9th Circuit Court of Appeals Successfully Petitioned to Re-hear Prop. 8 Ruling

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    As people begin to see the fruition of where the gay cultural usurping of mainstream secular values is going in California, apparently a push-back surge is under way. A recent defeat in the legislature in Idaho, the veto of the gay marraige bill in New Jersey by compassionate but unapologetic Governor Christie may be reflecting a limit of tolerance for promoting something that may not have a place in mainstream values, but instead, a place in a deeper understanding of what is going on. A compassion for those people who identify themselves by their compulsive non-reproductive sexual behaviors, but not a promotion of them into mainstream mores.

    My personal view is that when they began to promote Harvey Milk as their official representative, "hero" and ambassador to children in CA Schools via a mandate there to teach children to equate "gays" [sexual behaviors] with "accomplishments/hero status", the gay community at large screwed up. Big time.

    Harvey Milk via the book The Mayor of Castro Street and the movie "Milk" spun off from that, was documented as having sodomized a vulnerable and drug-addicted 16 year old boy in NY and CA. 17 is/was the age of consent in New York and 18 was/is the age of consent in CA. There is no age of consent for sodomizing someone under the influence of drugs...

    Gays choosing Harvey Milk as their iconic hero set off alarm bells across the nation. And now the fruit of that is that states are saying, "maybe in California, but not here..".

    And now apparently not even in California, at least until gay advocate legal teams can figure out a way to convince the Supreme Court that a certain small select group of sexual behaviors deserve protection under the Constitution, while other behaviors that are similar, do not..
     
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    Lets keep ignoring the constitution and keep a group of citizens as second class citizens, by denying them the 1400 rights that come with marriage.
     
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    Well your way will only work if behaviors become = "race, creed, gender or ethnic origin". And at that, only a few select compulsive sexual behaviors known as "gay" and "lesbian", to the exclusion of all others.

    So unless you're planning on either 1. Applying for federal recognition as a religion [the only protected class regarding behaviors] or 2. Seeking to set a precedent that may turn states' penal and civil codes on their head [American law regulates human behaviors] or 3. Getting an Amendment to the Constitution protecting just gay and lesbian sexual practitioners as "special class", ignoring all other behaviors that also may choose to identify themselves as an organized group based on what they DO, not what they are, you're going to have a rough legal road ahead of you.

    The key here is it understand that just because a group of people have organized to call their behaviors a "race" doesn't mean that the law or society at large will have that same outlook.

    Aren't you worried about gays and lesbians getting a special class distinction and arbitrarily leaving out [discriminating against] other sexual fetish behaviors? Why just "gays" and "lesbians"? Why not others too? For some reason I have yet to find a gay-advocate that worries about this. Odd, that...
     
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    Homosexuality is not a 'behavior'. False premise right off the bat.

    Also straight people are already in a 'special' class, they can marry.
     
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    MArriage itself is not a "right". PLease cite a single rule for marriage that is different for gays than for anyone else...
     
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    It is when the government hands out 1400 rghts with marriage.
     
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    Sadly, it needs to pointed out again that every single man and every single woman in America HAS EXACTLY THE SAME RIGHT TO MARRY.
     
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    Homosexuality is a behavior. Much like being right-handed or left-handed. A gay guy can hump a straight woman if he wants to. A lesbian can let a straight guy hump her if she wants to. That is the "choice" aspect of homosexuality that you queers can't understand. You can "choose" to become what does not come naturally to you...hence the term "behavior".

    By the way, marriage is a privilege, not a right. That is the 'special' class about it. If you disagree, then you must advocate that all men be allowed to join women's gym clubs. Now.
     
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    Once again, please cite a SINGLE RULE for marriage that is different for gays than anyone else. THERE ARE NONE.

    Gay Guevaras do not seek "equal treatment", they already have it. They seek "special priveledge", special EXCEPTIONS to the rules everyone else must follow.

    And , once again, there is NO LEGAL RIGHT, Constitutional or otherwise,to be married, no matter what you pretend.
     
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    According to whom? The church of gay sex or perhaps Harvey Milk?

    Let's consult with the experts about sexual orientation and behavior:

    And the entire agriculture industry that banks on training artificial sexual orientation in all mammal species in order to bring you superior food via the miracle of artificial insemination..

    But I suppose learned-orientations only apply to just pedophiles and the entire rest of mammalian species except gays and lesbians, right?

    And to that, a weird coincidence has been noted by another prestigious health group in the US:

     
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    Outstanding. Perhaps the will of the people wont be left up to a bunch of activist judges who use their own opinion for what is a "legitimate" law for the people to vote on.
     
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    Agreed Tex. The last line of the article I included said it all. Imagine allowing one or two people the power to usurp an entire collection of longstanding social mores of seven million all at their whim and misunderstanding of "gay sex" = "protected class"? Thank goodness this is going to go to the Supreme Court.

    According to whom? The church of gay sex or perhaps Harvey Milk?

    Let's consult with the experts about sexual orientation and behavior:

    And the entire agriculture industry that banks on training artificial sexual orientation in all mammal species in order to bring you superior food via the miracle of artificial insemination..

    But I suppose learned-orientations only apply to just pedophiles and the entire rest of mammalian species except gays and lesbians, right?

    And to that, a weird coincidence has been noted by another prestigious health group in the US:

     
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    Being left handed or right handed is genetics. Fail.

    And as long as the government hands out 1400 rights that come with marriage, then it is a right. And per the 14th amendment, the government cannot deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Let me know hen health clubs start handing out rights :roll:
     
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    PLease cite what is NOT THE SAME in marriage rules for gays, as it is for anyone else. Your complete failure in being able to do so is not lost on aynome reading this.

    Gays seek SPECIAL EXCEPTION to marriage rules, JUST FOR THEM= 14th Amendment violation.
     
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    Easy: Gays cannot marry. Next :bored:

    No heterosexuals allready have special treatment. They can marry.

    There are 1400 rights that come with marriage.

    And as long as the government hands out 1400 rights that come with marriage, then it is a right. And per the 14th amendment, the government cannot deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
     
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    Sure they can. They just can't marry someone of the same gender, which ARE THE SAME RULES FOR EVERYONE.

    People who love their collies, also cannot marry mmebers of the same gender..or the collie.

    SAME RULES FOR EVERYONE.

    Your complete failure to cite a LEGAL DIFFERENCE in marriage rules is duly noted..
     
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    Pedophilia and homosexuality, there are no links , other than sick individuals who try to link them.

    10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked

    Just more freaing mongering from the right on homosexuality.
     
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    I'm a registered democrat, have been all my life, voted that way always, except in very rare cases. I embrace green energy, withdrawing from foreign wars, universal healthcare and union rights for workers, along with a sane and reasonable fiscal policy.

    I am left of center but not so far left that I can turn a blind eye to organized gays across the nation promoting a pedophile like Harvey Milk to young children to emulate as a "gay hero".

    Reasonable people have a threshold of tolerance for the absurd on either end of the political spectrum..
     
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    The "American Psychological Association" is NOT The MAYO CLINIC, or the CDC, (the sources cited by Sil'), by any stretch of the imagination,and your "article is noting but pablum, pure, unsupported SPECULATION and nonsense form a pro-gay source.

    The MAYO CLINIC and the CDC are neither "pro" or "anti" gay; therfore their findings are exponentially more credible.
     
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    The homophoebes really need to stop with this BS argument. They know they homosexuals cannot have a relationship with the opposite sex, yet they continue on this BS mantra. Use a thought process now and then.

    Collies cannot give their legal consent. Next :bored:


    Your complete failure to understand the constitution is duly noted.
     
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    Pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality.

    If you want to fight against Pedophilia, I'll fight with ya.

    But denying consenting adults the 1400 rights that come with marriage based on sexual orientation is just absurd.
     
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    Wrong. Clinical studies by BOTH the esteemed Mayo Clininc as well as the Center for Disease Control (AND MANY OTHERS) show otherwise.

    Sorry...
     
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    I didnt know Silhouette was part of the MAYO CLINIC and the CDC. :roll:

    Do try and keep up mmmkay?
     
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    Read the links he cited ... "mmmkay"?

    From the Mayo CLinic and CDC..."mmmkay"?

    Still waiting for the rules for marriage that apply to gays and no one else..."mmmkay"?

    We won't hold our breath waiting for your next madeup nonsense answer..."mmmkay"?

    Keep up? You're not even on the track...
     
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    Homosexuality and Pedophilia: The False Link

    You and the rest of the Catholic Mafia are being to bore the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of me with your silliness agaits gays.
     
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