Texas nationalist Would Like to Secede Now

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  1. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    im keeping a close eye on statements like this from groups that are red, and maybe they can start communicating between each others to start a secession spring .


    http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/11/texas_nationalist_movement_wou.php
    http://www.texasnationalist.com/index.php/info/news/featured/1901-official-statement-on-election
     
  2. liberalminority

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    Secession has to be approved by congress, and Texas being one of the few republican states along with Alaska who contribute to national budget since they sit on oil reserves, are not going to leave without a fight from the federal government.
     
  3. Junior_Beauchamp

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    Not for Texas, it is still the Republic of Texas, having retained that and the right to secede as a condition when it joined the US as a state.
     
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  5. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so if we get together 9 states together we don't need the congresses approval to write up a new Constitution?.
    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article07/
     
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    Even if any of this were practical, they won't survive selling their oil with sanctions by the United States. They will be treated like Iran and forced back into the union.
     
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    If it actually happened you'd see the largest migration of mammals outside africa.
     
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    No, Texas was CONQUERED during the US Civil War by the Union.
     
  9. Brewskier

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    Texas is majority Hispanic. Those anchor babies are going to grow up and start voting Democrat, and then Texas will no longer be a red state.
     
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    No it doesn't. That's a myth. Texas has the right to be broken into a number of smaller states.
     
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    I say give Texas back to the Mexicans.
     
  12. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    but then us military would have to fight the national guard in texas, since its controlled by the Texas state governor.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Military_Forces
    http://science.howstuffworks.com/national-guard.htm
    [video=youtube;1t5YsBGqNcY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t5YsBGqNcY[/video]
     
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    Actually, that's incorrect. If you're going to post "facts," make sure they're correct first.

    http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/chs/popdat/ST2012.shtm
     
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    If Texas attempted to secede, the Texan economy would disintegrate overnight. It is heavily built upon US government contract. A large portion of wealth in Texas comes from military bases, businesses that cater to military members, and companies the build things for the US government.
     
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    This secession (*)(*)(*)(*) is such baloney. The state government, even in Texas, is not stupid enough to secede from the union, it's all a right wing fantasy,
     
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    but what if most of those bases there military men /women just go along with Texas and just say there nationalized, what can the us states really do? other then military force to bring them back.
     
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    They are correct

    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/48000.html (2011)

    Population, 2011 estimate - 25,674,681
    Persons of Hispanic or Latino Origin, percent definition and source info Persons of Hispanic or Latino Origin, percent, 2011 (b) - 38.1% (9,782,053)
    White persons not Hispanic, percent definition and source info White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2011 - 44.8% (11,502,257)

    This was 2011. In 2012 you can expect more Hispanics and about the same amount of whites. Add an estimated 1.7 million illegals in Texas, and Hispanics are the majority.

    If you're going to attempt to post "rebuttals", make sure they're correct first.
     
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    Wrong!

    The world will still buy Texas oil, especially the Chinese and Indians.
     
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    The census includes illegal immigrants. Best get your facts correct before you post...again.
     
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    You really think huge portions of the US military would forget their home states, renounce their citizenship, and turn traitor?

    I'm not even active duty anymore and if Texas seceded, I would be on Ft Sam within 30 minutes to rejoin and fight to save the union.

    You also think the US government will sit by and let hundreds of billions in property get stolen...ahem "nationalized"?

    Texas would be blockaded inside of a week.
     
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    No. They'll side with the Constitution and US laws, which says that states can't secede.

    The person who sits in the White House is insignificant in that regard.
     
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    If they do it soon, they could even have Obama visit and bow to them.
     

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