Suicide of a Superpower -- Pat Buchanan on the Death of Western Civilization

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  1. DonGlock26

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    Uncommon Knowledge: Suicide of a Superpower -- Pat Buchanan on the Death of Western Civilization



    Peter Robinson sits with author, journalist and former presidential candidate, Patrick J Buchanan. From declining birth rates, to shifting values, to the decline of Christianity, Buchanan thinks Western civilization is falling apart. Buchanan is worried that the American melting pot has stopped assimilating immigrants the way it once did. Is America dying? Are you a racist if you think America is breaking apart? Find out.


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    The video interview is long, but worth it. If you haven't been paying attention to our national decline, this will be eyeopening. I read the book BTW. It was very good.
     
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    Can I get the clip note's version?
     
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    [video=youtube;8IuiieRDO94]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IuiieRDO94[/video]
     
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    I own and read Buchanan's book - Death of the West - which explains
    some of that.
    Buchanan was fired at MSNBC for daring to have a chapter with a
    Title that explains what is happening to this Country.
    No longer just the loss of manufacturing jobs like many Ethnic
    Fathers relied after WW II but now the fact that we have been inundated with
    minority births and illegals.Slowly evaporating away any melting pot
    European stock that made this the Greatest Generation { World War II }
    We have entered the next phase ... - The Slacker Generation.
     
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    Western Europe has been in a constant state of change since for thousands of years, and the Western hemisphere since the Europeans came over here. To think that its done changing would be idiotic and a complete ignorance of history.

    Change doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing but to think that Europe or the America's will look the same in a few hundred years is just ridiculous.
     
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    "We'll all be rooned!" What a lot of balderdash. History was obviously not a strong subject for Buchanan.
     
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    Did he mention the part about slashing tax revenues running up trillions of debt?
     
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    Well thank you.
    It's silly that he even thinks that.
     
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    Are you americans hoping the world freezes in the late 1800's? that aint gonna happen
     
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    Since when America became the cradle of western civilisation and why should anyone give a flying one about their "fall" ?
    Also i thought that the very idea of western civi is to evolve , go forward , improve and diversify ... carrying away old and obsolete values is not western .
     
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    Accusations of anti-semitism and Holocaust diminution

    Buchanan has written about the Holocaust and engaged in the defense of some accused of Nazi war crimes. For example, Buchanan wrote that it was impossible for 850,000 Jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at Treblinka. When George Will challenged him about it on TV, Buchanan failed to reply. In 1983 he criticized the U.S. Government for expressing regret over its postwar protection of Klaus Barbie. In 1985, Buchanan advocated restoring the citizenship of Arthur Rudolph, an ex-Nazi rocket scientist accused of employing slave labor at a V-2 plant. In 1987, Buchanan lobbied to stop deportation of Karl Linnas, accused of atrocities in Estonia. In 1991 William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote a 40,000-word National Review article discussing anti-Semitism amongst conservative commentators focused largely on Buchanan; the article and many responses to it were collected in the book In Search of Anti-Semitism (1992). He concluded: "I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination amounted to anti-Semitism."[18][19] The Anti-Defamation League has called Buchanan an "unrepentant bigot" who "repeatedly demonizes Jews and minorities and openly affiliates with white supremacists."[20] Neo-conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said about Buchanan that "There's no doubt he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice."[21] Buchanan has adamantly denied that he is antisemitic, and a number of conservatives and his journalistic colleagues, some of them Jewish, including Jack Germond, Al Hunt, and Mark Shields, have defended him against the charge.[22]
     
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    Exactly. Successful nations will be those who can ride along with the general flow of things. Our populations in comparison to India and China inherently mean that they will take a lot of power, which was gained over them by European empires. Empires which we now know were a bad idea in the long run.

    Who was it who said "you must learn to bend in the breeze, otehrwise you will snap"?
     
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    Exactly. Some British guys probably thought the same at the time of American independence, that we should have maintained the status quo, but it was better for Americans to have independence. Currently we have a similar relationship with much of the world, executed via trade and mnetary systems. They would be better off if they were liberated from these shackles and we'd figure out how to survive and thrive.
     
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    Correct. Virtually everything changes.
     
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    I think that America has always been flawed. From deception and eventually genocidal betrayal of the native, indigenous peoples to the slavery of black africans...we were born out of greed and bloody spirit.

    All too often a nation is judged by power, how much others fear it, and its wealth. America's obsession with wealth drove us to a certain level and then eventually greed toppled it. If we haven't hit rock bottom its only because we're tripping on other countries on the way down. Our written values are better than our behavior.

    If we want to be a great nation we must overcome the internecine bickering of the likes that occur here and work together for a better nation. Many of you seem to think that immigrants are hurting our system and that couldn't be farther from the truth. They came here for their families. There are strong value systems at work. Work with them, not against them and you'll see this.
     
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    Pat Buchanan is another unlikable person, but one of the most savy political people alive today. He is waaaaaaaaaaaaay far to the right, to be sure, but his knack for seeing what is in the future has never been off. It's his delivery that has kept him from he forefront. We teeter on the brink of complete collapse and Obama is like Nero fiddling away. We don't need a change, we have to have a change or else America is doomed to become third rate.
     
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    America became third rate in 2004 when it re-elected a prideful "C" student. This was confirmed in 2007 when he drove the world economy into the dirt.
     
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    Your sig reads "Hello! I'm from Europe, the place where history comes from." Why not keep your opinions over there. We have enough problems without you chiming in.
     
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    You don't actually. The US economy is outperforming Europe. The Brits are in a double-dip recession and have a bloody awful government that has no idea how to handle the broken economy. If you took off your ideological blinkers (I think you call them "blinders") you'd see that your economy is actually recovering; slowly, but it's recovering. Europe is going down the toilet fast thanks to its obsession with cutbacks and "austerity". When they wake up that a good dose of Keynesian stimulation is needed it could be too late for them.
     

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