Food Stamp Fraud as a Business Model: USDA’s Struggle to Police Store Owners

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holders DOJ is busy suing states attempting to stop illegal immigration AND voter ID laws, while the wolves are robbing the Food Stamp program and the taxpayers blind. If the USDA's enforcement arm is incapable of enforcing the law then Holder should step in with the FBI. This is what Holder should be doing, not suing states attempting to fix the Federal Government failures. But, the Democrats tell us we need more taxes because they don't have enough revenue while our tax dollars just walk out the door?

    Solyndra virtually ignored by the DOJ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h_ncMZj7MBo

    ...and the fast and furious investigation marginalized even it though is developing that a second Federal Agent is dead due to fast and furious guns.

    How long will Obama allow Holder continue with this apparently abject mismanagement at the DOJ? Just the fact that it continues without Obama firing Holder and appointing a new AG who will get to the bottom of real crimes, to me it indicates one of two things. 1) Obama is totally stupid and oblivious to anything but getting re-elected. 2) Why should Obama fire Holder when he's doing what the administration wants.

    Obama needs to fire Holder and appoint a new AG who will get to the bottom of what's happening. Regarding the USDA Food Stamp fraud and the hundreds of deaths due to Operation Fast and Furious including apparently now 2 U.S. Law Enforcement agents. If he won't do that, then we must fire him in November.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, geez, compared to regular theft by the military industrial complex, food stamps are chicken feed!

    Can't the Right Wing EVER advocate going after the BIG thieves?
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must be new here? I have advocated going after ALL waste, fraud and abuse in ALL government agencies. Since there is no incentive to do that then we the people must insist on a balanced budget amendment. Once the taxpayers are taken out of the equation as an unlimited source of money, we can then begin to evaluate each agency for waste, fraud and abuse. Make managers accountable for their departments budget. If they allow waste, fraud and abuse to take place, they are summarily fired, their contributions to their pension plans returned and the pensions and benefits canceled.

    The biggest problem with kind of carp going on is so much of the money they get is wasted, they simply don't have enough to do the job it was meant to do like at the USDA in the OP. As long as they continually have access to more, nothing will ever change but what you and I pay in taxes.
     
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    Assuming you have EVER started any threads on waste at the Department of Defense or the trillions in goodies going to Big Business, how many threads PER MONTH is that, vs how many threads PER DAY are started on "ONE person using their food stamps card when they won the Lotto", or like this thread about somebody getting a beer on their food stamps?
     
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    There is tons of waste on all levels of government however the welfare system creates unique issues that "regular" fraud does not - it creates issues of entitlement and selfishness that effect a large range of people on government assistance - this turns around and creates more dependence which leads eventually leads to more fraud once benefits are reduced or removed.

    I have read reports that estimate entitlement fraud nearing $100 billion per year while military fraud hits around $40 billion a year - You have to realize that military fraud and corruption is relatively centralized around bureaucrats while entitlement fraud is far reaching into every state, county, city, and town in this country.

    We could be smarter about this instead of being partisanship fools and pointing the finger at each other saying R fraud is worse the D fraud. What we should be saying is we need to eliminate fraud at all levels and punish those people committing the fraud to the FULLEST extent of the law.

    If you commit entitlement fraud you are cut off completely and are ineligible for any future assistance - this includes unemployment benefits, health care, ect.
    If you commit military fraud you should be stripped of your of your positions and be ineligible to do any future business with the government. If you are a uniformed officer you should be court marshaled.

    Until we stand together and demand change in all levels the fraud will prevail while we squabble like children.


    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fnews/2746708/posts
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How nonsensical.

    And giving a few hundred bucks per month to a poor person is somehow "worse" than giving BILLIONS to WEALTHY PEOPLE?

    I don't think so.

    :lol:

    What claptrap! Let's ignore the figure for "entitlement fraud" of someone getting a beer on their food stamps, and just look at military fraud!

    We have SINGLE military programs that have wasted 40 BILLION all their OWN! Remember the Bradley? "Star Wars"? Iraq and its missing 10s of BILLIONS in CASH? Iraq in general? Sheesh.

    Yeah, but somehow we always skipt eh fraud involving REAL MONEY, and concentrate on people getting a few hundred bucks per month. Pure stupidity.

    This actually is true.
    As you so poignantly state, this SHOULD be true, but is NOT!

    That is my POINT! You can get cutoff from welfare or other assistance by doing drugs, getting assistance too long, or any fraud and your OUT! Defense contractors just get a bigger job to fix what they didn't accomplish!

    EVERY HOUR there is a thread on this site or a Republican politician pointing out how somebody is getting a month's food stamps and buying beer, or shrimp, or some other complaint from the Right, and complaining its "ruining the country and is creating dependency blah blah blah" while flatly ignoring HUNDRED'S of billions to huge farm corporations to price fix or NOT grow food or to GROW CORN or to provide water to the troops but deliver sewage or to make weapons systems that NEVER WORK!

    Its ridiculous. The Right Wing agenda is creating hate towards the powerless to distract the public from the massive ripoff by the Wealthiest!
     
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    Dave you need to re-read the OP then I'll discuss it with you when you actually know what's in it.
     
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    Have you posted any article about fraud in the DOD from a reliable news source?
     

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