Unarmed Kid killed (part 2)

Continuation of thread in progress...

 

Since it was Zimmerman who approached the kid then the only person capable of acting in self defense was the kid.

 

What happened to the dudes two pit bulls?

 

I'm betting Zimmerman tried to stop the kid from walking and the kid defended himself but a civilian that was doing nothing but harassing the kid.

Are people so desperate to claim that if the kid didn't stop for Zimmerman that it was the kid who was the aggressor?

This has not caught wildfire media yet but it will.....I just pray Obushama stays the hell out of it.

 

Hell... I think Obama should call and apologize!

 

Never mind the fact that the police report says that Zimmerman had a wet back with grass on it like he had been thrown to the ground, a bloody nose and a wound on the back of his head, and that a cop had overheard Zimmerman say that he had called out for help repeatedly while he was being treated by the paramedics? Quit trying to make this Trayvon hoodlum out to be a victim when he was clearly a perpetrator. Only a liberal would label an attacker as a victim simply because he was black.

 

"Civilian"? Ever hear of the concept of a citizen's arrest?

 

You truly show your racist colors in this post. Here is a black kid on his way back home to his father's house and he is confronted by a racist white man an altercation ensues and you claim that the kid jumped this cat which every indication we have seen shows that Zimmerman was the aggessor and you say he was justified in killing a kid with Ice Tea and a pack of Skittles. This might as well be 1952 instead of 2012.

 

The kid would have to be committing a crime, what crime was he committing?

 

Zimmerman was the aggressor? Zimmerman was attacked by this black 17 year old FOOTBALL PLAYER. And you're crying just because all this tackler had was a pack of Skittles and some iced tea in his pocket. Come back when you have a real argument, Farrakhan.

 

I don't know. You don't know. The police report does, though. The police report says that Zimmerman was attacked by this boy. Got relevant argument?

 

Did the kid drag him out of his car?

Please give us the part of the police report that supports this (*)(*)(*)(*).

Un (*)(*)(*)(*)ing believable. This kid went to the store and was walking back home and ended up dead and you are telling us its his fault. Since when does a white man have the authority to stop a black person minding their own (*)(*)(*)(*) business.

 

So how do you know this kid attacked Zimmerman, you are basically assuming because the kid is black and Zimmerman is white that the black kid had to be the aggressor. Where does the police report say that it has not even been released yet.

 

That is not true.

Unless Zimmerman iniated an attack then he was still capable of acting in self defense.

Being the person that iniate something does not allow the person approached to use violence (if that happened).

 

Last I checked the kid didn't call in claiming that Zimmerman looked suspicious, the young man wasn't following Zimmerman, the 911 dispatcher didn't tell the kid to stay on the sidewalk. This whole confrontation was initiated by Zimmerman, just the simple fact that he ignored the police should put his ass in jail during this investigation.

 

You people are ?WAAAYYY over doing the part about the 17 year old (not really a kid) being unarmed.

A person doesn't have to have a weapon of any kind to be a danger to a person who is armed.

Remember, the police have the standard that

"a police officer may use lethal force against an UNARMED person who approaches to within 8 yards (24 feet) if they reasonably believe the person is showing hostile intent".

The man should not have confronted the 17 year old. But even when he did, he did not forfeit his right to self defense.

 

Zimmerman is at fault for everything that transpired when he began to follow the kid for being black. I am sorry, but Zimmerman deserves a long prison sentence and should be in jail now awaiting trial. The kid had not committed a felony so could not be detained by Zimmerman, therefore, Zimmerman is solely at fault for everything that transpired.

It is horrible what happened, but those who think that blacks commit crime by walking, should wake up and smell there own (*)(*)(*)(*)!

 

Here ya go...

How much more proof do you need, Brutha?

***MOD EDIT - flamebait deleted***

 

maybe he instigated the confrontation, he didn't think the boy was the son of a rich black parent and insulted him by asking what his business was there and it led to fisticuffs

the kid was unarmed so even then it was not a justifed shooting

 

http://www.sugarlandtx.gov/police/services/programs/neighborhood_watch.asp

The above link seems to be pretty typical of Neighborhood Watch rules. I couldn't find one Neighborhood Watch reference that suggested confronting a suspect directly; the closest I could find was some Detroit suburb that had an on-call security company as first responders instead of the cops.

So Zimmerman confronted Martin with no real authority. He was a white guy with a gun harassing a black teenager, so even if Martin went ballistic and started punching Zimmerman I would argue Zimmerman is at least guilty of manslaughter (Zimmerman had no authority for his actions so the consequences are his responsibility). If someone has alternative legal on this, please post.

 

Actually that was not the police report, that is what was reported.

The only clear indication here is your obvious racism towards black folks.

 

Oh, so now we're finally using the argument that you don't know what actually happened as opposed to what was actually in the police report? Brutha, you just be walking yourself around in circles, dog.

 

Once again, the other person doesn't have to be armed for you to use lethal force in self defense.

And again, a person instigating a confrontation does NOT end their right to self defense.

 

There is no police report, yet. You are assuming because this kid is black that he had to be the one that started the confrontation which clearly shows your racism.

Hmmmm, thats what it is or do I see this for exactly what it is.

 

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."