From the Ugarit to the Bible

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    Ugarit was around 6,000 years BC.... Its in Syria on the coast. This is a fascinating article. Here's an excerpt.

    The Ugaritic Pantheon.

    The prophets of the Old Testament rail against Baal, Asherah and various other gods on nearly every page. The reason for this is simple to understand; the people of Israel worshipped these gods along with, and sometimes instead of, Yahweh, the God of Israel. This Biblical denunciation of these Canaanite gods received a fresh face when the Ugaritic texts were discovered, for at Ugarit these were the very gods that were worshipped.

    El was the chief god at Ugarit. Yet El is also the name of God used in many of the Psalms for Yahweh; or at least that has been the presupposition among pious Christians. Yet when one reads these Psalms and the Ugaritic texts one sees that the very attributes for which Yahweh is acclaimed are the same for which El is acclaimed. In fact, these Psalms were most likely originally Ugaritic or Canaanite hymns to El which were simply adopted by Israel, much like the American National Anthem was set to a beer hall tune by Francis Scott Key. El is called the “father of men”, “creator”, and “creator of the creation”. These attributes are also granted Yahweh by the Old Testament.

    For instances, read KTU 1. 2 I 13-32 and compare it to many of the Psalms. Also, read Ps 82:1, 89:6-8mn!).

    In 1 Kings 22:19-22 we read of Yahweh meeting with his heavenly council. This is the very description of heaven which one finds in the Ugaritic texts. For in those texts the “sons of god” are the sons of El.

    Other deities worshipped at Ugarit were El Shaddai, El Elyon, and El Berith. All of these names are applied to Yahweh by the writers of the Old Testament. What this means is that the Hebrew theologians adopted the titles of the Canaanite gods and attributed them to Yahweh in an effort to eliminate them. If Yahweh is all of these there is no need for the Canaanite gods to exist! This process is known as assimilation.

    Besides the chief god at Ugarit there were also lesser gods, demons, and goddesses. The most important of these lesser gods were Baal (familiar to all readers of the Bible), Asherah (also familiar to readers of the Bible), Yam (the god of the sea) and Mot (the god of death). What is of great interest here is that Yam is the Hebrew word for sea and Mot is the Hebrew word for death! Is this because the Hebrews also adopted these Canaanite ideas as well? Most likely they did.

    One of the most interesting of these lesser deities, Asherah, plays a very important role in the Old Testament. There she is called the wife of Baal; but she is also known as the consort of Yahweh! That is, among some Yahwists, Ahserah is Yahweh’s female counterpart! Inscriptions found at Kuntillet ‘Ajrud (dated between 850 and 750 BCE) say:

    I bless you through Yahweh of Samaria,

    and through his Asherah!

    And at ‘El Qom (from the same period) this inscription:

    Uriyahu, the king, has written this.

    Blessed be Uriyahu through Yahweh,

    and his enemies have been conquered

    through Yahweh’s Asherah.

    That Yahwists worshipped Asherah until the 3rd century before Christ is well known from the Elephantine Papyri. Thus, for many in ancient Israel, Yahweh, like Baal, had a consort. Although condemned by the prophets, this aspect of the popular religion of Israel was difficult to overcome and indeed among many was never overcome.

    As had already been mentioned, one of the more important lesser deities at Ugarit was Baal. Baal is described as the “rider on the clouds” in KTU 1.3 II 40. Interestingly enough, this description is also used of Yahweh in Psalm 68:5.

    In the Old Testament Baal is named 58 times in the singular and 18 times in the plural. The prophets protested constantly against the love affair the Israelites had with Baal (cf. Hosea 2:19, for example). The reason Israel was so attracted to Baal was that, first of all, some Israelites viewed Yahweh as a God of the desert and so when they arrived in Canaan they thought it only proper to adopt Baal, the god of fertility. As the old saying goes, “whose land, his god”. For these Israelites Yahweh was useful in the desert but not much help in the land.

    There is one Ugaritic text which seems to indicate that among the inhabitants of Ugarit, Yahweh was viewed as another son of El. KTU 1.1 IV 14 says:

    sm . bny . yw . ilt

    “The name of the son of god, Yahweh.”

    This text seems to show that Yahweh was known at Ugarit, though not as the Lord but as one of the many sons of El.

    Among the other gods worshipped at Ugarit there are Dagon, Tirosch, Horon, Nahar, Resheph, Kotar Hosis, Shachar (who is the equivalent of Satan), and Shalem. The folks at Ugarit were also plagued by a host of demons and lesser gods. The people at Ugarit saw the desert as the place which was most inhabited by demons (and they were like the Israelites in this belief). KTU 1.102:15-28 is a list of these demons.

    One of the most famous of the lesser deities at Ugarit was a chap named Dan’il. There is little doubt that this figure corresponds to the Biblical Daniel; while predating him by several centuries. This has led many Old Testament scholars to suppose that the Canonical prophet was modeled on him. His story is found in KTU 1.17 - 1.19.

    Another creature which has ties to the Old Testament is Leviathan. Isaiah 27:1 and KTU 1.5 I 1-2 describe this beast. Also see Ps 74:13-14 and 104:26.

    5. Worship at Ugarit and in Ancient Israel

    In Ugarit, as in Israel, the cult played a central role in the lives of the people. One of the central Ugaritic myths was the story of Baal’s enthronement as king. In the story, Baal is killed by Mot (in the Fall of the year) and he remains dead until the Spring of the year. His victory over death was celebrated as his enthronement over the other gods (cf. KTU 1.2 IV 10)

    The Old Testament also celebrates the enthronement of Yahweh (cf. Ps 47:9, 93:1, 96:10, 97:1 and 99:1). As in the Ugaritic myth, the purpose of Yahweh’s enthronement is to re-enact creation. That is, Yahweh overcomes death by his recurring creative acts.

    The major difference between the Ugaritic myth and the Biblical hymns is that Yahweh’s kingship is eternal and uninterrupted while Baal’s is interrupted every year by his death (in the Fall). Since Baal is the god of fertility the meaning of this myth is quite easy to understand. As he dies, so the vegetation dies; and when he is reborn so is the world. Not so with Yahweh; for since he is always alive he is always powerful (Cf. Ps 29:10).

    Another of the more interesting aspects of Ugaritic religion which has a parallel in Hebrew religion was the practice of “weeping for the dead”. KTU 1.116 I 2-5, and KTU 1.5 VI 11-22 describe the worshippers weeping over the departed in the hopes that their grief will move the gods to send them back and that they will therefore live again. The Israelites also participated in this activity; though the prophets condemned them for doing so (cf. Is 22:12, Eze 7:16, Mi 1:16, Jer 16:6, and Jer 41:5). Of particular interest in this connection is what Joel 1:8-13 has to say, so I quote it in full:

    Lament like a virgin dressed in sackcloth for the husband of her youth. The grain offering and the drink offering are cut off from the house of the Lord. The priests mourn, the ministers of the Lord. The fields are devastated, the ground mourns; for the grain is destroyed, the wine dries up, the oil fails. Be dismayed, you farmers, wail, you vinedressers, over the wheat and the barley; for the crops of the field are ruined. The vine withers, the fig tree droops. Pomegranate, palm, and apple tree -- all the trees of the field are dried up; surely, joy withers away among the people.

    Yet another interesting parallel between Israel and Ugarit is the yearly ritual known as the sending out of the “scapegoats”; one for god and one for a demon. The Biblical text which relates this procedure is Leviticus 16:1-34. In this text a goat is sent into the wilderness for Azazel (a demon) and one is sent into the wilderness for Yahweh. This rite is known as a “eliminatory” rite; that is, a contagion (in this case communal sin) is placed on the head of the goat and it is sent away. In this way it was believed that (magically) the sinful material was removed from the community.

    KTU 1.127 relates the same procedure at Ugarit; with one notable difference -- at Ugarit a woman priest was involved in the rite as well.

    The rituals performed in Ugaritic worship involved a great deal of alcohol and sexual promiscuity. Worship at Ugarit was essentially a drunken orgy in which priests and worshippers indulged in excessive drinking and excessive sexuality. This because the worshippers were attempting to convince Baal to send rain on their crops. Since rain and semen were seen in the ancient world as the same thing (as both produced fruit), it simply makes sense that participants in fertility religion behaved this way. Perhaps this is why in Hebrew religion the priests were forbidden to partake of wine while performing any rituals and also why females were barred from the precincts!! (cf. Hos 4:11-14, Is 28:7-8, and Lev 10:8-11).

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    Well, if you can't blind them with brilliance, then you can always baffle them with BS...

    It would have been more efficient to provide a link with perhaps a short quoted paragraph coupled with a summary in your own words. Anyway, thanks for the invite to the fishing expedition.

     
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    I thought it would be interesting to explore the connections... because they were there before the Israelites..

    "The ancient Canaanite city-state of Ugarit is of utmost importance for those who study the Old Testament. The literature of the city and the theology contained therein go a very long way in helping us to understand the meaning of various Biblical passages as well as aiding us in deciphering difficult Hebrew words. Ugarit was at its political, religious and economic height around the 12th century BCE and thus its period of greatness corresponds with the entry of Israel into Canaan.

    Why should people interested in the Old Testament want to know about this city and its inhabitants? Simply because when we listen to their voices we hear echoes of the Old Testament itself. Several of the Psalms were simply adapted from Ugaritic sources; the story of the flood has a near mirror image in Ugaritic literature; and the language of the Bible is greatly illuminated by the language of Ugarit. For instance, look at M. Dahood’s brilliant commentary on the Psalms in the Anchor Bible series for the necessity of Ugaritic for accurate Biblical exegesis. (N.B., for a more thorough discussion of the language of Ugarit, the student is advised to take the course titled “Ugaritic Grammar” offered by this institution).

    In short, when one has well in hand the literature and theology of Ugarit, one is well on the way to being able to comprehend some of the most important ideas contained in the Old Testament. For this reason it is worthwhile that we pursue this topic."
     
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    In short, you have provided no evidence and much less proof that the Ugarits are a different people than the Israelites. Yet you continue on with making conclusions that you have not substantiated.
     
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    Based on the Armana letters and many, many clay tablets.. they were not the same people.
     
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    And you are a professional linguist who KNOWS the ancient languages that were used to write those clay tablets?
     
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    Professional linguists have been translating them for about 70 years.
     
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    Do any of those 'professional linguists' KNOW the ancient languages? Even the ancient Hebrew used no vowels yet those 'professional linguists' have seen fit to place vowels into the words to force the words to sound the way those professional linguists want them to sound when spoken. Even they offer no credibility to their art of smoke and mirrors.
     
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    They don't need "spoken language" to translate and decipher...

    This may be easier to understand.

    http://www.adath-shalom.ca/ugarit.htm#history

    It basically gives and outline of the Israelites response to Canaanite culture.
     
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    Uhhh... I thought we were talking about the ugarits. Why the sudden shift from ugarits to Canaanites... ?
     
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    Ugarit was a Cananite city......

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    Well my goodness, the map you show places canaan in the same locality as many other old maps which show that area to be Israel (home of the Hebrews). What happened, did the ugarits die out?
     
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    No.. they came to be called them phoenicians.

    The North coast Canaanites were called Phoenicians by the Greeks and their cities were Tyre, Sidon and Byblos.

    They had many colonies, including Cyprus.
     
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    So now we jump all the way over to Greece to see what the Greeks called the Hebrews which lived in the North coast area of Israel. So many play on words (names). A rose by any other name is still a rose.
     
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    These are north coast Canaanite cities. Even the Jebusites didn't leave Jerusalem. Read your Bible.

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    You are not being very convincing at all. Where are the government records of that time frame that you spoke about?
     
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    The Philistines had five cities. Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north. Ashkelon was called Hieropolis or Bambyce.. and the Bible calls them Israel's enemy.
     
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    Now you are falling back on the Bible as a reference. Government records.... Government records.... Government records.... Where are those government records?
     
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    You are just being a troll..

    There is more than one history of the region.. and one backed by archeology and writings on hundreds and hundreds of clay tablets.
     
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    So, when you get caught making a claim that you cannot validate with government records (records that have no outside interest), then you want to accuse the one who caught you. Well, unfortunately for you, only the moderators can make the official declaration of someone being a troll. Seemingly, you have not kept up with the rules of this forum.
     
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    The Israelites had no government records either.
     
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    Are you certain that there were no government records for the Israelites? What makes you so certain?
     
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    None have been found... but then Jerusalem was destroyed and rebuilt many times in its history.
     
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    Then in essence you are saying that there are no governmental records from that era from any of the subject people that would validate your claims. That would mean that all you have available are the documents (interpretations and translations) from people who might have a vested interest in promoting some agenda that would enhance either their own credibility or the credibility of someone else. Opinions.
     
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    I know there are clay tablet records of tributes paid..
     

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