Hamas Fire Rockets => Israel Reacts => Arabs & Useful Idiots Whine

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  1. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Seriously?

    It's pretty simple from where I'm sitting...

    Hamas, or other extremist groups on which Hamas isn't cracking down upon, is firing rockets into Israel.

    About a million Israeli citizens -- jews, muslims, christians, women, children, men, straights, gays, etc. -- had to flee into bunkers or other sorts of facilities that provided sufficient safety against the Palestine rockets.

    Israel, which can't allow such a farce to take place -- reacts in a responsible way by bombing state assets in the Gaza strip.

    War isn't pretty, it never is.

    When the main objective of Hamas is to fire rockets into Israel, at will -- the only possible parameter is that they hope they will cause as much damage as possible (material and non-material).

    I'm not interested in time tables, history or whatever.

    I think it is pretty clear for every fair-minded person to realize that Hamas here is in the wrong, and Israel has every right to react and to defend itself.

    The Israeli military objective has to be that no rockets could be fired into Israel any longer, and normal life can take up pace again.

    The civilian objective, however, has to be that Palestinians in the Gaza strip no loger support a para-political group that doesn't have their best interest at heart, to name names: Hamas.
     
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    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel has launched over 200 airstrikes last night. The IDF has massed troops and armor on the border with Gaza and closed 3 roads into Gaza. 75 thousand reserves are being called up. And the morons in Hamas continue to fire rockets at Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

    I predict an invasion of Gaza within the next few days.
     
  3. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    No land invasion should happen, it will only strenghten Hamas...

    Arabs aren't the smartest people around...
     
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    Israelis `bout ready to go in an' put the hurt to Hamas...
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    U.S. fears Israel-Hamas conflict escalates to ground invasion
    November 16th, 2012 - The major concern of the United States in the current Israeli-Hamas conflict is a potential Israeli ground incursion into Gaza, U.S. officials said Friday.
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    Obama warns against 'ramping up' in Gaza crisis
    Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012 — President Barack Obama said Sunday an incursion by Israel's forces into the Gaza Strip could only deepen its death toll, cautioning against an escalation even as he defended the Jewish state's right to defend itself. Obama also warned Palestinians the crisis could crush peace hopes for years.
     
  5. Roy L

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    It's a mistake to assume Hamas's goals have any relation to the welfare of the Palestinian people.
     
  6. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny says, "Dat's right - dey keep flingin' dem missiles at Israel...
    :grandma:
    CNN Poll: 57% of Americans say Israeli attacks in Gaza are justified
    November 19th, 2012 - A majority of Americans say that Israel's current military strikes against Gaza are justified, according to a new national survey.
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    Israel bombing kills militant in Gaza Strip
    Nov 19,`12 -- Israeli aircraft struck crowded areas in the Gaza Strip and killed a senior militant with a missile strike on a media center Monday, driving up the Palestinian death toll to 100, as Israel broadened its targets in the 6-day-old offensive meant to quell Hamas rocket fire on Israel.
     
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    The OP is forgetting about the thousands of woman and children that have been murdered by Israeli soldiers as their "relocate" Muslims so Israeli settlers can steal their homes.
     
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    The bodies of four children wrapped in Palestinian flags were carried above a huge crowd from the rubble of their home, destroyed in an Israeli air strike, to their graves on Monday amid mounting anger over the sharply rising toll of civilians in the six-day-old war in Gaza.

    Bulldozers, which were clearing concrete and twisted metal from the site of the Dalou family's home in the hope of finding two bodies still trapped beneath the ruins, stopped work to allow the funeral procession to pass.

    "Do these children look like terrorists?" asked grief-stricken relatives and neighbours of the dead. Eight members of the Dalou family, including four children aged between one and seven, were killed when a missile struck their three-storey home at around 2.30pm on Sunday. Two family members are still missing, and two neighbours were also killed.


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/mid.../19/israel-gaza-hamas-rocket-fire-idf-bombing
     
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    Four dead Palestinian children murdered by Israel

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  11. Marine1

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    When you are fighting each other, there is bound to be civilian deaths. Are you saying Israel was out to kill these children? I would hope not. When Hamas fired those rockets at Israeli cities they knew Israel would retaliate. They are as much responsible for those kids deaths as Israel is. Unless of course, Israel started it.
     
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    You have shown on various threads that you know nothing about the time tables or history of the conflict, so your opinion is not based on any form of intellectual study of the events that bring us to this point in time but you believe that you can attribute blame without knowledge and this is why you cannot be taken seriously.
     
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    When you are fighting each other, there is bound to be civilian deaths. Are you saying Israel was out to kill these children? I would hope not. When Hamas fired those rockets at Israeli cities they knew Israel would retaliate. They are as much responsible for those kids deaths as Israel is. Unless of course, Israel started it.
     
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    Then you have no right to speak on this issue, because the history is not only relevant. It's essential.

    Israel has to acknowledge that, while some of its actions in defense of its country may have been justified, that country was basically founded by forcibly removing arabs from their homes. They can't expect arabs to get over that. Would you just let that go?

    The only solution is one state. Grant every Palestinian Israeli citizenship.
     
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    They are the ones who shot a missile into their home and murdered them.
     
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    Hamas said they would stop firing the rockets if Israel opens the border. But they have fired over a 1,000 rockets into Israel. If they can make or get that many rockets into Gaza with a closed border, how many bigger ones would they get in with an open one?
     
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    From what I read, they targeted the homes of Hamas leaders. Did they know there was children in them? Shouldn't have Hamas expected Israel would go after them for firing hundreds of rockets into Israel? Wouldn't you if in their place, send your children off to a safer place knowing the possibility of a strike against you?
     
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    No they said they would stop firing if Israel lifted its blockade. That is the blockade that they have on Gaza which includes its airspace,its coast and its border. Palestinian fishermen get shot at on a regular basis if they go more than 3 miles off shore of their own coast,Israel agreed to a limit of many more miles before but has now decided that Palestinians in Gaza do not need fish to eat.Israel has murdered thousands of Palestinians, rocket attacks from Gaza have killed 21 Israelis.Israel places many restrictions on things going into Gaza and has even been proven to be putting Gazans on a strict diet by only allowing them just enough calories to survive, this is Israeli state policy btw. But you support all this.
     
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    Israel have been shelling Gaza from the sea and the last time I looked they were not that accurate.Israel have murdered babies here and many more civilians and you support that it seems.
     
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    If you don't like getting stung by hornets, do you think the best approach is to poke their nest with a stick?

    "When peace comes, we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons." -- Golda Meir
     
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    Golda Meir..land stealer and thief,sorry but you are wasting your time posting up quotes from criminals
     
  22. janpor

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    Looks like they were killed by Palestinian rockets from where I'm sitting...

    (In other words: pics mean nothing.)
     
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    You can't be that accurate firing guns from the sea. You can with guided missiles and bombs.

    No, I don't support killing on either side. Don't think for one minute that the Pals are not hoping to kill as many Jews as they can with those rockets. That is their intent in firing so many over. They just aren't as accurate. You can bet if they were, they would hit every populous center they could. Kids or no kids.
     
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    I will say this much, Israel doesn't help matters stealing Palestine land in the West Bank. How can she possibly expect peace when she does that? But on the other side, how can she trust Palestinians when they have vowed to destroy her and have never backed off that? The two sides just will not give an inch to the other, so the killings go on and on.
     

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