Are The 1%-ers Mentally Retarded?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Silhouette, Feb 29, 2012.

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Is a French-style revolution inevitable?

  1. No, human systems aren't that predictable.

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  2. Yes, a tipping point is always reached with gross inequities.

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  3. What's the French Revolution?

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  1. Silhouette

    Silhouette New Member

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    Human political systems this far out of balance always right themselves. The aristocracy always becomes blinded by their own hubris. It's a matter of experiential atrophy. The rich after several generations remind one of Mitt Romney. They cannot conceive of anyone being poor enough to consider a $10,000 gentleman's bet over trivia as audacious. "What's the big deal? It's only 10k?" 10K is sometimes all a single mom and child have to live off of each year. There are scores and scores of single parents struggling with kids in the US alone.

    Mitt Romney and his ilk, just as Louis XVI & his queen, cannot wrap their head around their own infuriating disdain for poverty. That's why the phrase "let them eat cake" brought down France. The actual words were a little different but the importance of the saying is this: when confronted with the poor's misery over the price of flour and bread, the phrase "well why don't they just eat cake instead?" demonstrated how deaf the ears of the aristocracy were towards the poor's plight. The poor at that point realized, en masse, that not only would the rich not hear their laments, but that the rich were incapable of understanding their laments. There was a disability on behalf of the rich to perceive reality as it existed.

    So, long story short, the working and poor classes helped the rich "get real".. Whenever a society gets to the point where its wealthiest members cross that threshold into inherited wealth [vs earned wealth], their aristocrats lose touch with the value of labor and hence the value of the laborers themselves as the very props and foundation of the palaces in which they live so affluently. At this point the laborers remind them of their value. That's just how it works with homo sapiens.
     
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    I agree. And now the disconnect between reality and perception has spread through television to the working class itself. Even we think we should just eat cake and can't figure out why we don't.
     
  3. Silhouette

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    The only remedy for a revolution not happening, just before the tipping point, is for the aristocracy to realize the import of and reinvestment in their foundation.

    Don't hold your breath though. This is an election year and the GOP has its eyes set on ruining what's left of the economy so we can have another installment of Cheney/Bush. Don't get me wrong, the aristocracty isn't limited to the GOP, it's just that they seem to have the most hubris and disability to see where the source of their wealth comes from: the labor of the poor..
     
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    It was the OWS hippies that took a dump on the police car.
     
  5. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Whatever the question... class warfare isn't the answer.

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  6. Daybreaker

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    If you really believe that, why are you on the side that wages war against the poor?
     
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    It was the suits that took a dump on the economy.
     
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    I'll give a serious answer to a trolling thread.

    No, the 1% are not retarded.

    What they can't understand is how it is possible for there to be millions of poor Americans when the federal and state govt. between them spend literally TRILLIONS each year on a huge array of social programs.

    For what we pay for the "poor" then there should be no reason people are still poor.

    And while I'm sympathetic to the "poor" I look around and don't see very many who have "worked hard and played by the rules"
     
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    the labor of the poor?? Obviously you don't know what union members get paid. You can thank them in part for bancrupting the auto industry.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You're the Obama-supporter, not me.

    Why aren't you outraged? Who do you think this hurts the most... rich folks?

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    There's a major difference between 'talking' and actually caring about the poor's plight. Obviously, this thread is full of talkers.
     
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    Comparing the 1% to the 18th century French aristocracy is a bit ridiculous. The peasants who revolted against the nobles were severely lacking in basic human and political rights. The OWS by its very nature, proves just how different that is to the French revolution.
     
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    How exactly are the rich waging war on the poor? I don't think you libs will ever realize that its our centralized government along with a willing and indolent group of losers who are responsible for any and all perceived injustices that plague the poor and indigent. If these losers in life had any sense of self worth and decency, then they would look to those rich and or successful in admiration and respect for their ability and drive in making it in this doggy dog world. :bounce:

    No wonder you liberals are atheists...you all would have a difficult time accepting or living under an all-powerful GOD. In other words, you libs belittle the rich just like you belittle GOD and Christianity. It just kills you libs that everyone on earth isn't living in this utopian social order where everyone is equal and there is no incentive to strive to be the best you can be. PATHETIC LOSERS! :nana:
     
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    The 1%ers are outlaw bikers... again the left steals a moniker.

    The AMA wrote an article in their magazine, shortly after this stating, “99% of all of their members are law-abiding citizens and only 1% are “outlaw””. This then, began what is today known as Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs and one percenters. Clubs that were not sanctioned by the AMA and non-members of the AMA were banned from attending AMA events.

    http://www.rcvsmc.net/id13.html
     
  14. Silhouette

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    The comparisons aren't ridiculous at all.

    French poor were becoming unemployed by droves, the aristocracy was involved in expensive foreign wars, bringing their economy to the breaking point. Exacerbating that was the wealthiest classes continually stonewalling taxation of themselves, preferring instead to shoulder the ever-growing burden on the backs of the working poor..what little were left after job losses..

    You could substitute the previous paragraph for a headline in MSM today. Word for word.

    Don't think homo sapiens discriminates based on nationality and Era. It doesn't. The monkey mind behaves in a very predictable way.

    People by and large don't want handouts. They want jobs, they want opportunity to excell via the creation and labor of their own hands. There is no self-esteem in getting handouts. The greatest "high" of an individual comes from kudos and rewards received from his own efforts. Setting up a system that robs people of opportunity, and then coming back later to scorn them for "being on the dole" is a recipe for "let them eat cake"-type disaster. [See the French Revolution].

    You look around and don't see many who have played by the rules because you have removed opportunity by shipping jobs to China to improve your bottom line so you can afford a few more vacation homes, servants and yachts. Try reinvesting in the country that made you rich. Then you might look around and see people hard at work making this country what it once was: great.

    There should be a rich class but that rich class should not be suffering from reality-atrophy. Every rich person should know the value of labor by having done labor himself, hard labor. If a rich child was raised spoiled and makes it to his 40s with manicured and smooth hands, and if he and his ilk rise to power, watch out...you can just smell the "cake" baking in the oven at that point..
     
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    The 1%ers aren't NEARLY as retarded as this poll and the OWS retards.

    Does ANYONE else wonder when it became a bad thing to succeed in this great Nation of ours and the "good" guys are a bunch of out of work bums doing such wonderful things as crapping on cars, flags, and anything else they can get their butts on, raping women, murder, assault, harassment, and blatant racism? Seriously. I am baffled. I am striving as hard as I can to succeed, all the while looking back at the jokers who want to take it from me in the name of "equality" where those who don't work live off the backs of those who do.

    So go ahead and preach your hatred and your threats. How far has it gotten you so far? All I see is a bunch of '***** (OWS for those who are slow) working themselves up into a fit of righteous indignation to justify the violence they so desperately wish to carry out in the name of "revolution".
     
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    Instead of making a joke about that incident, a sane person would instead notice the level of desperation beginning to become apparent in the disenfranchised.

    If I was rich, I would notice that first before laughing at it. But then again I wasn't raised spoiled, stupid and mentally retarded.
     
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    Please xplain who wages war against the poor.
     
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    CEOs who ship jobs to China so they can pay less wages, not have to provide healthcare [they like universal care/socialism on one level apparently] improve personal profits and huge/immense/obscene/astronomically-disproportionate-to achievement yearly bonuses for corporate officers.

    And the 1% who bribe...er...I mean lobby Congress to keep tax breaks for the nation's wealthiest people during this critical economic decline, while the middle class disappears and the ranks of the poor grow and grow..

    That was an easy question.

    Next?
     
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    As a Leftwing Bulldog, Skulls dog, Grumpydog, does not see why the OWS are continuing their "homelessness" while he, the true Proletariat, continues on, struggling to provide for himself., not even seeking aid from several potential Government handout facillities, including the VA.

    So I have to ask, how is it that OWS is doing anything productive? Who is funding them, and what is the real agenda? While I drive by, doing my job, which pays me poorly, they are being fed, clothed, and housed and have more money in their pockets than I do.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You think the rich don't get taxed? :lol: The top 1% pays for around 40% of the taxes in this country while the "poor" pay nothing OR get more money back than they put in.

    So many idiots out there try to pretend the rich don't pay taxes or pay less than others. Some rich people pay a lower tax RATE, not less taxes, and that is because their income comes primarily from investments and not income from a job. The more investments you have vs. job income, the lower tax rate you are going to pay.

    Not according to the OWS crowd. Of course, the OWS crowd doesn't speak for nearly everyone. Just the dregs. People who work for a living generally do so because they don't want handouts.

    What they want is the entitlement to the best jobs without having to work their way up. I've met plenty of OWS nuts who demand high paying, "fun" jobs that they are neither qualified for nor have the aptitude for given my discussions with them.

    Yet you will see MANY lining up around the block with their hands out and demanding more and more instead of being bothered to go out and look for a job. I know the OWS tries to pretend these people don't exist, but I personally know far more of them than I care to. NONE of them have any problem at all with self esteem issues.

    Yet so many are not willing to work to get those same rewards. And why should they when everyone around them is preaching that the rich owe them what they worked for?

    So how does the system rob people of opportunity? The opportunities are there, but it involves hard work. The OWS people want everything handed to them without them having to put in the work. This sense of entitlement is wrong.

    Who is you? I doubt many people here are 1%ers. So why were jobs shipped to China? So you can have your 600 dollar iPad instead of your $1200 iPad. It isn't to improve the bottom line so much as it is to stay competitive. The demand for cheap goods vs. paying for "made in the USA" while unions drive companies overseas to be able to afford labor is where you should be looking. Then again, that would mean one has to take an honest look at what is going on instead of playing the blame game and accusing those who have done well.

    America is still great. Some people are trying as hard as they can to tear it down.

    And who gets to determine that reality? YOU? So far your post has shown a serious case of "reality-atrophy".

    Most have. Your ASSumption that rich people don't work hard is nothing but ignorance and stereotyping hate speech.

    Ah, more preaching of violence. Here's another scenario for you. A child raised in a failed educational system because there is no more family unit is taught from day one everyone is equal, that competition is bad, that wrong is "relative", that rich is bad and that every child "deserves" a life handed to him on a silver platter. What do you get? A whole bunch of people with no grasp on reality and a big sense of entitlement demanding to know where his or her life is that they deserve for no more reason than existing. And yeah. You can see in the OWS movement just what you get from that kind of upbringing. A bunch of people with no clue, no direction, and a whole lot of anger towards anyone who has done better than them.

    How does that "cake" sound?
     
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    There are always people behind the scenes pulling the strings of the gullible and witless.

    Kudos to you for continuing to work despite the lure of easy government money. It may not be much, but there is no question where the money came from and that it is deserved. As for the VA, I have to disagree with you there. You served this country and one of the things you EARN from doing that is what the VA can do for you. That isn't welfare. That isn't a handout. That is yours by right just as much as your paycheck.

    As for the OWS, it might not be productive, but they ARE actively trying to drain the cities they occupy dry of vital resources that.... ready for this? the poor need more than the rich. There are lots of ways to have your voice heard. Making an ass out of yourself isn't a very good way of getting it done.
     
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    You must have a really short memory. Do you not remember Bush gas prices?

    Newsflash: Gas prices always trend upward. So do most other prices. It's called inflation.
     
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    Even if the GOP does win, there is no guarantee that there will be much economy left by the time they're in power. Right now the people in power look on Greece as an example, not a cautionary tale.
     
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    If we raised taxes on those who can afford them right now, and retooled laws that make it "easy and fun" to ship jobs overseas, rolled back complete tax exemption loopholes for BigOil, who stole even more jobs in 2010 from the Gulf fishing fleet, we would be taking steps towards fiscal sanity.

    But because those getting all the money, all the perks and all the breaks are in charge of the Legislature in this country, they will continue their policy of leading all of us lemmings right off the cliff. They think they will be exempt from plummeting but the surge of the crowd will draw them right off the edge too.

    You can't keep taking a pick-axe to your foundation without your house of cards eventually collapsing..
     

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