I will now prove atheists are illogical!

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  1. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Atheists believe that the big bang theory "created" everything. Yet, they do not believe in a "creator". Created=Creation=Creator. Therefore, logically...they cannot believe in the big bang theory.
     
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    Take a break and read what you call , Big Bang .
    Then you will see that your very premiss needs restating

    However , even if you keep it very simple , very many are quite happy to imagine that there is something we can usefully refer to as God as a term of communication convenience .
    What concerns people like myself is the implied nature of this first cause . And many --- me included -- do not like him .And like him less if he hints that he has time for us ( Eff Off is our polite response)
    It's along the lines of having a Father but loathing him for good reason .
     
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    Prof_Sarcastic New Member

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    MOST do, yes.

    I guess you have never seen a "figure of speech" before. I'm sure you can look it up on wikipedia.
     
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    Bishadi Banned

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    Great point.

    Now if both, 'creation' and 'big bang' are incorrect analogies, what then?
     
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    Atheists do not believe that the Big Bang created everything. The Big Bang only describes the expansion of the universe from the Singularity. What came before it we currently do not know.
     
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    An unstable singularity expanding does not require a creator.

    Fail.
     
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    Not all atheists believe in the "Big Bang Theory".

    Even those who believe in the BBT may not believe that it "created" everything.

    Therefore, since you obviously conceived this thread before posting it, you failed before you hit that "New Thread" button.
     
  8. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Who said both were incorrect? One of them has to be correct. It's the rule of two.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    False Dichotomy logical fallacy.
     
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    I asked my astronomy teacher in class, in front of a 100 students to prove to me that the big bang theory was accurate and true. He said, it was just a theory he had no answer. He looked like an idiot that day. We were discussing the expansion and of the universe and clusters of galaxies that day.
     
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    but YOU created that post!!!!!!!!!!!!

    and that is sharing a big bang

    With a Big Bang, i bet the name todd could be confused with 'god', to the girls.
     
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    You want to prove a theory with another theory Wolverine? Are you totally off your rocks?

    Scientists have tried to create a singularity in a lab and it has never worked and they are using something to create it. Energy, mass, electicity, whatever. They cannot recreate a black hole. So you prove to me that a singularity is possible without a creator, then get back to me Ok? Because science has not supported it. it's all a bunch of idiotic stupid irrational theories.
     
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    You have failed to understand the premise todd. Science claims we don't need a creator, yet they cannot produce or create anything out of dark matter or any singularity on any space or dimension. I think we all know who have failed here? the atheists.
     
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    Nice story, you should tell that again sometime when it's relevant. "Creation" is a figure of speech in this context. I personally am not sure whether anything came into existence during the big bang, and even if it did, if I ever used a word like 'creation' in that context it would just be shorthand for 'came into existence', its a figure of speech. That's my point which you ignored with this irrelevant babble about your astronomy class.
     
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    Science doesn't deal in truths. "Just a theory" is a false statement because theories are as good as it gets with science.
     
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    how do you think the medical field works?

    how do you think any science works?

    people learn, idiots 'dont'


    that dont mean 'god' did it.

    heck the eye of a hurricane shares the 'black hole.



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5725Etc4bI&feature=related"]Hurricane Luis eye from space - YouTube[/ame]


    flush your toilet, and create one, yourself.
    that's how much you appreciate of 'god' (nature itself)


    no need to; your lost

    and them theories are how you are articulating with people across the world. (computer/internet)

    Not even jesus could do that.

    Heck, with knowledge you can now walk on water, anytime you want.

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    last time I checked, the rule of two is that there can only be two sith lords at a time.....A master and an apprentice.
     
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    There is a singularity at the center of the galaxy.

    What is your point? Oh, that because physicists have built a powerful machine (that does not generate the same force of cosmic rays colliding with the atmospheres particles) that it the notion of singularities must be false?

    God of the gaps, fallacy.
     
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    The Big Bang theory is a theory because it's yet to be proven, but evidence shows that it's a likely scenario......There has not been solid proof of a singlelarity found yet, but evidence does point in that direction.

    It is know that there is a super-massive black hole at the center of all spiral galaxies, however.
     
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    Source? (10 char)

    BTW, the Singularity was NOT a Black Hole.

    For someone who claims to have taken "all the science classes" you didn't seem to have learned a lot.
     
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    What is this rule of two? I've never heard of it before. Is it a thing?
     
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    Theories are the highest level of proof available in science.

    Are you saying that Germ Theory of Disease isn't correct because "It's just a theory"?
     
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    Every construct of science is theory. There is not a level higher than theory in science.
     
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    All of you atheists are full of it. Including the idiot guy and the girl in the video. Any of you come to me and show me any evidence that a singularity can be created without nothing...without air (Hurricaine), without light, without a creator. If any of you can create something out of nothing or can prove that...? in the meantime your theories and foolish science means nothing to the millions of christians. Your faith in science and books blinds you to the truth of life.

    I dare any of you (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s, to singularity make a particle appear out of nothing. Then we talk. Good night.
     
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    What's your argument here? Are you saying that because I personally can't do something, then it cannot ever happen in nature? That makes no sense.
     
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