HSecurity Bill 2012: House Passes $46 Billion Measure Containing Anti-Abortion Rider

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    Homeland Security Bill 2012: House Passes $46 Billion Measure Containing Anti-Abortion Rider

    AP | By Alicia A. Caldwell | 06 /08/2012 2:10 am

    WASHINGTON (AP) – “A Homeland Security spending bill approved by the GOP-led House on Thursday includes a provision to bar Immigration and Customs Enforcement from providing abortions for undocumented immigrant detainees.

    The measure, proposed by Rep. Robert Aderholt, R-Ala., would block ICE from using agency funding to provide abortion services for detainees except in the case of rape, incest or if there life of the mother would be endangered.

    The provision was attached to a $46 billion Homeland Security spending bill approved on a party-line 234-182 vote. It has little chance of surviving in the Democratic-controlled Senate.

    Barbara Gonzalez, an ICE spokeswoman, said the agency has not paid for abortion services since its 2003 creation.

    The agency's policy on abortion services is the same as the Justice Department's rule for the Bureau of Prisons, which restricts access to those services except in cases of rape, incest or if the life or the mother is in danger.

    Though the provision isn't likely to become law, its approval in the Republican-controlled House does send a political message in an election year when abortion, health care and reproductive rights have become issues.

    Last month a proposed ban on gender-based abortion failed by 20 votes in the House. That bill also had little chance of survival in the Senate. The vote was seen as an effort by both sides made an appeal for women's votes.

    The House on Thursday night also approved a provision to the Homeland Security bill that would block spending for ICE's newly created public advocate, whose office fields complaints and questions about immigration policy. Republicans have criticized the appointment, saying that the Obama administration was putting undocumented immigrants ahead of the interests of Americans.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/homeland-security-bill-passes-house_n_1579710.html
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    Here is the latest abortion of what a legislator is supposed to be doing. Apparently republicans in the House don’t yet know that abortion is the law of the land...but apparently not in the la-la land of the House.

    To attach a rider onto an important bill like Homeland Security puts the importance of the rabid pro-lifers’ agenda over the security of our country, but never mind it is their way of killing a bill to get their true agenda out there for the Senate to vetoe, and for the public to question what an anti-abortion bill is doing in a Homeland Security Bill in the first place.

    And while we are questioning, why does the Homeland Security have an allotment of $46 BILLION dollars when they couldn’t even handle the 2001 WTC fiasco and the 2005 Hurricane Katrina with any professionalism?

    And it seems in this era of austerity that the republicans could cut down on the big slush funds like HS and the Pentagon, but they don’t mind spending when it is in their agenda, but they are possibly waiting to cut funds for the elderly, sick, disabled, the poor, and children.

    The attachment of an anti-abortion rider to the HS spending bill is so blatantly stupid, hypocritical, and insulting to the intelligence of the populace that the House should be reprimanded for unethical actions and its leaders cited for an investigation for extreme stupidity, and any drug-related charges that may apply.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Two things:

    Why would we provide elective surgery for an undocumented immigrant detainee? Should we also provide lip injections or cap their teeth?

    Well, the 2001 WTC created the Department and I agree that it was a bad move. We have created more waste and robbed more liberties off this debacle--I mean, why was it necessary? Fewer people died than would have from the weather, but suddenly we have to restructure government and rob liberties.

    It would have been cheaper to change our foreign policy to one of protectionism and isolationism.

    EDIT: This wasn't an anti-abortion bill. I had no idea we were performing elective surgery using our tax dollars on detained illegals. Why does this make sense to you?
     
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    Obama doesnt care about homeland security.

    FBI looks into possible White House leaks
     
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    1) I don't think of an abortion as 'elective surgery' at all; sometimes it is an emergency. Instead of detaining an alien, if healthy put her on a plane to Mexico or wherever she comes from. A detainee has no inherent right to any medical services, but humanitarian physicians would say otherwise. See our emergency rooms for the activity for free medical care for illegals and their offspring.

    2) Home Security was the biggest Bush Slush Fund of his tenure. 9/11 gave Bush the reason to go to war in the middle-east...where all the oil is.

    3) By attaching the abortion rider to a bill does make it an anti-abortion bill because it bars any payment for humanitarian abortions for undocumented immigrant detainees (who are actually illegal aliens in custody) except for specific circumstances as listed in both articles.

    see:
    "WASHINGTON - A Homeland Security spending bill approved by the GOP-led House on Thursday includes a provision to bar Immigration and Customs Enforcement from providing abortions for illegal immigrant detainees.

    The measure, proposed by Rep. Robert Aderholt, R-Ala., would block ICE from using agency funding to provide abortion services for detainees except in the case of rape, incest or if the life of the mother would be endangered."

    see:
    http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/n...hs-bill-with-anti-abortion-rider-1388039.html
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    The rider specifies that no ICE funds would be used if the criteria is not met. That presumedly another agency would need to fund the abortion.
     

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