Quit (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the rich

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can't change that. We have always had the rich with us and until the last 10-20 years, we didn't care. That's because we had jobs. Good paying jobs. As long as we have ours, we could care less that they have theirs. Instead of complaining about the rich, you should be doing what you can to save the jobs we have and try and bring jobs back. You can only do that with your buying habits. If you put half as much energy making sure the products you buy are American, as you do (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the rich, we could have hundreds of thousands of more jobs here.

    Several weeks ago, ABC's Diane Sawyer's evening news show, showed how buying American products effects jobs. They are going to do another segment on it next week. I suggest you all watch it, along with the labels on the products you buy.
     
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    Brother....you can't fight the fat cats and their endless supplies of cash.

    Do you believe in God? I do...and I firmly believe God will take care of this whole mess and hold accountable those that are never held accountable. The corporate rich have earned their destiny. Let's see them try and screw with God. Do not pass go....do not collect....ever again....STRAIGHT TO HELL. Praise the Lord!!!
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    The rich created this country, they were mostly libertarian land owners, but its time for the socialists to take over. Their way always fails according to free market principles where risk rewards or punishes business men, and when it punishes them that leaves an opening for the socialists, that is how medicare and social security were started after libertarians and their conservative christian friends, created the great depression of 20 percent of the population.
     
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    I agree that buying American is a good idea.
     
  5. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    I don't know that buying American really makes that much difference. It helps American manufacturers, but that's only part of the gauntlet that brought that product to you. If I buy an item made in China at Walmart, I'm supporting Walmart who's selling it. I'm also supporting the Walmart distribution center that warehoused it, the trucker that brought it to the DC and all the people that support that trucker. I'm also supporting the port dock workers in the San Francisco bay, those who unload it, and the truck driver who transports the shipping container to the initial distribution warehouse. Because manufacturing is one of the cheapest links in this chain and most of the price markup is what happens after the product is manufactured, it really makes little difference.
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No one cares that rich people exists. They do care that increasingly the rich are separating from the poor. There is a serious income gap problem in this country. A large income gap means it's nearly impossible for someone born in a poor family to become super rich. And that IS upsetting. It's not the rich that upsets the poor. It's the lack of opportunity for the poor to become rich. And lack of liability that would cause the rich to become poor in a moral society.
     
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    The so called "wealth gap" statistics in this country are being continually queered by the incessant influx of illegal immigration. It's not that the rich are getting richer, but that the poor are getting poorer. When you have millions of non-english speakers willing to work for tacos (yes I said that), it factors into the lower income scale and makes the gap far bigger than it ought to be. Do you want to shrink the gap? Shut down the borders, guard it with a 2000 mile wall with MG nests every 800 meters, round up the illegals and send them packing. Not only will the poor get richer, but much of our drug problem will disappear as well.

    But my gut tells me you Leftists love things just as they are.
     
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    Completely agree: As a poor man in my own view, I know I am considered rich myself to some.
    Absolutely dissagree, and one of my best friends had this same flawed analogy: we are not supposed to investigate every label of the things we buy or shop for more expensive clothes to make sure they're American. The problem is our government passing laws and regulations, and taxations, making it less attractive to produce here, and then they set up trade agreements with those other nations at the same time. but I have to note, that while oraly this may seem like I'm siding with republicans here, in reality, I am siding against the two party circus. yes, democrats are screwing themselves by voting for idiots who pass these OBSTICLES to manufacture and keep jobs in USA, and republicans are equally dumb not to see past the disguise on television
     
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    I think I have an admierer. he does this all the time
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    I have to wonder about PF's rating system. Johnny-C likes to 'dislike' my posts all the time, but saying that you dislike somebody's post is tantamount to saying you're afraid of it, don't know how to defend against it, you just know it's wrong...somehow. PF might want to take the time to see how other forums have much more sophisticated rating systems, like Political Buddies, http://politicalbuddies.com/ who has about a dozen different ratings so you can find the one that fits best.
     
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    My only beef with the uber rich is a lot of them write, and then break the rules.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    You're WAY off-topic.
     
  13. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    I'll return to the topic of this thread by telling you to quit your (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing
     
  14. Johnny-C

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    Please, be reasonable; wealth is okay and we all want some. But setting up a society where the wealthy are more important than the many... is a recipe for disaster.
     
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    One, you have the opportunity; Facebook, Google, Angry Birds, Windows, these are all products that didn't exist that have made people rich. You don't have to be rich to get rich, you just need A) and idea or B) to try.

    Two why does it matter if someone has billions while you only have thousands? So what? You eat right? You have entertainment right? You can pay for whatever you need and, perhaps with some saving, buy almost anything you want right? Where is the problem? What do you need a BMW rather than a used car that still works? Do you need a Mc Mansion rather than a bungalo? I just don't see the problem. For me so long as I can pay my bills, save some money, and most importantly enjoy my time with my friends what the (*)(*)(*)(*) do I care if someone makes more than me?

    It just comes down to jealousy so far as I can tell because it's the only explanation that makes sense.
     
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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with this. We have an unfortunate situation where those with money are above the law.
     
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    It comes down to power.

    Being wealthy should not (ever) equate to having MORE of a political voice. That undermines a society in the long run.
     
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    They should have a bigger voice because they have more to protect and more people coming after their assetts. Nobody wants your money until you have it...lots of it. Then people try to pass laws to confiscate what's yours. Why do you believe wealthy people can't defend themselves against the forces of coveteousness arrayed against them like a mighty army?
     
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    I never said there was no opportunity. I said it was lacking. And the figures show this. The income gap has been widening for decades now.
     
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    That just doesn't make sense to me. I will just disagree at this point.
     
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    You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. And here, I have somebody trying to convince me that the "wealthy" need MORE voice and protection.

    That's just nuts, in my view.
     
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    Because you're part of the aformentioned forces. You think you have a right to go after money that isn't yours and those who have that money have no right to defend themselves against you.

    You're wrong. Legally and morally.
     
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    I agree but unfortunately that's the reality of the situation. The only way to stop this is to end private donations and have people running for office do so entirely off the government dime. Sounds like a good idea, but answer this; how do you decide who and who does not get funding? In the end the system currently is as fair as can be. Money certainly is a political power, but what's our other option, let government decide who does and does not get funding? There is no way I could support that. I'm open to other ideas.
     
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    You can't just call it whining every time someone tells you something that you don't want to hear. The sound of a person trying to explain that too much wealth disparity will cause a decrease in the standard of living for the people with less wealth may be annoying in your ear, but it's not whining. It's just a truth that some people would rather dismiss.
     
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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The income gap is a worthless measure. It doesn't matter if the people above can buy space stations so long as the people below are still living a good life.
     

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