Socialist, Rep John Conyers Offers Reparations Bill every Congressional Session

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  1. Trinnity

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    There was a thread about this that was closed for flaming.
    Can we all just discuss this without the Napalm? Thanks.

    I wanted to say this in response to Libhaters comment about Conyers:
    Conyers and Waters are socialists. They believe in socialism. They're part of the reason the dem party has become a socialist party in every way but name only.

    This was the 111th Congress, but many of these people are still there.

    I see a destructive trend in the dem party. It was always a little socialist by nature. But the pandering for votes has evolved this party to a socialist organization and I wonder how long before the dems will declare it openly. They aren't trying to hide it; why not come clean?

    Are they waiting to see if Obama will be re-elected before making a move? I think so.

    On another note, I don't see reparations going anywhere for so many reasons. But this socialism is bankrupting our country and it's a doomed ideology. We need to stand up to socialism before it's too late.

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  2. Leffe

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    First you lot confused communism and socialism.

    Then you confused the European welfare systems and socialism.

    Now you seem to think that reparations are socialism.

    You'd be better off focusing on the US educational system, it is clearly non-funcational.
     
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    Everything is "socialism" to republicans.
     
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    Gee, and I thought all the bashing of congressman Alan West of Florida for calling 80 or so Congressional Democrats Communists to be something the libs could run with or run on for the upcoming elections. Just goes to show you that everything Conservatives say is the GODs honest truth, while everything libs say is an absolute lie.
     
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    I am not sure why Tom Tancredo would make such a ridiculous claim.

    There is no "Socialist caucus" in congress. None.

    Tancredo's claim from last year is nothing roe than made up nonsense. With all of the real issues this country is facing, one would think that folks would be upset over something a bit more truthful.
     
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    You're not listening. SEVENTY members of the U.S. Congress belong to the Democratic Socialists of America. This is significant.

    Here's the post from the DSA, themselves, confirming it. Have a look.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/...oter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
     
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    Leffe, I would agree up to a point. When a car is on the interstate heading to Detroit it is not yet in Detroit. That's true. But, the left wants to pretend the car is going to Palm Beach because they know no one wants to go to or be in Detroit.

    And, you are clearly confused as to the function of the U.S. educational system. It's designed to fund and support the education unions which in turn help fund and support the socialist politicians or communist larvae if you prefer. Secondly, the U.S. education system provides lifetime employment to some pretty talented people and a ton of dysfunctional ones. And, the U.S. education system if functioning on both respect quite well. The last thing in the world the left wants is an educated populace who might be able to read the interstate signs that say, "Detroit -- 683 miles". Detroit? Aren't we going to Palm Beach? No, Virginia, we're not.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to admit ... Rep John Conyers has an uncanny ability of getting attention. :razz:

    What's even more hilarious, is he doesn't even have to change the story from year to year. :)
     
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    Enter the predictable deflective semantics argument....
     
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    Hey pot....................

    Some wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in the face
     
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    That's just blah blah.

    Reparations are NOT socialism!!!!!!!!!!!

    Please don't bastardise this word along with a whole bunch of others!
     
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    If you don't understand that there is no similarity what so ever in the meaning of these two words, YOU CANNOT SAY THAT SO STOP Of course you know the difference, you just want to defend a bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy statement within the OP.
     
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    OK, lets try another real world example.

    Ever since WWII, Germany has been paying reparations to Israel.

    This would by your rationale make Israel a socialist country.

    Is Israel socialist? yes or no?
     
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    Marxism, communism, socialism, Euro-styled social democracy, and progressive leftism are all leftist ideologies/socio-economic systems, and all deeply rooted in collectivism... they just utilize slightly different means to arrive at the same disasterous ends.

    Confiscating, then redistributing tax revenue designed to promote infrastructure for the whole....
    to individuals within a specific "group"...
    under the manufactured, emotionally extortive guise of social and economic "justice"...
    is a fundamental principle of collectivism, and a primary tactic employed by American collectivists.

    "Reparations", and the "Pigford" fraud are no different....
    and pretending otherwise is just that.... pretending.
     
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    Ok. I get it. You don't have idea of what are the different ideologies, and the distance that there is from one to other. That they have similar things, yes. Exatly the same in the right, fascism, nazism, liberalism, libertarianism conservatism aka fascism, neoconservatism aka fascim, neoliberalism... all them share many points.
     
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    It's insane isn't it!?! But the conservative brain preferes, no, insists upon things being black and white. Anything else is just too complex for them to fathom.
     
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    Hey lefty, perhaps you could unwind the complexities of lefty ideologies for all of us to see, for I'm quite sure we Conservatives are confused over the differences between socialism and capitalism or between liberalism and Conservatism. We'll need your clear description of these ideologies so that we'll be able to take a reasonable and rational stand on the political ideology of our choosing. Surely your game of semantics will get old once you step up to the plate and produce.
     
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    If we're not yet at the stage where you guys understand the difference between reparation and socialism, there's no point in getting into the other things buddy.

    Demonstrate to me that you know the difference between socialism and reparations and we'll talk further.
     
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    Bulloney. Socialism is the stepping stone to totalitarian states like communism.
    It's the gateway drug of sorts. The dem party knows full well it can get us to communism or whatever form on statism it is they're seeking. Considering all things, a hybrid of fascism and communism is the logical result. It's manifested in one socialist(Marsixt) Barack Obama and just look at the man's Czars for the proof.
    No, I don't think so.
    I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
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    I don't recall dems denying it. Nary a peep.
     
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    Just because you spout the same political ideology as your idol Karl Marx, doesn't necessarily mean you look like him in appearance. Same goes with speaking of reparations in reference to socialism. You'll need to go back to the original OP and reread how that socialist Rep Conyers uses govt taxes to keep his people (blacks in his district) dependent on these permanent social entitlement programs since 1989, and then figure out all on your own how he would refunnel reparation monies back into his district by paying for more of those failed social programs. You may also want to read of how a neighborhood nearby having 30-40 percent Arabs have managed to create 20 or so businesses in the 14 months after 9/11, and then compare the two communities of the crime-filled failed black ghetto to the successful crime free community of the Arabs, and then tell me how reparations or any other class warfare and income redistribution from the successful down to the incompetent isn't socialism.
     
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    Communism is an economic system that is based on communal ownership of property, hence it's name.

    Totalitarianism is a government system where the government has no limits on it's authority.

    The two things are not remotely related.

    China calls itself communist. The former USSR called itself communist. North Korea calls itself communist.

    However, none of them are remotely close to being communist.
     
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    It's all they have.
     

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