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    Good news! Fewer illegals crossin' the border - and some are even goin' back...

    Pew study: Mexican immigration to U.S. down sharply since 2005
    4/24/2012 - Mexican immigration to the U.S. has slowed since 2005, and the number of illegal immigrants from Mexico living in the country has dropped significantly after more than four decades of growth, a study released Monday by the Pew Research Center shows.
    Roughly 6.1 million undocumented Mexican immigrants were living in the U.S. last year, down from a peak of nearly 7 million in 2007, the Pew study found. The report also says about 1.4 million Mexicans moved from the United States to Mexico between 2005 and 2010. Jeffrey Passel, a senior demographer at Pew who co-wrote the analysis, said government data now show a clear shift among Mexican workers already in the U.S. who are returning home. He told The Associated Press that data are a sign that many immigrants are giving up on life in the U.S., feeling squeezed by increasing enforcement and limited economic opportunities that they don't see improving anytime soon.

    It's not just that there are fewer jobs, more crackdowns on illegal immigrants, more deportations and more bureaucratic hassles with work visas. The Pew study also points to the weak U.S. economy, violence along the Mexican border and a long-term decline in the birth rate in Mexico. "More and more immigrants have fewer and fewer opportunities to legally come to this country," said Claudia McClintock, executive director of Child & Migrant Services in Palisade. "I am hearing anecdotally that more workers will not be returning this year. Jennifer Lee, an attorney with Colorado Legal Services, said she sees the general economic slump slowing immigration. "And it's only my own speculation, but I wonder if the anti-immigrant climate is accounting for some of this," Lee said.

    The Pew report called the slump in Mexican immigration a "notable reversal of historic pattern." Migration from Mexico that began after 1970 brought the largest number of immigrants from a single country to the United States in American history. During that period, about a third of all immigrants were born in Mexico. The 12 million Mexican-born people who now live in the United States — about one in 10 of all Mexicans in the world — are more than all the immigrants in any other country, the Pew report said. The report also pointed out that about 58 percent of an estimated 11.2 million illegal immigrants in the United States are from Mexico.

    Many of the immigrants who are returning to Mexico have left on their own, but the report showed there was also a significant increase in the number of Mexicans deported by immigration authorities in the United States. Mexican census data cited in the report showed that going hand-in-hand with that, there has been a large increase in the number of U.S.-citizen children now living in Mexico — the likely result of deportations of their parents. In 2000, there were about 240,000 U.S. citizen children living in Mexico. In 2010, that number more than doubled to 500,000. The Pew study was released amid heightened attention on immigration. The Hispanic population, which makes up roughly 16 percent of the U.S. population, is expected to play a key role in the upcoming election, particularly in several swing states, including Colorado.

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    Truckload of illegals overturns, killing 14...

    14 Dead After Truck Carrying Immigrants Crashes
    July 23, 2012 - A pickup truck overloaded with illegal immigrants veered off a highway and crashed into trees in rural South Texas, killing at least 14 people and leaving nine injured, authorities said Monday.
    Federal immigration agents were looking into the human smuggling aspect of the case, while public safety authorities investigated the cause of the Sunday evening crash in Goliad County, about 150 miles northeast of the border with Mexico. The pickup crammed with 23 immigrants from Mexico and Central America crashed less than an hour's drive from the site of the nation's most deadly immigrant smuggling case, where 19 immigrants died in 2003 after being placed in a sweltering trailer. "This is the most people I've seen in any passenger vehicle, and I've been an officer for 38 years," Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman Gerald Bryant said.

    The driver was among the 11 found dead at the scene, Bryant said, adding that investigators were trying to confirm his name. Six of those who died in the crash were still inside the cab of the mangled vehicle and one more remained in the truck's bed when emergency crews arrived at the scene, Bryant said. Others were scattered on the roadway and in a ditch between the pavement and the fence line where the truck stopped. Bryant said he saw at least two young children among the dead. There was very little in the way of belongings or identification, he said. The truck was registered in Houston to someone other than the driver, Bryant said. A woman who answered at the address where the truck was registered said she was the daughter of the man listed at the owner. But she said they had sold the truck and it was no longer theirs. Asked when the sale took place, she hung up.

    A DPS accident reconstruction team was investigating the crash, but Bryant said it could be another week or two before its work concluded. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were working to confirm the identities of the victims and investigate the possibility that they had been smuggled into the United States. ICE spokesman Greg Palmore said that among the 11 men and three females who died were citizens of Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras. Victor Corzo, the head of legal affairs at the Mexican consulate in San Antonio, said the only Mexican citizen involved was a 22-year-old man was from Tamaulipas state. The state in northern Mexico borders South Texas. Corzo said Monday the consulate was still working to notify the man's family. The white 2000 Ford F-250 pickup was heading north on U.S. 59 when it drove off the right side of the highway near the unincorporated community of Berclair and struck two large trees, Bryant said. Berclair is about 90 miles southeast of San Antonio.

    It is not uncommon for human traffickers to try to maximize profits by over-loading vehicles with illegal immigrants as they head north from the Texas-Mexico border. In April, nine Mexican immigrants died near the border when the teenage driver of their van crashed after fleeing Border Patrol. There were 18 people in that minivan. In that case, six adults face a variety of federal charges and the 15-year-old driver was charged in state court with nine counts of murder. Bryant told The Associated Press that several of the survivors of Sunday's crash had life-threatening injuries. He did not have their official conditions but described them as "very serious." The injured were taken to hospitals in San Antonio, Victoria and Corpus Christi.


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    Mayhem an' murder on Mexican highway...

    Attackers leave 14 corpses on major Mexican highway
    Thu Aug 9, 2012 - Attackers kidnapped and murdered 14 men and left their corpses in a Mercedes Benz van on a major highway in the state of San Luis Potosi in central Mexico, a prosecutor said Thursday.
    The men were kidnapped Wednesday in the northern state of Coauhuila, where the vehicle was stolen in an armed robbery, an official from the attorney general's office of San Luis Potosi said. The corpses were found early Thursday morning. The attack bore the hallmarks of drug cartels, but it was not immediately clear which group carried out the murders, or who the victims were, said the official, who asked that her name not be used for security reasons. Later Thursday, federal police raided an alleged drug cartel safe house in San Luis Potosi's state capital, leading to an hour long shoot-out with gunmen, an official from the federal police said.

    Mexico TV station Milenio showed amateur photos of students at a nearby university hiding under tables as the firefight raged. The federal officer said several suspected drug traffickers were arrested following the shooting. In 2011, a U.S. official was killed in an armed assault on his vehicle in San Luis Potosi. Thursday's attack is the fifth time in recent months that 14 corpses have been dumped in Mexico, signaling the number may be some sort of code for drug traffickers.

    In April, assailants strung up the corpses of 14 men in Nuevo Laredo, on the border with Texas. Coolers containing 14 men's heads were left on a city street the next month. In June, police found 14 corpses in a vehicle near the town hall of Mante, in Tamaulipas state, and another 14 on a road in neighboring Veracruz state.

    There have been more than 55,000 gangland murders and execution style hits since President Felipe Calderon took power in December 2006 and declared a national crackdown on drug gangs. Many of the victims have been identified as innocent civilians unconnected to the drug trade. President-elect Enrique Pena Nieto takes power in December and has promised to reduce the rate of homicides and kidnappings.


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    The situation in Mexico is akin to putting a bandaid on your broken leg, and complaining about all the blood coming out.

    Perhaps if you helped Mexico develop, less people would be inclined to leave.
    Oh wait, that would require you giving up the exploitation of cheap Mexical labor - never mind.

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    Border Patrol halts Mexico flights
    September 10, 2012 — The U.S. government has halted flights home for Mexicans caught entering the country illegally in the deadly summer heat of Arizona's deserts, a money-saving move that ends a seven-year experiment that cost taxpayers nearly $100 million.
    More than 125,000 passengers were flown deep into Mexico for free since 2004 in an effort that initially met with skepticism from Mexican government officials and migrants, but was gradually embraced as a way to help people back on their feet and save lives. The Border Patrol hailed it as a way to discourage people from trying their luck again, and it appears to have kept many away — at least for a short time. But with Border Patrol arrests at 40-year lows and fresh evidence suggesting more people may be heading south of the border than north, officials struggled to fill the planes and found the costs increasingly difficult to justify. Flights carrying up to 146 people were cut to once from twice daily last year.

    And this summer, there haven't been any. "Everything comes down to dollars and cents," said George Allen, assistant chief of the Border Patrol's Tucson sector. "We're running into a more budget-conscious society, especially with the government." He added: "Does it fit within our budget and is there an alternative that is not as effective but still effective?" In an effort to keep the flights going, American authorities proposed mixing in Mexicans who commit crimes while living in the U.S. The Mexican government balked at seating hardened criminals next to families, elderly and the frail who recently crossed the border in search of work. "Right off the bat, I can tell you that Mexico was not going to allow, nor will it ever allow, that kind of repatriation, which puts families' safety at risk," said Juan Manuel Calderon, the Mexican consul in Tucson.

    U.S. and Mexican negotiators also discussed changing the route from El Paso, Texas, where many Mexicans with criminal records are held, to the central Mexican state of Guanajuato. In the past, the route has been from Tucson to Mexico City. The flights may resume but not this year, U.S. and Mexican officials say. They have operated only in the summer and only in Arizona, designed as a humanitarian effort in response to the many migrants who have died over the last decade trekking through remote deserts in debilitating heat.

    U.S. Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and Mexico Interior Secretary Alejandro Poire said in February that they planned to launch a pilot program April 1 to fly migrants arrested while living in the United States deep into Mexico. The pilot program was partly a response to complaints from Mexican border cities that too many deportees were being dumped on their streets and contributing to crime and unemployment. "We wanted to maximize the flight and we couldn't come to an agreement," said Allen. "They were close. It may happen next year, but by the time it drug on, we got through July and for a short period of time, it wouldn't have been realistic."


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRepublic View Post
    The situation in Mexico is akin to putting a bandaid on your broken leg, and complaining about all the blood coming out.

    Perhaps if you helped Mexico develop, less people would be inclined to leave.
    Oh wait, that would require you giving up the exploitation of cheap Mexical labor - never mind.
    NO That would require exporting American jobs to Mexico which they are already doing.
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    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    `Bout as many comin' as goin' back to Mexico...

    Study: Mexican migration to US stabilizes
    Oct 23,`12 -- A new report by U.S. and Mexican researchers suggests an uptick in the number of illegal migrants headed to the United States in the first half of 2012, and a slight decrease in migrants returning to Mexico.
    The report by Mexico's Colegio de la Frontera Norte and the University of Southern California's Tomas Rivera Policy Institute says the U.S. Mexican migrant population appears to have stabilized and may be growing slightly.

    It would be the first time net migration outflow from Mexico has increased since the 2007 economic downturn.

    The report released Tuesday says that heightened U.S. anti-immigration efforts don't appear to have convinced migrants to leave.

    The report is based on surveys done at Mexican border crossings, bus stations and airports, and on U.S. deportation, repatriation and demographics data.


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    Granny says, "Mebbe it'll give immigration courts a chance to catch up...

    ICE: Fall in jail deportees tied to fewer migrants
    Thu Nov 1, 2012 - Since taking over the job of screening inmates at the Maricopa County jails nearly a year ago, federal immigration officials have deported far fewer criminals than in previous years, when immigration screenings were performed by the Sheriff’s Office.
    But U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say the drop reflects an overall decrease in illegal immigration, not a lack of commitment to conducting immigration screenings in the jail system. Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Bill Montgomery also say they no longer have any major concerns with ICE’s handling of the program, in which agents check the legal status of every person booked into jail with the goal of deporting immigrants who commit serious crimes.

    Arpaio and Montgomery had initially criticized the Department of Homeland Security, saying it wasn’t living up to its commitment to dedicate 50 ICE officers to conduct the immigration screenings at the jails after stripping the duties from the Sheriff’s Office. ICE has placed immigration holds on more than 4,936 immigrants booked into the jails since taking over immigration screenings last December, ICE officials said. So far, those holds have resulted in the removal of 926 criminal immigrants from Dec. 16, 2011, through Sept. 15 of this year, the agency said.

    The number of deportations is markedly lower from previous years, when the screenings were being performed by the Sheriff’s Office as part of an agreement with ICE. ICE officials say the decrease is part of a trend that correlated with a significant decrease in illegal immigration overall in Arizona. Since hitting a high of 12,555 in fiscal 2008, the number of immigrants in the county deported through the program, known as 287(g), has been steadily decreasing, according to ICE statistics. In fiscal 2009, ICE deported 8,585 immigrants through the program, followed by 5,327 in 2010 and 3,092 in 2011.

    In fiscal 2012, ICE deported 1,434 immigrants, including 508 from Oct. 1 until Dec. 16, when the immigration screenings were still being conducted by the Sheriff’s Office, and the 926 when ICE took over the screenings. Border Patrol apprehensions, a measure of illegal-immigrant traffic, totaled 123,285 in the Tucson Sector, which covers most of Arizona, in fiscal 2011, down from 378,239 in fiscal 2007. Statistics for fiscal 2012, which ended Sept. 30,have not been released yet.

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    Report: Immigration courts falling behind despite more judges
    11/01/12 - The Justice Department’s immigration courts have become less productive despite hiring more judges to handle deportation cases, according to a report released Thursday.
    The report, issued by the DOJ’s inspector general (IG), found that the number of cases completed by the Executive Office of Immigration Review’s (EOIR) courts has decreased since 2006 despite the hiring of 27 additional judges The EOIR has 59 immigration courts and 238 judges who decide which immigrants should be removed from the United States after the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) recommends deportation. In fiscal 2006, the EOIR’s 211 judges completed 324,040 immigration cases. But in fiscal 2010, the courts’ 238 judges were only able to complete 287,207 out of the 325,326 cases they received, or about 88 percent, according to the IG’s investigation.

    The IG’s report found that the backlog in cases was mostly due to the courts’ focus on processing violent or dangerous illegal immigrants whom the DHS has prioritized for removal in its immigration enforcement efforts. The courts anticipate their caseloads will continue to increase as a result of expanded DHS enforcement actions, according to the report. As a result, many of the illegal immigrants referred to the courts who were not determined to be a violent or dangerous risk to the public, and had not been detained in the lead-up to their removal, have seen their cases significantly delayed. “For example, cases in our sample for non-detained aliens took on average 17 ½ months to adjudicate, with some cases taking more than five years to complete,” the investigation states.

    The 59-page report, completed by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, made nine, mostly internal and managerial, recommendations for the immigration courts and their judges. The report reveals that in some instances, a court will categorize the case of an illegal immigrant as “complete” just because it has been transferred out of that particular court and into a different court within EOIR. Similarly, continuances are granted to cases more often than they should be, allowing them to carry on for extended periods of time, the report says.

    Horowitz suggests that the courts keep separate records that track a case to completion, even if it goes through other courts before being finalized. And in order to reduce delays, judges in the EOIR should craft guidelines that dictate when it’s OK to grant a continuance in a case. The IG suggests that the misleading reporting standards make it difficult for DOJ to manage the courts’ resources. “[It] precludes the Department of Justice from accurately assessing how well these bodies are processing immigration cases and appeals, or identifying needed improvements,” the report states.


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    Granny says, "Dat's right - lack of jobs is chasin' `em back across the border...

    Former Mexican Population Minister: Recession, Traffickers, Better Mexican Economy to Blame for Drop in Migration
    February 21, 2013 – The flow of Mexicans across the border to the U.S. has slowed dramatically due to a number of factors, including the U.S. recession, the dangers of trafficking, and an improved socio-economic situation in Mexico, a former Mexican population minister said Wednesday.
    There were 1.7 million arrests or apprehensions at the U.S.-Mexico border around 1995-96, when Gustavo Mohar began working as population minister. “Now we’re talking even 300,000, 400,000,” he said in a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C. Mohar noted several reasons for the decline in migration, including the U.S. recession and traffickers, who charge more and could be criminals. According to the Congressional Research Service’s report, “Mexican Migration to the United States: Policy and Trends,” Mexico-U.S. migration grew to about 11.5 million in 2009 from 2.8 million in 1979 with unauthorized migrants accounting for 60 percent of the increase. “Yet Mexican migration flows have declined since 2006, and recent data from multiple sources show a net rate of unauthorized migration fluctuating near zero, with some evidence that more Mexicans are leaving the United States than arriving, particularly unauthorized Mexicans,” the report said.

    “Researchers attribute this decline to the U.S. recession, stepped-up U.S. border security and interior enforcement, increasing abuses of migrants by smugglers and transnational criminal organizations, and expanding job opportunities in Mexico, among other factors,” the report added. “Some researchers also have found evidence that the high cost of crossing the border has encouraged some unauthorized migrants to remain in the United States for longer periods of time rather than returning to Mexico on a seasonal basis,” the report said. “Mexicans in Mexico and in the U.S. connect daily by the web, and they know whether there is a chance to work in the U.S. They know exactly the risks that they are facing now to cross the border is extremely difficult now,” said Mohar, former Sub-Secretary for Population, Migration and Religious Affairs at the Interior Ministry in Mexico.

    “They know that the trafficker is a bad guy now. He used to be a facilitator. Now it could be a criminal, and a trafficker is charging them much more than before, so it needs to be an expensive endeavor, [if] you want to travel illegally to the U.S.,” he added. Also, “there is a better economic and social environment in Mexico that makes people balance that probably I will stay, because I’m not doing so bad,” Mohar said. Mohar noted that there are still “extreme problems of economic and social equality and income and poverty in Mexico, but nevertheless, many people think that it’s better to stay.” He said traveling to the U.S. has also become dangerous because of gangs that “attack them, assault them, extort them, kidnap them or even kill them.” Demographics also played a role in Mexico’s migration, Mohar said. “Mexico has reached the peak of young people, and its curve of demographic growth is beginning to go down and is going to go down,” he said, predicting that Mexico would soon be “a country of older people – not necessarily old people, but older people.” “The demographic of young generation of 9 million people between 16-24 years old are still pressing the labor market in Mexico, but it’s diminishing,” he said.

    The number of central Americans traveling through Mexico to reach the United States has also fallen “dramatically” for the same reason, Mohar said. “The central Americans understand well that there is no job, that there is crime, that there is risk … so they have decided to stay in central America,” Mohar added. The Mexican government announced in 2011 that the number of central Americans crossing into the U.S. from Mexico dropped almost 70 percent over five years, the Associated Press reported. That number was based on the number of central Americans detained for being in Mexico without the proper documents. In 2005, that number was 433,000 compared to 140,000 in 2010.


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