Texas, secede!

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  1. FixingLosers

    FixingLosers New Member

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    Nay! Nay I tell you! Texas is the biggest republican state, if they leave the USA will be democratic forever! Doom!
     
  3. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I'm more worried about having a hostile country filled with religious fanatics and a ton of military bases at our southern border.
     
  4. Dave1mo

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    Texas wouldn't survive without a federal government; it's the welfare queen of states.

    "Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched."
     
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    The majority of people would very likely migrate OUT of the seceding state; because most sane/reasonable people KNOW the value and stability of being part of a collection of UNITED STATES.

    All of that ridiculous mental energy some are putting into thoughts of "seceding "... would be better expended upon IMPROVING their "State".
     
  6. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Maybe you coul send all the religious fruitcakes, homophobes, Islamophobes and mysoginists to Texas and build a great big wall around it, put big windows in the wall and charge normal people $20 a shot to gawp at the loonies! Might be a nice little earner for tourist dollars!:love:
    'Tonight, for one night only (because we don't fancy his chances much), we present, Pastor Merle the Snake Handler' :floating:
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep. Surely.
     
  9. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    If texas broke free mexico would be texas. so yes.
     
  10. Dave1mo

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    Nobody wants to comment on the welfare status of Texas?
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I would but no-one else wants to make sicken.
     
  13. Captain America

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    Yes, Texas. Please do.

    No argument here.

    Sooner the better.
     
  14. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Texas went I suspect other free states would follow....OK, Utah, Idaho, and perhaps more of the south.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you mean Mexico or just the cartels?
     
  16. Dave1mo

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    How will Texas survive without a federal government bailing them out?
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Well, given that... heck yeah. Give them independence. Plus, they'd serve as an excellent buffer for illegal Mexican immigration.
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    That could work too, although I'd prefer if they gave me time to move first.
     
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    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

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    They would send all their welfare dregs to live with you.
    Besides, with out the feds taking money away from them, and no longer being restricted by federal regulation on drilling, Texas would become the 5th largest economy within two years.

    Oh, and they got the 25,000 signatures they needed to force a White House response.

    http://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/70-Texas-did-it
     
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    Err... Nukes.

    Texas. Has. Nukes.

    That's not okay. That can't secede. I'd rather not have a hostile and crazy southern neighbor that has nuclear weapons at their disposal.
     
  21. Dave1mo

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    They're going to send their...legislators and governor to live with us? Those are the welfare queens, bud.
     
  22. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Simple...as Texas will no longer be paying Federal taxes, they will have more than enough to pay for their own governance.

    Texas pays $225 BILLION to the feds every year...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state

    Texas gets 91 cents in benefits for every dollar in taxes provided to the feds...

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/is-your-state-a-net-giver-or-taker-of-federal-taxes/

    So, if Texas made no change at all except to where current taxes are sent, Texas has an immediate budget surplus without reducing a single existing benefit. As Texas is not a devote of socialism, I expect many federal mandates would simply go away.

    They would not have to pay benefits to illegals for one thing. They could actually build that border wall. They could drill for natural resources without the lefts permission...
     
  23. Dave1mo

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    They've already proven they can't balance a budget; what makes you think they'd be able to on their own?
     
  24. FixingLosers

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    SOURCE, please?
     
  25. FixingLosers

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    Why do you despise Mexico? Is it because a lot of Mexicans in the US, although they do not have insurance and benefit of any kind, work 10 times harder than you?
     

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