Waffen SS Tribute

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  1. John Sholtes

    John Sholtes Banned

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    Best soldiers of all time??? How so??? If they couldn't take hill 262 form a bunch of outnumbered poles doesn't that make the Polish soldiers the best or at least better than the SS? What battles did the SS win BTW????
     
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    Yes, killing surrendering troops and guarding unarmed jews, gypsies, and homosexuals in death camps...

    Be proud SS...be proud..*sarcasm*

    The majority were criminal thugs turned soldier, who deserved their fate...
     
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    lets not forget the Malmedy massacre - where these 'great soldiers' gunned down 83 unarmed POW's.
     
  5. Herkdriver

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    They weren't even good soldiers, mediocre at best..they relied on terror more than fighting abilities.

    Millions of unarmed Russian and Polish civilians were killed...

    1 in 10 Russian citizens were killed...

    You wonder why any surrendering SS was summarily executed by the Soviets?

    What goes around comes around.
     
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    If they're the "best", then why are they all dead?
     
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    Wrong SS.
     
  8. John Sholtes

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    This is a collection of autrocities committed by your allies the communist bolcheviks during and after WWII.

    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=141113

    As far as killing POW's goes on the order of President Isenhower 1.7 million German POW's including women and children were starved to death tortured rped and crucified. Whatever sources you have about the Holihoax and anything to do with the jew editeted history of WWII came from hollywood, the jew controlled newsnetworks or newspapers. The real winners of WWII were the bolshecik jews who took over Europe and now we see the results. Every European country has become overrun with foreigners and every country on earth is in dept to the jew banksters.
     
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    Ignore the post above mine. It's known to be bs.
     
  10. Think for myself

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    Really? Didn't they lose? Wouldn't that make them, at best, the second best soldiers?

    That being said, I watched the video. there seemed to be some German death metal and a bunch of pictures with nary an explanation about what made them good, as in not any higher then second best, soldiers.

    Or perhaps it is simply a way of paying tribute to the vile and bigoted philosophies of the Nazis, which ultimately lead to the death of tens of millions of people across Europe?
     
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    Oh brother, another Nazi apologist.

    SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS-TV), meaning "Death's-Head Units", was the SS organization responsible for administering the Nazi concentration camps for the Third Reich.

    It was responsible for facilitating what was called the Final Solution, known since as the Holocaust, in collaboration with the Reich Main Security Office and the SS Economic and Administrative Main Office or WVHA.

    At the outbreak of WWII one of the first combat units of the Waffen-SS, the SS Division Totenkopf, was formed from SS-TV personnel.

    The "splendid" Das Reich division which drowned mothers and children in wells in Oradour sur Glane and hung civilians from street lights in Tulle; the "fearsome" 12 SS who murdered 134 Canadian POWs in Normandy, sometimes by deliberatly driving heavy trucks on POWs columns being marched to the rear...all those splendid warriors; Peiper who left Normandy with a nervous breakdown after having been an ADC for most of the war; Monhke who was a morphine addict; Fegelein who became a general by marrying Hitler's wife sister and by "courageously" drowning hundred of jews in the Pripet swamps...the list of those perverts is endless.

    How funny it's only people who live in places that never had to feel the depravation and horror of the SS rule who think those murderers were anything but the lowest form of uniformed lives.
     
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    How does that make me an apologist? It's a fact.

    Would it make me an apologist if someone said, "Here's some Wehrmacht Heer troops," and showed a picture of the Luftwaffe and I pointed out that they were showing the wrong Wehrmacht arm?

    No.
     
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    No, that would make them massively outnumbered.
     
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    No, I looked it up and the Germans still lost WWII.
     
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    ORADOUR-SUR-GLANE Atrocity (Central France, June 10, 1944)

    On their 450 mile drive from the south of France to the Normandy invasion area, the 2nd SS Panzer Division 'Das Reich' (15,000 men aboard 1,400 vehicles, including 209 tanks) under the command of SS General Lammerding, arrived at Limoges, a town famous for its porcelain. In the small town of St. Junien (30 kilometres from Limoges) the 'Der Führer Regiment' was regrouping. Following many encounters with the local maquis in which two German soldiers were killed, a unit of the regiment arrived at ORADOUR (believed to be a hotbed of maquis activity) in a convoy of trucks and half-tracks. At about 2 PM on this Saturday afternoon the 120 man SS unit surrounded the village ordering all inhabitants to parade in the market place for an identity check. Women and children were separated from the menfolk and herded into the local church. The men were herded in groups into six carefully chosen local garages and barns and shot. Their bodies were then covered with straw and set on fire. The 452 women and children in the church were then suffocated by smoke grenades lobbed in through the windows and sharpnel grenades that were thrown down the nave while machine-guns raked the interior. The church was then set on fire.
     
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    They were massively outnumbered. They were at war with dozens of countries.
     
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    WORMHOUDT ATROCITY (Pas-de-Calais, May 27/28 , 1940)

    The day after the Le Paradis massacre, around 100 men of the 2nd Royal Warwickshire Regiment, the Cheshire Regiment and the Royal Artillery, were taken prisoner by the No 7 Company, 2nd Battalion of the SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler. At Esquelbecq, near the town of Wormhoudt, about twelve miles from Dunkirk, the prisoners were marched across fields to a nearby farm and there confined in a barn with not enough room for the wounded to lie down. There the massacre began. About five stick grenades were lobbed in amongst the defenceless prisoners who died in agony as shrapnel tore into their flesh. When the last grenade had been thrown, those still standing were then ordered outside, five at a time, there to be mown down under a hail of bullets from the rifles of the executioners. Fifteen men survived the atrocity in the barn only to give themselves up later to other German units to serve out the war as POWs. Bodies of the murdered victims were buried in a mass grave dug up near the barn. A year later, the SS, in an attempt to cover up the crime, disinterred the bodies and buried them in various cemeteries in Esquelbecq and Wormhoudt. In 1947, the War Graves Commission erected headstones over the graves but as most of the bodies bore no identification, their ID tags and pay books being destroyed by the SS prior to the shootings, the names carved on the headstones bear no relation to the bodies buried underneath. Unlike the Le Paradis massacre, the victims of Wormhoudt were never avenged, as after the war no survivor could positively identify any of the SS soldiers involved.
     
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    No one is saying that they didn't commit war crimes. The US military committed war crimes. EVERY military in WW2 committed war crimes.

    However, the list given was not the usual activities of the Waffen SS. Grow up.
     
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    THE TULLE MURDERS (Near Limoges, Central France, June 9, 1944)

    The day before the massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane, the SS murdered 99 men in the town of Tulle in central France. This was in response to activities by the local FTP resistance groups who had attacked and taken over the town. When the 2nd SS Panzer Division 'Das Reich' took over the town they found 40 dead bodies of the German 3rd Battalion/95th Security Regiment garrison troops near the school, their bodies badly mutilated. Other bodies were found around the town, bringing the total German dead in Tulle to sixty-four. Next day, the reprisals began. All males in the town were gathered together and 130 suspects were selected for execution. A number were released because of their youth and the remaining 99 were executed by the Pioneer Platoon of SS-Panzer Aufklarungs Abteilung 2. Their bodies were hung up on lamp-posts and from balconies along the main streets of the town in the hope that the hanging bodies would deter future attacks by the Maquis and the FTP. More would have been hanged had not the SS ran out of rope. Instead, they rounded up 149 civilians and deported them to Germany for slave labour. Of these, 101 did not return.
     
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    Wonderful soldiers indeed.
     
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    I just want to point out that the OP made the comment just to start another essentially anti-jew thread- reflected by his second post.

    We can all quibble about whether or not the Waffen SS were good combat soldiers but they were known for doing more than their share of atrocities, and do not deserve any accolades.

    I recommend we let this thread die a quiet death because the OP is just looking for an audience for his anti-jew diatribes.
     
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    Not a good way to examine history. These people did bad things so we'll just forget about them.
     
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    Those ordinary soldiers served in totalitarian states were also victims and if they had disobeyed orders, they would have been shot from behind or shipped to concentration camps. Erwin Rommel also known as the Desert Fox was not a National Socialist and he had to defend his country as a professional soldier and he often clashed with the German dictator and he joined the 20 July plot in 1944 to remove Hitler with three of his closest friends.

     
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    If I thought this thread had anything to do with an honest examination of history....I might agree. I know you have a good understanding of history and WW2, and you and I could have an interesting probably balanced discussion about the Waffen SS.

    But the OP just wants a love fest about the Waffen SS as an excuse to trot out his anti-jew stuff, and I am not going to participate in that.
     
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    The Brits Who Fought For Hitler

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    The Britisches Freikorps unit of the Waffen SS served alongside the Nazis on the Eastern Front. Its members wore the death's head insignia and took German rank. They helped defend Berlin even as Hitler retreated to his bunker.
     

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