Fake Polls for Obama try to alter Majority Polls for Romney

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    A few Fake Polls for Obama try to alter vote for Romney win or tie seen in Most Polls

    6 last RCP Polls give Romney win or tie. Only 2 Fake Polls to Obama...


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    ATTENTION !

    Scandalous CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS in grossly Manipulative Pseudo-"Polls", alone to boast with pro-Obama, obviously Exagerated Claims, persist dangerously, (f.ex. at RCP's website, etc), attempting to provoke False Impressions to the People,

    and pushing aside all converging Conclusions of all Mainstream, independent, serious and experiences, well-known Political Polls' Organizations, who, on the contrary, Extend even Today, their Prognostics of either a Romney Win, or a "Tie" :

    Indeed, even TODAY (Nov. 6), Another Shady Pseudo"Pollster" from the Genetic Manipulations' Medical Big Business Lobby, with obvious CONFLICT OF INTEREST, makes Exagerated Propaganda for Obama at RCP's website on Polls' Average, candalously Disfiguring all Mainstream, well known, Independent political Polls' Organizations' unanimous Conclusions that, on the contrary, Romney either Wins against Obama, or has a "tie" (see above) !

    Facts :

    - Also for November 5, another +2 Mainstream Polls' organizations again found that Romney either wins against Obama with a clear + 1% margin, or has at least a "Tie", (see "Rasmussen" and "Politico" new polls).

    + This is added to another +4 earlier mainstream political Polls' Organizations, ("Opinion Research, Braun, Rasmussen and Gallup"), who had already concluded, for the period including Nov. 4, that, indeed, Romney either wins or has a tie, (See our previously published post).
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    + But, apparently someone is afraid of the Truth, and playing gross MANIPULATION games with the People, at the eve of US Presidential Election !

    Here are the main Facts :


    (A) Someone curiously rushed to CHANGE the initial Data published at RCP's website at first, on the Nov. 1 - 4 period that we examined, (See the initially published Screenshot),

    + by Adding also another, Differend Poll, (that he/she inserted in the same Nov. 1-4 period) ...immediately (in only a few Minutes !) AFTER we started to publish this Text at the Internet ! (2nd, later Screenshot = available too).


    (B) Moreover, this Delayed, Differend Poll, appears very Suspect, probably False, Inaccurate or otherwise Misleadingly Misrepresented, as if it was added in a hurry only in order to Manipulate by Provoking False Impressions :

    - (i) It is the ONLY ONE (1), out of FIVE (5) Polls on the Nov. 1-4 period which -CONTRARY TO ALL OTHER FOUR (4) Polls which give either a + 1% WIN for Romney or a "tie" with Obama (See above), it grossly claims, with an obvious EXAGERATION, to give Obama a ... + 3 % lead !!!...

    - (ii) This obviously "Lonely" Pollster, who was added Later in order to Contradict the experienced, mainstream CNN, Gallup, Braun and Rasmussen (See our -and RCP's- initial text), is only an obscure office with the totally unknown denomination of a so-called : ..."Abt-SRBI" (sic !) , ...

    (which would, reportedly, have called some People in their Fixed and Cell-Phones, from somewhere in ["Dr. Frankenstein/Sandy" Storm striken] "New York", i.e. there where some Local Politicians in Public Offices would have endorsed Obama previously, and are awaiting now for Federal Funds to be urgently Paid after the Hurricane)...

    - (iii) Most important : Even from its own NUMBERS it appears that this Delayed, Lonely and Exagerated Claim with which it Concludes, should be BLATANTLY FALSE !, as its Conclusion contardicts its own permisses....

    F. ex., in fact, for the 4 Days Period under consideration, Nov. 1 - 4 (Comp. above), it claims : 49%, 48%, 48% and 47% for Romney, i.e. an Average of 48 %, and a 48%, 48%; 49% and 50% for Obama, i.e. an Average of just 48,7%, => that is to say, only a comparatively SMALL Difference of merely + 0,7% !....

    Compared to the Many other, (FOUR : 4) Opposite Polls, which all give either a "Tie", or a clear Win for Romney with a full + 1 % (See above), naturally, this Lonely, Obscure and Tiny claim of only + 0,7 for Obama in just One out of Five Polls, is too SMALL...


    + Moreover, someone obviously LIED, since he/she published on RCP's Website (after our Posts at the Forum), on the Contary, the Grossly Exagerated Claim that Obama would be leading, during the Period of "1 - 4/11", with ... + 3 %, (i.e. more than + 400 % of what really results from its own Numbers : only + 0,7%), giving a FALSE average of 47% - 50%,(instead of 48,7% - 48%) !

    => I.e. (in Addition to that Delayed, last-minute Change, surprisingly IMMEDIATELY AFTER our publication at the Forum, based on RCP's Initial website data : See initial Screenshot), someone grossly LIED even ON the CONCLUSION that he/she published on his/her own Data !...
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    (C) >>> But, the real Scandal of such gross Attempts to Muzzle Political Opposition (See f.ex. "Rocheteau"'s gross Insults and Personal Aggressions, apparently coming from a Minority of French "Socialists" linked to Obama, etc) and to Grossly Manipulate Public Opinion at the eve of crucial US Presidential Elections, is even BIGGER :

    Indeed, Facts prove that this Controversial pro-Obama Pollster, is linked to Medical Research lobbies, and has already made gross Propaganda for controversial .."ObamaCare", even for Human Embryo Genetic Manipulation, and other Obama's relevant main measures !

    >>> This Lone, Late, Contradictory and obviously Exagerating Pollster, who is Alone to find Obama winning with a .. "+ 3% " margin (sic !), against FOUR (4) mainstream Polling Organizations (Opinion Research, Rasmussen, Braun, Gallup), which all find, on the Contrary, Romney either Winning by a + 1% margin Obama, or being "Tied", is an obsure, "2010-founded", office by a Former ABC staffer, (now working also for NY Mayor Bloomberg who reportedly backs Obama, while awaiting Federal Funds to urgently face "Dr. Frankenstein/Sandy" Hurricane damages), who is based on the services provided by an unknown to the large Public, "Abt-SRBI" entity, (also based at NY), which depends from an "ABT" Corporation, specialized mainly on Health Reform Policies and Medical Research in the US and Worldwide (f.ex. for Virus' Epidemics and Vaccines, as the Deadly 2009 Obama Virus Scare, which spread from California to Mexico threatening also many other Countries !), in frequent cooperation withe the Federal US Government (led by Obama) and other Public, Research or Business entities.

    Thus, it's not a surprise that "ABT-SDRI" has repeatedly claimed to find in several so-called "surveys" that Obama's Health Care Reforms would have been supported by a Majority, according to it...

    Moreover, that same Strange Pollster "ABT-SDRI" made an obviously Exagerated Propaganda for the waste of Federal Funds to ethically controversial Genetic Manipulations on Human Embryos, Dangerous for all Humankind, (the ONLY Obama Promisse that he hurried up to fullly realize since Mars 2009 !), by claiming, during the 2008 US Presidential Elections, that ... Obama's controversial move to cancel former USPresident GWBush's August 2001 prohibition of Federal Funding for such dangerous Genetic Manipulations of Human Embryos, would be supported (according to its strange views) by no less than ... 73% of the population !..

    At another, most Recent example, that same "ABT-SDRI" Obama-lover, didn't hesitate to announce, even in Public, in just One and SAME DAY (last October), that Obama's Administration had just given to it a 16,5 Millions $ worth Contract (f.ex. via the US Federal Education Department, etc), and that, according to its own Findings, Obama would be leading Romney in the crucial Ohio State with .. "more than 5%" (sic) !...

    As a well known Moto goes, "You are better served by Yourself"...

    => Such Blatant CONFLICTS OF INTEREST should be Severely Punished in any real Democracy, and the People must obviously be Timely Protected against such Gross Manipulations !
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    => As far as we are concerned, the MAIN point about Recent Polls for Nov. 1-4, remains that for almost all of them, (and the comparatively more reliable : See Facts cited above), Romney either Wins, or is "tied" to Obama.
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    + (D) However, even Today, against the Unanimity of SIX (6) mainstream, independent political Polls' Organizations, which all give Romney a Win or a "Tie", (see above),

    it's anew only one (1) differend, marginal, shady and bizarre outsider, who, suddenly, interfers on Nov. 5, claiming that, on the Contrary, that Obama would be winning and even at an obviously exagerated, wider margin...

    But, (as we've already found, revealed and denounced for in a similar, "lonely", shady exception of another such marginal and suspect pseudo-"Pollster" who had interfered, at the last minute, by being ALONE to claim that Obama would have an obviously exagerated Score, Contrary to the findings of all other, mainstream Pollsters, for the period including Nov. 4, : See above),

    in fact, also this, Nov. 5, shady "Exception" (the ONLY ONE with pro-Obama claims), after Enquiry, appears to be another Scandalous attempt to grossly Manipulate the People, even the same Day of Crucial Nov. 6, 2012 US Presidential Election, by obviously Exagerated and/or False Claims,

    from a Marginal Outsider, who (once again), depends from a Lobby linked to Obama's controversial "HealthCare Reform" and decision to waste Federal Funds for unethical Genetic Manipulations on Human Embryos, dangerous for all Humankind, which were recently proved to be also counter-productive and even useless, at least for Human Health, which reveal another blatant CONFLICT OF INTERESTS :

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    That obscure "IBD - TIPP" (sic !) isolated pro-Obama Poll, is linked to a strange Website with Adds selling relations to some Asian "Ladies" from Hong Kong, etc., who are presented as "Never Married" or even "Divorced" (See Screenshots !),...

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    and is controlled by a so-called "TechnoMetrica" outlet, founded and directed by a Mr. RAGHAVAN MAYUR, who boasts to hold a Bachellor degree from .. "Pilani, INDIA" (who knows where is that ?) dated from 1980, to which he added, ...... Seven (7) Years later, a Masters "in Environmental engineering" at New Jersey (famous Host of many Human Embryos and other Genetic Data "Banks" and Lobbies !), who had been Paid, in the Past, for a Job as ..."BIO-statistician with the university of MEDICINE and DENTISTRY (sic !) of New Jersey", and is proud of his "contributions in the MEDICAL area", f.ex. "in Clinical INFECTIOUS DISEASES" (similar to the ...Obama-Scare Deadly 2009 VIRUS Epidemics, which spread from a California Labo to Mexico, etc), as he claims himself, and seems alone to work with a certain Miss "Sherlock" (without "Holms"..), boasting to hold a Master (always from New Jersey ; see above) on "PSYCHOLOGY", with TIPP's "Clients" being f.ex. a Bio-Medical Lobby as "Abbot Laboratories", No 1 in their list, (whose CEO describes as "a Multi-National enterprise and a broad-based MEDICAL Innovator, ..in Technologies and Businesses across the spectrum of HEALTH CARE", with the "goal...to advance MEDICAL Science" only). To such "TIPP"s "Clients" are added also an Institute for Heavily Handicaped persons and the "American DENTAL Association", etc., while it also claims to be a Specialist of "BIO-statistics, EPIDEMIOLOGICAL research, PSYCHOLOGY, "DataBase management", (f.ex. for the notorious New Jersey-based HumaN Embryo and other Genetic Data "Bases" serving the Genetic Manipulations' Lobby : comp. above),etc., betraying once again, a Strikingly Similar to the other, earlier "Nov. 4" shady Lonely pro-Obama Pollster, profile of obvious CONFLICT OF INTERESTS with the Expensive "Obama-Health-Care Reform" and his "Federal Funds for Genetic Manipulations of Human Embryos", Big Lobbies, (comp. above)..
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    >>> All these Facts, taken all together, obviously reveal Scandalous ATTEMPTS TO HIDE -and/or DIVERT far away from) THE TRUTH on the Main Issues, in order to MANIPULATE THE PEOPLE, (by any means, including Gross Insults, Personal Attacks, provocation of Troubles, Fake/Exagerated Polls, etc) at the eve of the Crucial 2012 US Presidential Election.-

    => Indeed, numerous such astonishingly converging FACTS (cited here and previously) clearly indicate that a Minority of shady Big Money/Power Interests is obviously attempting to grossly Manipulate the American People at the eve and even during the Day of the crucial Nov. 6, 2012 US Presidential Election !

    No Mystery about which Big Lobbies did they came from, and where did they go, those more than 700 Millions $ and 1 BILLION $ paid by "Private Donors" to Obama's Electoral Campaigns on 2008 and 2012, respectively, totalling the Biggest Amount of Money ever given to any Candidate in America's History !

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    (Comp. also : http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...-will-obama-end-he-began-mr-catastrophes.html )

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    << Campaigning the Obama Way: If You Can’t Earn Their Votes, Trick ‘Em

    Posted on November 6, 2012 by Greg Campbell

    Elections are to be won, and I am not naïve to believe that on either campaign, every action taken has been an example of good-natured competition. Both Obama and Romney want to win, and they’re not above tweaking the perception of the other- such is the face of modern politics. However, what makes the left truly unique is that while the Obama Campaign plays the kind of dirty politics that makes Joe Kennedy look like a choir boy, they simultaneously attempt to retain some mistaken sense of moral superiority.

    Since his administration has zero accomplishments to tout, I can admit that Obama has created a campaign that has done very much with very little to talk about. However, it seems like Obama has one more trick up his sleeve…

    Recently, New York Times bestselling author Brad Thor spoke with The Blaze and claimed that a “very reliable” source in Chicago stated that the Obama Campaign intends to preemptively announce victory in the presidential election to discourage Romney supporters from voting for a “lost cause.”

    (.../...)


    Campaigning the Obama Way: If You Can
     
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    Concerning THE MAIN POINT developed at our Thread (see above), converging indications on the Results, apparently corroborate the Scandalous Fact that some obviously Fake "Polls" may have INFLUENCED the Final Outcome of the 2012 US Presidential Election, (particularly by "Discouraging" GOP's Supporters to Vote), AS WE (and several Other People : f.ex. the "Tea Party", already 2 Days before the Vote !) had WARNED ! .. (See above).

    => That's precisely what "SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY" means...

    Former Brittish "Socialist" Prime Minister BLIAR and his notorious Spin-doctor Cronies had already played such Dirty Tricks at the Eve of the 2005 UK Elections, scandalously Bombarding the People with a lot of grossly False Polls which claimed that his Labour Party was going to win with a Huge Margin of even more than .. 5%, 10% or 12%, so that, finally, a few Conservative supporters fell to that Sly Trap and did NOT go to Vote, (Manipulated by that scandalous Mediatic balderdash), so that Mr. Bliar managed to usurpate that 2005 Election with only ... less than ONE (1) % !...

    (and even most of that, seems to have been obtained also by Frauds on Votes cast by Mailing through the Post, by procurations, etc., as it was denounced and found later-on, by an official investigation)..

    => When this gros Scandal was revealed, after the Vote, Many among the Opposition lodged various Complaints (in National, Regional, European, International and other Official Organizations) against such Fraud(s), several of whom were afterwards found Justified, after independent Investigations. Meanwhile, this and other Scandals and parallel developments pushed Mr. Bliar to QUIT from his job, shortly afterwards !...


    >>> + ADDED also to the Strange Incident of that "Dr. Frankenstein/Sandy" Exceptional Hurricane which notoriously hit most crucial "Swing" States close to the Eastern Coast at the Eve of this 2012 US Presidential Election, (See : http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/pol...-will-obama-end-he-began-mr-catastrophes.html ), Facts obviously look too Nasty for this dubious vote,

    (which was, moreover, decided, at the crucial Ohio + Florida States with a small, TINY displacement of Less than .. 0,9% or 0,3% of the Local Voters, (naturally too Easy to provoke by 1 or 2 last-minute Manipulations)...
     
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    Apparently the "fake" polls weren't fake.
     
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    This is a great example of denial. The Right cannot accept defeat. YOU LOST! L.O.S.T accept defeat and STOP CRYING ALREADY. one has to lose.
    NO FIXING, NO RIGGING, NO POLLING CAUSED THIS. POLLS? FORGET THE POLLS YOU LOST THE ACTUAL VOTE. The polling was correct even Fox News accept this fact. The republicans need to stop finger pointing SORE LOSERS!. Pick up yourself and rethink your strategy for the next election. This one is over.

    Looks pathetic to be crying a week after. GET OVER THE LOSS.
     
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    I wonder how that crow tastes for the OP? ROTFLMAO!
     
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    Cluster, while I'd love to be able to blame Romney's loss on anything else, the facts point to Romney and/or his campaign people were the ones fooled. Twelve million people don't just set out an election (not including 10M new voters in 4 years), allowing what's been documented as the worst economy for an incumbent, since the 1930's and win. Frankly, Romney couldn't even equal McCain's 2008 vote count, falling short 2 million and there's no fake polls, influence or IMO fraud, that can account for those numbers.
     

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