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    Muslim Brotherhood plot against Gulf: Dubai police chief
    Dubai's police chief says the Muslim Brotherhood group are intriguing to take over the state members of the Gulf Cooperation Council
    AFP , Sunday 25 Mar 2012
    The Muslim Brotherhood, the main Islamist force that emerged after the Arab Spring, is plotting to take over Gulf states, Dubai's police chief said in remarks reported on Sunday.

    Lieutenant General Dahi Khalfan said he had his reasons to claim that the "Brotherhood was plotting to change the regimes in the Gulf," in an interview published in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Qabas.

    "My sources say the next step is to make Gulf governments (their ruling families) figurehead bodies only without actual ruling. The start will be in Kuwait in 2013 and in other Gulf states in 2016," he said.

    Khalfan has been involved in a tit-for-tat controversy with the Brotherhood after he threatened earlier this month to arrest cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a leading Brotherhood figure, for criticising the United Arab Emirates for deporting Syrian protesters.

    The police chief said he based his information on "leaks" from Western intelligence agencies and said this "had been known to us."

    "If these leaks from Western intelligence were to be correct, by 2016 all Gulf rulers" will be just figureheads with no actual power, Khalfan said. "I am warning Gulf states about these groups."

    All of the six oil-rich Arab states in the Gulf have been governed for centuries by ruling families that dominate almost every aspect of life and who have the final say on almost everything.

    These states -- Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE -- together sit on more than 40 percent of the world's proven oil reserves and around a fifth of its natural gas.

    Khalfan said the alleged plot will begin in Kuwait because "it is ready more than any other Gulf state... this is a strategy."

    Sunni Islamists made an impressive show in a February 2 snap election in Kuwait, securing more than 20 seats in the 50-member parliament.
    http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCont...i-police-.aspx

    Hmmmmm.......

    Now this is tying in with Omar Suleimans 'private' conversation with Gaddaffi in Egypt that Libya recently released from the 'intelligence' found after the fall of Gaddaffi.

    Very interesting indeed.

    A very intriguing mystery this is turning out to be.
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    "My sources say the next step is to make Gulf governments (their ruling families) figurehead bodies only without actual ruling.
    Ah, like in the UK ? Very sensible. Oliver Cromwell would have liked the Mos.Bros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCont...i-police-.aspx

    Hmmmmm.......

    Now this is tying in with Omar Suleimans 'private' conversation with Gaddaffi in Egypt that Libya recently released from the 'intelligence' found after the fall of Gaddaffi.

    Very interesting indeed.

    A very intriguing mystery this is turning out to be.
    Sounds like malarkey to me.

    The UAE did the right thing expelling the Syrian protesters.

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    Islamists have majority on Constitutional panel...

    Egypt's Islamists tighten their grip on power
    25 Mar.`12 (AP) — Egypt's newly empowered Islamists have tightened their grip, giving themselves a majority on a 100-member panel tasked with drafting a constitution that will define the shape of the government in the post-Hosni Mubarak era.
    Led by the Muslim Brotherhood to victory in parliamentary elections, fundamentalists now have their eyes set on the next prize: the presidency. The new constitution will decide whether Islam will gain even more strength in Egypt, abandoning decades of secular traditions that made the nation a top U.S. ally and a bulwark against extremism. The charter also will determine whether the decades-old system of a powerful president will be maintained, or instead, an empowered parliament under Islamist domination will set the tone. "We don't want another pharaoh," said Yasser Burhami, a leader of the ultraconservative Salafi movement whose followers have won 25 percent of parliament's seats. "We want a political system that is half parliamentary and half presidential."

    A list of names published Sunday by the country's official news agency showed that the panel will have nearly 60 Islamists, including 37 legislators selected the day before by parliament's two chambers. The second half of the panel comprises public figures, also selected by members of parliament. The strong Islamist showing follows their victory in parliamentary elections — a seismic shift for groups that were heavily repressed under Mubarak but have used the vast organizational skills gained over years of working underground to rise to the upper political echelons.

    It also reinforced fears by secular and liberal Egyptians that the dominant parliamentary faction would pack the panel with supporters and ignore concerns of other groups, including the youth activists who spearheaded last year's uprising against Mubarak's authoritarian regime. "The Brotherhood's monopoly on setting the criteria for selecting the constitutional assembly leaves us skeptical of whatever promises they make," prominent rights activist Hafez Abu Saedah wrote on his Twitter account.

    Just a handful of Christians and women were selected for the panel, reflecting the disproportionately low representation in parliament of both groups. There also were only a few names from the revolutionary movement that ousted the leader. One significant exception, however, was Ahmed Hararah, a young dentist who lost sight in one eye during the uprising and later lost his second eye in clashes that broke out between security forces and protesters calling for a faster transition to civilian rule in Cairo. He has become a symbol of the revolutionaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Ah, like in the UK ? Very sensible. Oliver Cromwell would have liked the Mos.Bros.
    If the U.K. replaced a monarchy with a theocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    Sounds like malarkey to me.

    The UAE did the right thing expelling the Syrian protesters.
    Is your news talking of the tape of Gaddaffi and Suleiman talking Margot?

    I'll write some things from it for the ones who don't speak Arabic.

    (From conversation it was taped in Egypt before revolution in Egypt. Maybe by sound of it one year before Egypts revolution.
    Suleiman is asking Gaddaffi to extend his visit to stay longer to discuss things. Stay for 10 days because Egyptians like Gaddaffi. (Gaddaffis Arabi dialect is very bad and some of it is hard to understand.)

    Just so you know
    Omar Suleiman was the chief intelligence officer who practically lived in US and Israel so would know what is going on. Moved in all the right circles Internationally. Was a player in the US rendition programme. Was known as Sheikh al Torture and it was said few months back that Saudi Prince Nayaf had enlisted him into Saudi intelligence now he is unemployed in Egypt. He was the man who Egyptians rejected as the VP during revolution as being traitor and the US CIA man in Cairo.


    A few things from it:


    Suleiman is saying Saudi is about to explode. He talks of wahabi influence. He talks of giving people democracy. Of different countries needing democracy but not every country should follow US kind of democracy.

    He talks about US policy of breaking up strong Arab nations ties to keep them weak. Create frictions.

    Of the congressmen (doesn't name who) and CIA who are giving Gaddaffi the information that Saudi and Egypt are plotting against him.

    Gaddaffi says yes that was true and the USA was giving him that information.

    Suleiman says no one should trust the USA and that each country should discuss things face to face with each other and not through USA so they know what is true and what is not. He talks of the MB ability to get funds easily because the people are simple and trusting. Egypt does not have culture of elections.

    The USA is funding opposition newspapers and parties and funding channels. The US have been funding Ayman Noor one of the main opposition names and involving Coptic christians in this funding and following.
    US Supporting Sa'ad El Din Ibrahim the exile who came back and signed support for Gamal Mubarak campaign in public and to talk badly about Egypt. In short US was supporting Gamal Mubarak. (well that was known anyway)

    Gaddaffi asks Suleiman why then is Egypt friends with USA and he replies they will never be friends or are friends of USA. Egypt is just avoiding clashes. US are threatening to sanction Egypt like Syria. He talks of USA using word democracy to destabilize Arabs. He talks of Darfur and saying US gave the weapons in Darfur. They want conflict. Conflict between Syria and Lebanon between Coptic Chrsitians and Muslims. He calls Egypt the 'BIg Prize'.

    Suleiman says confrontation between USA and Egypt is coming but they are delaying it and US only has it's own interests first and last. They dont care about anything else. Suleiman said there was no real partnership between USA and Egypt.
    US divided Sudan and next is to divide Egypt the real prize.
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Forgot to add

    Suleiman said that USA was financing Muslim Brotherhood. He said that they wanted a strong opposition to Mubarak. They want to destabilize Egypt according to him.

    That was BEFORE revolution.
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    Is your news talking of the tape of Gaddaffi and Suleiman talking Margot?

    I'll write some things from it for the ones who don't speak Arabic.

    (From conversation it was taped in Egypt before revolution in Egypt. Maybe by sound of it one year before Egypts revolution.
    Suleiman is asking Gaddaffi to extend his visit to stay longer to discuss things. Stay for 10 days because Egyptians like Gaddaffi. (Gaddaffis Arabi dialect is very bad and some of it is hard to understand.)

    Just so you know
    Omar Suleiman was the chief intelligence officer who practically lived in US and Israel so would know what is going on. Moved in all the right circles Internationally. Was a player in the US rendition programme. Was known as Sheikh al Torture and it was said few months back that Saudi Prince Nayaf had enlisted him into Saudi intelligence now he is unemployed in Egypt. He was the man who Egyptians rejected as the VP during revolution as being traitor and the US CIA man in Cairo.


    A few things from it:


    Suleiman is saying Saudi is about to explode. He talks of wahabi influence. He talks of giving people democracy. Of different countries needing democracy but not every country should follow US kind of democracy.

    He talks about US policy of breaking up strong Arab nations ties to keep them weak. Create frictions.

    Of the congressmen (doesn't name who) and CIA who are giving Gaddaffi the information that Saudi and Egypt are plotting against him.

    Gaddaffi says yes that was true and the USA was giving him that information.

    Suleiman says no one should trust the USA and that each country should discuss things face to face with each other and not through USA so they know what is true and what is not. He talks of the MB ability to get funds easily because the people are simple and trusting. Egypt does not have culture of elections.

    The USA is funding opposition newspapers and parties and funding channels. The US have been funding Ayman Noor one of the main opposition names and involving Coptic christians in this funding and following.
    US Supporting Sa'ad El Din Ibrahim the exile who came back and signed support for Gamal Mubarak campaign in public and to talk badly about Egypt. In short US was supporting Gamal Mubarak. (well that was known anyway)

    Gaddaffi asks Suleiman why then is Egypt friends with USA and he replies they will never be friends or are friends of USA. Egypt is just avoiding clashes. US are threatening to sanction Egypt like Syria. He talks of USA using word democracy to destabilize Arabs. He talks of Darfur and saying US gave the weapons in Darfur. They want conflict. Conflict between Syria and Lebanon between Coptic Chrsitians and Muslims. He calls Egypt the 'BIg Prize'.

    Suleiman says confrontation between USA and Egypt is coming but they are delaying it and US only has it's own interests first and last. They dont care about anything else. Suleiman said there was no real partnership between USA and Egypt.
    US divided Sudan and next is to divide Egypt the real prize.
    Sounds like Suliman was telling Khadafi (who was always delusional and unstable) what he wanted to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    Sounds like Suliman was telling Khadafi (who was always delusional and unstable) what he wanted to hear.
    but was he speaking the truth is the question
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Gulf countries gettin' together to fight MB...

    Gulf nations unite to combat Brotherhood
    Saturday, Sept. 14, 2013 — More than six months ago, Dr. Mahmoud al-Jaidah was detained as he traveled through Dubai en route home to Qatar. He has been held ever since.
    UAE authorities have given no public statements on the case. The family of the 52-year-old doctor has no doubt why he is detained: He has been caught up in the escalating pressures across the Western-backed Persian Gulf states against the Muslim Brotherhood and its perceived Islamist allies. Al-Jaidah's family claims he has no active role with the Brotherhood. The crackdowns in the gulf began more than a year before the Muslim Brotherhood's political collapse in Egypt this July. They now take on wider regional implications, meshing with the campaign of arrests by Cairo's new military-protected leadership against the Brotherhood.

    The Egyptian military's ouster of President Mohamed Morsy further emboldened the UAE and other gulf states to step up arrests of suspected Brotherhood supporters, whom they view as a threat to the gulf's tightly run fraternity of monarchs, sheiks and emirs. In turn, several gulf countries have stepped up as critical sources of cash for Egypt's new military-backed leadership. The UAE, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have promised Egypt $12 billion in aid. “The gulf states and Egypt are now bonded together in the belief of the Muslim Brotherhood as their common enemy,” said Christopher Davidson, an expert in Persian Gulf affairs at Britain's Durham University.

    Gulf rulers long have considered the Brotherhood a danger. In Saudi Arabia, the Brotherhood's version of political Islam is perceived as a challenge to the country's monarchy, which is backed by the strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. Gulf officials have become fearful of anything that could serve as potential footholds for the Brotherhood. In rhetoric at least, the group has begun to replace Iran as the most worrisome threat. The exception is Qatar, which has cultivated the Brotherhood regionwide and strongly backed Morsy. In July, Dubai's police chief, Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim, warned of an “international plot” by the Brotherhood to undermine gulf leaders and expropriate the region's huge riches. Last week, he posted a Twitter message directed at the Brotherhood and its backers: “You must know that everyone from the ocean to the Gulf hates you.”

    Read more: http://triblive.com/usworld/world/47...#ixzz2f0zPN87Z
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