spend like any other american. I need to remind you that the United States was founded by immigrants. Back in history, the immigrants from Europe and from all over the world landed on Ellis Island in New York. They made this country prosperous throughout their hard work and talent. They escaped their country because there were no economic opportunities or simply because they were going to get killed by their own government. The United States of America is the land of second chances. If people from Latin America and Mexico migrate and enter the United States illegaly just be prosperous as we are, then why not give them a second chance? Do I have to remind you that illegal immigrants work as twice as hard to serve our fresh vegetables and fruits in our plates. They take these jobs because they are low-paid and they are better salaries than the ones they recieve in Mexico or any other latin country. If you look into Mexico, the drug cartels are taking over and killing innocent people because they want more respect. Drug Cartels are controlling Mexico. Mexico is a corrupt country because of the drug cartel warefare that is going on and because of the huge poverty in the country as well. The same goes for latin american countries. If we want the United States to keep its motto as "The land of second chances", then we need to support illegal immigration and stop separating families. If we start deporting illegal immigrants just because they entered the United States illegaly, then we are separating families and our motto would be "The land of seperation". For all of you political folks that hate illegal immigration, think twice again. Think about it. What if we do not have illegal immigrants in our country? What would happen to the economy? What would happen to our fruits and vegetables? What would happen to our services if there weren't enough taxpayers? Illegal immigrants are in here for a reason and they are here for the American Dream. Stop the racism and stop the deportation. Illegal immigrants are people like us. They are regular people who are seeking opportunities everyday. Deport the illegal immigrants that are involved in crimes and drugs not the ones that are here illegally and searching for economic opportunity and etc. Deport the ones that cause trouble not the innocent ones.
    Seriously? You are so wrong on so many levels.

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    Either deport them or ensure that they live decent happy lives.
    I refuse to allow impoverished exploited workers to live in my country.
    I will use my vote to force the businesses to pay for the true cost of their "cheap" immigrant workers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickrolld300 View Post
    As a new member to this forum, I would like to talk about illegal immigration. As a descendent from Hispanic culture, I believe that illegal immigrants in this country should not be deported because they help pay taxes, they are a form of cheap labor, they do jobs that other americans do not want to do at a low wage and for no benefits, and they help stimulate the economy because they consume and spend like any other american. I need to remind you that the United States was founded by immigrants. Back in history, the immigrants from Europe and from all over the world landed on Ellis Island in New York. They made this country prosperous throughout their hard work and talent. They escaped their country because there were no economic opportunities or simply because they were going to get killed by their own government. The United States of America is the land of second chances. If people from Latin America and Mexico migrate and enter the United States illegaly just be prosperous as we are, then why not give them a second chance? Do I have to remind you that illegal immigrants work as twice as hard to serve our fresh vegetables and fruits in our plates. They take these jobs because they are low-paid and they are better salaries than the ones they recieve in Mexico or any other latin country. If you look into Mexico, the drug cartels are taking over and killing innocent people because they want more respect. Drug Cartels are controlling Mexico. Mexico is a corrupt country because of the drug cartel warefare that is going on and because of the huge poverty in the country as well. The same goes for latin american countries. If we want the United States to keep its motto as "The land of second chances", then we need to support illegal immigration and stop separating families. If we start deporting illegal immigrants just because they entered the United States illegaly, then we are separating families and our motto would be "The land of seperation". For all of you political folks that hate illegal immigration, think twice again. Think about it. What if we do not have illegal immigrants in our country? What would happen to the economy? What would happen to our fruits and vegetables? What would happen to our services if there weren't enough taxpayers? Illegal immigrants are in here for a reason and they are here for the American Dream. Stop the racism and stop the deportation. Illegal immigrants are people like us. They are regular people who are seeking opportunities everyday. Deport the illegal immigrants that are involved in crimes and drugs not the ones that are here illegally and searching for economic opportunity and etc. Deport the ones that cause trouble not the innocent ones.
    The American Dream is dead. It was killed by illegal aliens from Mexico. Now you want our help? Not bloody dam likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickrolld300 View Post
    Mexico is a corrupt country because of the drug cartel warefare that is going on and because of the huge poverty in the country as well. The same goes for latin american countries. If we want the United States to keep its motto as "The land of second chances"...
    How do we know that all these immigrants will not bring all their crime and poverty problems with them into the USA? Because this appears to be what is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickrolld300 View Post
    As a new member to this forum, I would like to talk about illegal immigration. As a descendent from Hispanic culture, I believe that illegal immigrants in this country should not be deported because they help pay taxes, they are a form of cheap labor, they do jobs that other americans do not want to do at a low wage and for no benefits, and they help stimulate the economy because they consume and spend like any other american. I need to remind you that the United States was founded by immigrants. Back in history, the immigrants from Europe and from all over the world landed on Ellis Island in New York. They made this country prosperous throughout their hard work and talent. They escaped their country because there were no economic opportunities or simply because they were going to get killed by their own government. The United States of America is the land of second chances. If people from Latin America and Mexico migrate and enter the United States illegaly just be prosperous as we are, then why not give them a second chance? Do I have to remind you that illegal immigrants work as twice as hard to serve our fresh vegetables and fruits in our plates. They take these jobs because they are low-paid and they are better salaries than the ones they recieve in Mexico or any other latin country. If you look into Mexico, the drug cartels are taking over and killing innocent people because they want more respect. Drug Cartels are controlling Mexico. Mexico is a corrupt country because of the drug cartel warefare that is going on and because of the huge poverty in the country as well. The same goes for latin american countries. If we want the United States to keep its motto as "The land of second chances", then we need to support illegal immigration and stop separating families. If we start deporting illegal immigrants just because they entered the United States illegaly, then we are separating families and our motto would be "The land of seperation". For all of you political folks that hate illegal immigration, think twice again. Think about it. What if we do not have illegal immigrants in our country? What would happen to the economy? What would happen to our fruits and vegetables? What would happen to our services if there weren't enough taxpayers? Illegal immigrants are in here for a reason and they are here for the American Dream. Stop the racism and stop the deportation. Illegal immigrants are people like us. They are regular people who are seeking opportunities everyday. Deport the illegal immigrants that are involved in crimes and drugs not the ones that are here illegally and searching for economic opportunity and etc. Deport the ones that cause trouble not the innocent ones.
    How dare you compare illegal immigrants to those who came to this country in the last big wave of the early twentieth century!

    When our families came to this country from Europe, they came the right way, the legal way! They wanted to become Americans, they wanted to learn the language and become part of the culture all the while contributing bits and pieces of their own culture into American society. They did not expect everyone else to cater to them, they did not want to come here and turn this country into what theirs was.

    I see nothing of the sort from Hispanics today. Their first acts in this country are breaking the law, period, end of story. If their first act is the break our laws, how can we expect them follow the rest of the rules here? They may pay taxes, but they also send half of their incomes back to their countries. Does wonders for our economy.

    I reject your position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishman View Post
    How dare you compare illegal immigrants to those who came to this country in the last big wave of the early twentieth century!

    When our families came to this country from Europe, they came the right way, the legal way! They wanted to become Americans, they wanted to learn the language and become part of the culture all the while contributing bits and pieces of their own culture into American society. They did not expect everyone else to cater to them, they did not want to come here and turn this country into what theirs was.

    I see nothing of the sort from Hispanics today. Their first acts in this country are breaking the law, period, end of story. If their first act is the break our laws, how can we expect them follow the rest of the rules here? They may pay taxes, but they also send half of their incomes back to their countries. Does wonders for our economy.

    I reject your position.
    Well. I have the solution

    We just needa build a mote an stock it with alligators then I will call you out two
    vote out these evil whit people who have stolen your land

    And give it back too you
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