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    Quote Originally Posted by Texsdrifter View Post
    If a individual or organization was under investigation by law enforcement. Used the example set by the DOJ in this incident; what would the assumption of law enforcement be? If there was nothing to hide withholding evidence and individuals taking the 5th amendment would be unusual. If it went no higher than already known, I do not feel as if these tactics would be used.
    Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PNhYk9NuNc"]Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious - YouTube[/ame]

    Project Gun Runner (Fast and Furious) was launched under the orders of President Barack Obama with the knowledge of Attorney General Eric Holder. Deputy Attorney General David Ogden announced the Obama Administration's new and aggressive 'comprehensive plan' on March, 24, 2009. The plan was aimed at disrupting gun trafficking between the United States and Mexico.

    They can run, but they can't hide from the truth. This will either be an Obama shining moment by getting to the bottom of who's responsible and seeing to it they are brought to justice or he will continue to flee from the truth hoping it will go away. It won't, it will simply drag his campaign for re-election to the bottom of the river where it will unceremoniously drown.
    Last edited by Professor Peabody; Mar 27 2012 at 11:26 PM.
    Would the IRS accept the excuse YOUR hard drive crashed 10 days after receiving an audit notice, so you can't supply the information they're asking for? Would they just drop it and go away? Why should they be held to any less of a standard they set for us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio Refugee View Post
    It's all about the slow walk. Delay. Delay. Delay. Keep the real poop from hitting the fan until after the election. There's some non-zero chance of a Dem House in November ending all this and that's plan B.

    There's no justice to be had from Justice. Holder is a racist and a criminal and need to be exposed to the masses.
    I am rather hoping the real poop does not hit the fan on this until mid summer. The public's memory is short at times. It would be better to have the impeachment hearings in October and November
    "America is more than just a place...it's an idea. It's the only country founded on an idea. 'Our rights come from nature and God, not government.' We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes." - Paul Ryan

    I find it ironic to be called a denier by people who are advocating policies which are already killing tens of thousands through energy poverty where those policies have became law. - jackdog

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    Dems will begin to get on the record as being critical of Obama as November's tsunami approaches. They do not want to be swept out to sea with the One and "My People".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonGlock26 View Post
    Dems will begin to get on the record as being critical of Obama as November's tsunami approaches. They do not want to be swept out to sea with the One and "My People".

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    A lot of them decided it was a lost battle already and just decided not to seek re election
    "America is more than just a place...it's an idea. It's the only country founded on an idea. 'Our rights come from nature and God, not government.' We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes." - Paul Ryan

    I find it ironic to be called a denier by people who are advocating policies which are already killing tens of thousands through energy poverty where those policies have became law. - jackdog

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackdog View Post
    A lot of them decided it was a lost battle already and just decided not to seek re election
    I like it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Peabody View Post
    Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious

    Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious - YouTube

    Project Gun Runner (Fast and Furious) was launched under the orders of President Barack Obama with the knowledge of Attorney General Eric Holder. Deputy Attorney General David Ogden announced the Obama Administration's new and aggressive 'comprehensive plan' on March, 24, 2009. The plan was aimed at disrupting gun trafficking between the United States and Mexico.

    They can run, but they can't hide from the truth. This will either be an Obama shining moment by getting to the bottom of who's responsible and seeing to it they are brought to justice or he will continue to flee from the truth hoping it will go away. It won't, it will simply drag his campaign for re-election to the bottom of the river where it will unceremoniously drown.
    I feel that decision has already been made by Obama. If he had wanted to see the truth come out, we would already know what happened. The many comments that were coming from the white house and DOJ before this scandal broke. The statements regarding american guns in Mexico that one could assume were trying to be fulfilled by the operation itself. The extreme silence following the whistle-blowers allowing the operation come to light. The natural appearance of the events would suggest it goes to the highest levels of at least the DOJ. If not the executive branch itself. The lack of outrage from supporters of the administration over the deaths of law enforcement and many Mexican citizens and leaders. It appears Holder has learned alot from Janet Reno on how to cover up deadly government scandals.


    If the past is any indication we may never know the full story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texsdrifter View Post
    I feel that decision has already been made by Obama. If he had wanted to see the truth come out, we would already know what happened. The many comments that were coming from the white house and DOJ before this scandal broke. The statements regarding american guns in Mexico that one could assume were trying to be fulfilled by the operation itself. The extreme silence following the whistle-blowers allowing the operation come to light. The natural appearance of the events would suggest it goes to the highest levels of at least the DOJ. If not the executive branch itself. The lack of outrage from supporters of the administration over the deaths of law enforcement and many Mexican citizens and leaders. It appears Holder has learned alot from Janet Reno on how to cover up deadly government scandals.


    If the past is any indication we may never know the full story.
    Ayuh,... It does have over tones like those of Waco, 'n Ruby Ridge, don't it,..??

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftlegmoderate View Post
    That's really good to hear. It's good to see people stepping outside the party line. Choosing principal over party.



    So, there is either some really (*)(*)(*)(*)ing evidence within those 80k pages, or we must assume that this administration is trying to spare us all a 'dry, boring read'.
    Takes time to redact the hell out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bondo View Post
    Ayuh,... It does have over tones like those of Waco, 'n Ruby Ridge, don't it,..??
    Yes, it does one should expect more from the top law enforcement officials. It is sad how fast they change from prosecutor to defense attorney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texsdrifter View Post
    I feel that decision has already been made by Obama. If he had wanted to see the truth come out, we would already know what happened. The many comments that were coming from the white house and DOJ before this scandal broke. The statements regarding american guns in Mexico that one could assume were trying to be fulfilled by the operation itself. The extreme silence following the whistle-blowers allowing the operation come to light. The natural appearance of the events would suggest it goes to the highest levels of at least the DOJ. If not the executive branch itself. The lack of outrage from supporters of the administration over the deaths of law enforcement and many Mexican citizens and leaders. It appears Holder has learned alot from Janet Reno on how to cover up deadly government scandals.


    If the past is any indication we may never know the full story.
    Well said TD. The administration has marginalized near 300 deaths.
    Would the IRS accept the excuse YOUR hard drive crashed 10 days after receiving an audit notice, so you can't supply the information they're asking for? Would they just drop it and go away? Why should they be held to any less of a standard they set for us?

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