Can George Zimmerman Get a Fair Trial?

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  1. Blackrook

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    With black leaders already announcing his guilt, can George Zimmerman get a fair trial?

    With the black community so riled up on Zimmerman's guilt, can we trust any black to serve on his jury?

    Would a jury convict Zimmerman even if they thought he was innocent to avoid death threats and violence from the black community?

    If Zimmerman is acquitted, would blacks accept it, or would they riot like they did after the Rodney King trial?
     
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    Depends.

    No.

    Depends.

    They would riot.
     
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    I predict on this date, March 26, 2012, that this situation is going to escalate, there will be violence, and people will die.
     
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    Zimmerman will get more of a fair trial than Trawon Martin received.
     
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    Zimmerman can't get a fair trial anywhere in America. His lawyers will make that case and he will walk.
     
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    You're a lawyer.

    Tell us more.
     
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    The last time I saw pre-trial publicity at this level was the Rodney King case. The media played that video over and over until nearly everyone in America had seen in multiple times.

    The defense lawyers convinced the judge that the cops could not get a fair trial anywhere in Los Angeles County, so they moved the trial to Simi Valley in Ventura County, which is just north of Los Angeles County.

    Ventura is almost all white, and the jury was 10 whites, one Asian, and one Hispanic.

    And when the jury came back with an acquittal for three cops and a hung jury for one, the blacks in Los Angeles would not accept the verdict, and neither would Mayor Bradley. Even President Bush would not believe the verdict.

    But this case has seen a level of hatred towards Zimmerman that I did not see towards those cops. There were never "dead or alive" posters for those cops, or threats to take vigilante justice against them. So this situation is much more aggravated than the Rodney King case.

    The defense lawyers will argue that there is no way Zimmerman can get a fair trial anywhere near where the crime happened, since the blacks in that community are all riled up. But the fact is, Zimmerman can't get a fair trial anywhere.

    Blacks can't be trusted to be on the jury because they have already decided he's guilty without looking at the evidence. Anyone of any other race would convict even if he thought Zimmerman was innocent, for fear of violence or murder at the hands of black people. So if they do try to put him on trial, any fair-minded judge would rule he can't get a fair trial and dismiss the charges.

    Zimmerman is in hiding because he fears for his life. My guess is he will have to go into a witness protection program and assume a new identity. My guess is he will never be arrested, because he didn't commit a crime.

    I just hope that things blow over, but I am not hopeful.
     
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    Of course, any judge who dismissed the case against Zimmerman would get death threats and would also have to go into hiding. So, I could be wrong.
     
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    Zimmerman is a man without a country. Leftists, their lynch mobs, and their complicit media whores have seen to it....

    All to deflect the heat from Obama's misery index.
     
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    I'd say if "justice" was served instead of this whole fiasco of BS, he MIGHT be able to. Perhaps if they at least DETAINED Mr. Zimmerman long enough to check out his story (did anyone know the eightball police did a background check on the dead kid, but NOT the cowardly gunman???), then PERHAPS he COULD HAVE. At this point? Possibly not.
    The kid is dead and this guy is walking the streets. That's OBSCENE..
     
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    Zimmerman's position is now as bad as Salman Rushdie's, or anyone else who has angered the imams of fundamentalist Islam.

    Ironically, it is Americans who have forced this man to live in fear for his life, not foreign terrorists.

    Obama promised that he would unite this country if he was elected, but it was a lie.

    Race hatred is now worse than ever, and he is much to blame for it.

    He should have told black people to calm down over this situation, but instead he threw fuel on the fire by saying this young man "looked like his son."

    That was a signal from Obama to black agitators they had free rein to do whatever they wanted to Zimmerman, and he would back their play.

    He has not condemned the "wanted dead or alive" posters or any of the rest. Nor will he.
     
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    So Obama did this too huh????? Well, that didn't take long. You right wingers are whacked man.
     
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    The first injustice was Zimmerman stalking Martin. The primary injustice to Zimmerman and the community-at-large, was local authorities NOT detaining Zimmerman and conducting a proper investigation.

    It is 2012, not 1912.
     
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    You don't know that Zimmerman was stalking Martin. That is an assumption you are making based on no evidence at all.

    It is true that Zimmerman was following Martin while he made that 911 phone call. But the 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman to stop following Martin and Zimmerman said, "ok".

    We don't know what happened after that. Any assumption that Zimmerman disregarded the dispatcher's request is just that, an assumption.

    And the other problem with this theory is that it is legal for a citizen to question people who are suspected of committing a crime, and even detaining them. This is called "citizen's arrest." Citizen's arrest is the reason shop owners have a right to detain shoplifters. Citizen's arrest has existed in the common law countries since the middle ages.

    Zimmerman was within his rights as a citizen to question a person who did not live in his neighborhood and looked suspicious. Trayvor Martin was not authorized to use violence against Zimmerman for questioning him. Zimmerman acted in justified self-defense because Trayvor was causing him serious bodily injury by banging his head on the sidewalk.

    It's an open and shut case and that's why the police did not arrest Zimmerman. If they did, he could sue them for wrongful arrest and he would win the lawsuit.
     
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    We are all speculating upon the evidence we possess.

    We'll see what comes of ongoing investigations and court cases.
     
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    Yes, it's all speculation.

    So why is your side villifying Zimmerman and making death threats?
     
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    Were you there? This is what has been widely reported and was likely leaked by police(which they shouldn't have done: )

    'Zimmerman told police he lost Martin in the neighborhood he regularly patrolled and was walking back to his vehicle when the youth approached him from behind.

    The two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, and Martin then punched him in the nose, jumped on top of him and began banging his head on a footpath.

    Zimmerman said he began crying for help.'

    There is also a witness who saw Trayvon(TM) on top of Zimmerman and said Zimmerman was screaming for help. Zimmerman had a broken nose and injuries to the back of his head.

    Although no one can say what happened without reviewing all the available evidence - which we don't have - I wouldn't be surprised if this was a racially motivated attack by Trayvon(TM.)
     
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    You were not there either.
     
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    You mean the police did something they shouldn't have done AGAIN??? In the same case? You mean BESIDES freeing a murderer????
     
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    If the police were to arrest Zimmerman they would need probable cause. But Zimmerman explained what happened, and his story was consistent with the physical evidence, i.e. his broken nose and the lacerations on the back of his head, which proved that Trayvon very violently attacked him.

    But it appears that the facts of this case don't matter to the black agitators and their cheerleaders on the left. They have declared Zimmerman guilty and no court of law could ever change that verdict now.
     
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    Imagine: Black man shoots a White man. Would there most likely have been an arrest? (That Florida law is INSANE.)
     
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    He "explained what happened"?

    Gee officer....the guy punched me in the nose after I chased him down, so, I blasted him.
    Well...okay Sir....you have a good day and we'll run a background check on this thug.

    "The black agitators"? That what they are to you??? What are they supposed to do exactly? Wait until the good officers find the time to investigate the incident and then get back to them?


    I suspect that if we had a young, well to do white girl, and a "black agitator" that killed her, after chasing her down with a gun and shooting her, the right wing would be whining foul, and the "black agitator" would be on death row already.
     
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    Watch how many 'silly' BS answers you get to this premise.
     
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    BS is likely very accurate. It was only a black kid that got killed...why all the fuss??? Right?
    I'm sure some more fancy BS will be offered up though.
     
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    Complete nonsense.
    Race hatred spiked after Obama was elected because all of the racist right-wingers refused to accept the results and embarked on a 4 year long tantrum of lies, vicious character assassination and racist hysterics.
    The epidemic of brain farts among the right has been growing worse as we approach another election and they contemplate the thought that they may still have a black potus and cic for another four years and they will become lame-duck racists.
    I would definitely beef up the secret service after Obama gets re-elected because there will be a lot of right-wingers who will want to try second amendment solutions to rid themselves of that troublesome Kenyan.
     

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