The GOP's Death Wish: Republicans Can't Stop Pissing Off Hispanics, Women, and Young

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    The GOP's Death Wish: Why Republicans Can't Stop Pissing Off Hispanics, Women, and Young People

    By Robert Reich | HuffPost | 04/27/2012 6:51 pm

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    “What are the three demographic groups whose electoral impact is growing fastest? Hispanics, women, and young people. Who are Republicans pissing off the most? Latinos, women, and young people.

    It's almost as if the GOP can't help itself.

    Start with Hispanic voters, whose electoral heft keeps growing as they comprise an ever-larger portion of the electorate. Hispanics now favor President Obama over Romney by more than two to one, according to a recent Pew poll.

    The movement of Hispanics into the Democratic camp has been going on for decades. What are Republicans doing to woo them back? Replicating California Republican Governor Pete Wilson's disastrous support almost twenty years ago for Proposition 187 - which would have screened out undocumented immigrants from public schools, health care, and other social services, and required law-enforcement officials to report any "suspected" illegals. (Wilson, you may remember, lost that year's election, and California's Republican Party has never recovered.)

    * The Arizona law now before the Supreme Court - sponsored by Republicans in the state and copied by Republican legislators and governors in several others - would authorize police to stop anyone looking Hispanic and demand proof of citizenship. It's nativism disguised as law enforcement.

    Romney is trying to distance himself from that law, but it's not working. That may be because he dubbed it a "model law" during February's Republican primary debate in Arizona, and because its author (former state senator Russell Pearce, who was ousted in a special election last November largely by angry Hispanic voters) says he's working closely with Romney advisers.

    Hispanics are also reacting to Romney's attack just a few months ago on GOP rival Texas Governor Rick Perry for supporting in-state tuition at the University of Texas for children of undocumented immigrants. And to Romney's advocacy of what he calls "self-deportation" - making life so difficult for undocumented immigrants and their families that they choose to leave.

    * As if all this weren't enough, the GOP has been pushing voter ID laws all over America, whose obvious aim is to intimidate Hispanic voters so they won't come to the polls. But they may have the opposite effect - emboldening the vast majority of ethnic Hispanics, who are American citizens, to vote in even greater numbers and lend even more support to Obama and other Democrats.

    * Or consider women - whose political and economic impact in America continues to grow (women are fast becoming better educated than men and the major breadwinners in American homes). The political gender gap is huge. According to recent polls, women prefer Obama to Romney by over 20 percent.

    So what is the GOP doing to woo women back? Attacking them.

    Last February, House Republicans voted to cut off funding to Planned Parenthood. Last May, they unanimously passed the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," banning the District of Columbia from funding abortions for low-income women. (The original version removed all exceptions - rape, incest, and endangerment to a mother's life - except "forcible" rape.)Earlier this year Republican legislators in Virginia, Pennsylvania, Idaho, and Alabama pushed bills requiring women seeking abortions to undergo invasive vaginal ultrasound tests (Pennsylvania Republicans even wanted proof such had viewed the images).

    Republican legislators in Georgia and Arizona passed bills banning most abortions after twenty weeks of pregnancy. The Georgia bill would also require that any abortion after 20 weeks be done in a way to bring the fetus out alive. Republican legislators in Texas have voted to eliminate funding for any women's healthcare clinic with an affiliation to an abortion provider - even if the affiliation is merely a shared name, employee, or board member.

    All told, over 400 Republican bills are pending in state legislatures, attacking women's reproductive rights.

    * But even this doesn't seem enough for the GOP. Republicans in Wisconsin just repealed a law designed to prevent employers from discriminating against women.

    * Or, finally, consider students - a significant and growing electoral force, who voted overwhelmingly for Obama in 2008. What are Republicans doing to woo them back? Attack them, of course.

    Republican Budget Chair Paul Ryan's budget plan - approved by almost every House Republican and enthusiastically endorsed by Mitt Romney - allows rates on student loans to double on July 1 - from 3.4 percent to 6.8 percent. That will add an average of $1,000 a year to student debt loads, which already exceed credit-card debt.

    House Republicans say America can't afford the $6 billion a year it would require to keep student loan rates down to where they are now. But that same Republican plan gives wealthy Americans trillions of dollars in tax cuts over the next decade. (Under mounting political pressure, House Republicans have come up with just enough money to keep the loan program going for another year - safely past Election Day - by raiding a fund established for preventive care in the new health-care act.)

    Here again, Romney is trying to tiptoe away from the GOP position. He now says he supports keeping student loans where they were.

    Yet only a few months ago he argued that subsidized student loans were bad because they encouraged colleges to raise their tuition.

    How can a political party be so dumb as to (*)(*)(*)(*) off Hispanics, women, and young people? Because the core of its base is middle-aged white men - and it doesn't seem to know how to satisfy its base without at the same time turning off everyone who's not white, male, and middle-aged.”

    read:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/republican-campaign-2012_b_1460495.html

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    The republicans have done everything they can to turn voters away from their ranks, without even realizing it, in their zeal to get their agenda thru the courts before the elections. Possibly they may feel that they are the 'anointed ones' to be martyrs in their “great cause” in bringing down America and its people in the last ditch approach to institute a severe austerity progrema that isn’t doing well in Europe...why should it succeed in America, the leading country in the world?

    They have succeeded in alienating everyone but the white, male, middleaged....a very grouchy, hormone endangered, cranky, mentally confused base that would never succeed st the polls...even if they survived the drive there.....

    Only the old, confused, accident prone golden oldies will be voting for Mitt Romney in November...they are the only people in lala land that can find anything at all in the “let’s tie the dog to the roof of the car” mental midget that pretends he would be helpful in this troubled time in our history made possible by another mental midget, GW Bush.

    But even they should be able to push away the mists forming in their psyche, ignore the mist forming in their eyes as they try to focus in remembering their youth, and vote for President Obama, who has been leading them from the fires of Armageddon for almost four years with a steady, resolute march back toward prosperity for the American people.
     
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    Well if this were actually true then why did the republicans absolutely dominate in 2010?

    I don't believe your actually taking everything into context. Take Arizona for instance. Did you know that the majority of legal hispanics actually support their measures against illegals? Now ask yourself who is more likely to vote....legal hispanic residents or illegal hispanic residents.


    Your Thread Goes BOOM!!!!
     
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    And Democrats don't care how many people they (*)(*)(*)(*) off, like me. I'm a white male straight Christian who earns a six-figure income. According to the Democrats, I'm the enemy. I have absolutely no reason to vote for Democrats, because they hate people like me.
     
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    because at least 2 of 3 groups mentioned (as well as most people who arent pissed off already) dont turn out as high in midterm elections
     
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    really?

    Key findings included that 81 percent of Arizona’s Hispanic voters oppose SB 1070. Since the bills passage, the polls found, immigration reform has become the leading issue among Hispanic voters, shooting up by 16 percentage points and moving ahead of the economy and health care as the leading issue among Latino voters.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/17/hispanics-take-political-aim-at-arizonas-law/

    Twenty-four percent of Hispanics questioned in the poll favor the new law, with 71 percent opposed. Support for the measure jumps to 61 percent among white respondents, with opposition dropping to 34 percent among whites.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/27/cnn-poll-quarter-of-hispanics-support-arizona-law/
     
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    Could all three be under the same listing? Most likely. The Democrats use people, like no other politician party. Just look at all those promises obama made, and failed to keep. The Dem's. look for sheep.
     
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    a well written piece by Rober Reich in the highly respected Huffington Post. Reich is an absolute straight shooter with no leanings toward any party and the Huffington Post only reports who what and when and is not opinion based like Faux.

    Excellent thread with excellent facts
     
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    .......

    Only in your own biased mind....(grinning)
     
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    With a lot of help from the Democrats. Promise all those illegals that you'll make them citizens and won't deport them. Why wouldn't they want to vote for Democrats?

    Yes, Republicans are trying to hold down give aways that are bankrupting the country, but women like the get something for nothing the Democrats promise.

    Sure kids, go to college and we'll pick up your tab. I would love them too.

    People like getting stuff for nothing and it's for sure the Democrats are promising them all kinds of that stuff. Why not? Many of them don't pay taxes anyway so they don't have to pay off what they want to keep giving away.
     
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    Thanks, I adore Reich and am sure his pieces are vetted nicely. But he tells the truth that hits you in the face with its authenticity and devoid of any bias. He has the brain to run for a political office, but I am sure he is happy where he is: Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy, University of California at Berkeley. Author: "Beyond Outrage"
     
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    ......

    1) They will vote for Democrats because it will be a way to full citizenship. btw: Obama has deported more people in 3 1/2 years thasn Bush did in 8 years.

    2) the republicans were the majority of the outsized "earmark entitlements" in 2010 altho purportedly for cutting government spending/explain that! btw: Women now outgross men in earning power, why would they want something for nothing? Men get their Viagra for nothing, while women receive little help in caring for their babies...which are the result of no free family planning clinics for the poor.

    3) Wrong: The kids need low interest rates on college loans...nothing else.

    4) Many illegal aliens don't pay taxes because their employers prefer them working under the table where they don't have to pay/declare any taxes on emploees or any benefits, pay low wages and pocket the profit. The fault is with the employer and Congress, not President Obama.

    My problem with the whole Bush illegal alien ambush, is it takes jobs away from American citizens, and it leaves waiting lines of lawfully future American citizens that are OBEYING THE LAW consistent with becoming a citizen, while over 20 million others sneak into this country illegally and without regard for the financial/medical consequences to American citizens.
     
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    Robert Reich and the Huffington Post. A match made in fantasy. I think Reich would have made a good hobbit.
     
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    I'm young and Hispanic. Democrats won't stop pissing me off. Like really. You folks are my enemy.
     
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    Holy Crap... more Huffington Post bull crap by Agent_286. Can we just put a giant RE-DIRECT on this forum to the Huffington Post?

    I have never put any poster on "IGNORE"... but I think if we are just going to get mindlessly spammed with ThinkProgress, DailyKos, Huffington Post mindless puke perhaps I should start.
     
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    Wait. You believe that the GOP is doing well with Latinos? Seriously? Do you have any evidence to support this rather interesting belief?

    The OP doesn't quite go "boom" just because you want it to. Here, let me give you the latest poll from that Liberal Source: FOX News

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot...sident-obama-wallops-any-gop-candidate/62476/

    Looks like Mitt gets "Wallopped" by Obama 70% to 14%. Not surprising.
     
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    Maybe because conservative rep's know making illegals into instant legals is wrong. Or, maybe because they don't support tax payer funded abortion or BC. Then again, it could be because they know gov loans drive up the tuition for college just like liberal policy drove up housing prices. It could even be a combination of the three. If so, they would be right three for three.

    As Obama has proven numerous times, liberals are long on preaching Utopian promises and very short on positive results.
     
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    I love the smell of Democrat fear. It smells like victory.......



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    So none of you liberals have addressed my point....if the hispanics are so fearful of the republicans why did we sweep you out of office in 2010....why is 2012 gonna be any different for the democrats..

    Its not...there will be no major hispanic uprising...this thread is pure liberal B.S. ......as usual.
     
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    Even smart people fall for the Democrat propaganda talking points. In fact, this is just an extension of them.
     
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    White male straight Christian with 6 figure income? If you were from Arkansas I'd say you were Bill Clinton. Are you sure they don't love you?
     
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    Actually there are quite a few of us while males with 6 figures income that aren't hated by anyone.
     
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    You are hated by liberals..all of you.
     
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    ICE has deported more than they did under Bush. Obama stopped the deportion of illegals unless they committed a crime. He als sued Arizona for punishing employers for hiring illegals.

    It's just not to cut the interest rate on college loans.. Obama also wants to also cut the debt they are paying. I got this in my E-mail the other day from Move On.Org. They don't do anything without Obama's permission.


    "I wanted to make sure you see this urgent petition supporting the Student Loan Forgiveness Act of 2012, a bill in Congress that would extend a helping hand to those struggling under massive amounts of student loan debt."

    "The petition was started by MoveOn member Robert Applebaum, and already more than 750,000 people have signed. Robert is planning to deliver the first batch of petition signatures next week in Washington, D.C., and we want to help him get to one million signatures by then.

    Will you sign the petition and help reach the goal of one million? Just click here:"
     
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    the Huffington Post is an excellent platform for Reich to use to put forth his message. Other than MSNBC, there is no more credible source for truth and news than the Huffington Post. I click on the Huffington post each day in order to be briefed on the latest goings on.
     
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    Hmmm. So you when you don't like a fact that has been supported and verified, you just throw a tantrum? Okey dokey. Let me show you how an Independent address points directly!
    1. Obama and the Dems blew it their first 18 months. They did a terrible job and deserved to get their asses kicked. Is that clear enough? Good.
    2. What is different now? The GOP has blown it during the last 18 months as badly as the Dems did in the previous 24. This is why Obama has led in 8 of 10 polls every week for the last four months. That would be what's called a fact. You should try them some time! This is what is called supporting and verifying a fact: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    This was not the case in 2010. Blame for our problems were laid squarely at the feet of Obama and the Dems. They had accomplished NOTHING. The GOP said "Give us congress and we'll show you what we can do!" Well it's been two years and they have been the party of Zero. No one is impressed. In the meantime, Obama has had numerous successes (well, everyone except the Far Right considers them successes) and the GOP has screwed the pooch on several things. The economy is better than it was, unemployment is improving and even manufacturing & retail are up.
    That's all very different than 2010.
    Oh and for the first time in history, the minority vote is projected to exceed 30%. I'm sure you don't find that relelvent. Obama will win by approximately 290 electoral votes to 248 for Romney. But on the upside for your party, they will (narrowly) hold the house and split or abrely take the senate. yay.
     

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