Woman charged in Firefighter murders

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    Dawn Nguyen will face federal charges in knowingly making a false statement in the purchase of guns in connection with the weapons used in the slayings ... and/or charged with providing materially false information related to the acquisition of firearms ...


    Woman charged in connection with fatal New York firefighter shootings

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...ith-fatal-new-york-firefighter-shootings?lite

    Updated: 4:58 p.m. ET ~ An upstate New York woman was arrested Friday and hit with federal and state charges connected to the fatal shootings of two volunteer firefighters on Christmas Eve.

    The woman, Dawn Nguyen, 24, faces federal charges of knowingly making a false statement in the purchase of guns in connection with the weapons used in the slayings, U.S. Attorney William Hochul told a news conference Friday.

    She was charged earlier on a state violation of filing a falsified business record.

    Hochul said Nguyen bought the guns on behalf of William Spengler, 62, who allegedly shot four firefighters responding to a fire he had started in his home on Monday outside Rochester, N.Y., killing two of them, before killing himself.


    Nguyen "told the seller of these guns, Gander Mountain in Henrietta, that she was to be the true owner and buyer of the guns instead of William Spengler," he said.
    "It is absolutely against federal law to provide any materially false information related to the acquisition of firearms."



    The complaint alleges that Nguyen acted as a "straw purchaser" for Spengler, who, as a convicted felon, could not legally own, acquire or purchase any firearm, he said.
    The charges are related to an AR-15-type semiautomatic rifle and a 12-gauge shotgun — two of the three weapons found near Spengler's body Monday, according to State Police Investigator James Sewell.

    Hochul said that a suicide note left by Spengler "includes information about obtaining the guns" from Nguyen.

    The third weapon, a .38-caliber revolver, was not connected to Nguyen, Sewell said.

    The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle reported that Nguyen was arrested Friday afternoon at the home in Greece where she has been staying with her mother, Dawn Welsher.

    Greece is about 5 miles north of Rochester and 2 miles west of Webster, where Spengler lived.


    Nguyen's lawyer, Dave Palmiere, told the newspaper that Nguyen bought the weapons legally and that they had been stolen.

    He said Nguyen didn't recall whether she reported the guns stolen.

    Welsher told the Democrat and Chronicle that neither she nor her daughter, Nguyen, gave or sold Spengler the weapons.

    "This is nuts," she said, according to the newspaper.
    "I never supplied this man with nothing.
    My daughter never supplied him with anything.
    He's setting us up."



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    More epic gun law fail. The federal gov't gun laws failed this time. The Connecticut gun laws failed in Newtown. The CT assault weapons ban failed, the storage law failed, the age of use law failed, and the gun free zone law failed.


     
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    The 2nd Amendment supercedes any law ... this is what LaPierre and the NRA lobbies for ...
     
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    Who needs laws???

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    That's right ... the founding fathers afforded any and every American to have a gun as your constitutional right ... this is what LaPierre and the NRA lobbies for ... so your problem is what again ?
     
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    Then, the Left is acting in an unconstitutional manner?
     
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    Depends ... LaPierre and the NRA doesn't care what race, creed or income quintile you are ... you get a gun or 5 or 10 if you want one/them ... because the founding fathers said so.
     
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    On what? The endless pragmatism of the Left?
     
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    Sorry dude ... anybody can have a gun ... further, as arsenals unregulated, unregistered & anonymous and illegally ... as is the gist of this OP ... otherwise Lapierre and the NRA would make sure otherwise ...

    It's called *Liberty & Freedom* ... sound familiar ?
     
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    Anybody can have guns. Criminals can easily get one. Law abiding citizens -- sometimes they can, sometimes they can't...


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    Oh, those are the *Well Regulated Militia* the NRA forgets to mention in its' 2nd Amendment *remedies*
     
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    are you seriously telling me you think gang members are part of a "well regulated militia"????

    If so, you are obviously "looney tunes"...

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    Oh, DonGlock can better explain why the NRA only hosts *the right of the people to keep and bear arms must not be infringed* in every utterance ... just don't ask 'em what District of Columbia v. Heller (200eight) ... sought to define as *well-regulated militias* ...
     
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    Conceal carry helps innocent people protect themselves from criminals.

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    Those aren't savage negros .... those are respectable civilized whites like Nancy Lanza.
     
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    Nope,.... Yer Wrong once again( seems to be a pattern),....

    Those are Criminals,... The guys the NRA wants to see put in Jail....

    Ya oughta lay off the drama, 'n do abit of studyin'...
     
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    No sweat ... photochop them into white and we have Harris & Klebold.
     
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    Keep buying those quality firearms! When a time of chaos comes bet the White anti-gunners will
    be flocking for protection from hispanic and negro hordes. Bring it on!
     
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    Actually I'm pretty sure it was some bleeding heart lib who led this guy out of jail after HE BEAT HIS GRANDMOTHER TO DEATH WITH A HAMMER!

    Libs are responsible for most of the violence committed in this country because of their long history of coddling criminals.
     
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    Ah, black Americans get CCW's too. They aren't getting them because the KKK is riding through their neighborhoods. They are getting them because the welfare state has created

    a hyper-violent, self-loathing breed of teen.
     
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    The white liberal college kids forget that the LAPD was pulled out of the LA riots area out of PC concerns.
     
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    At 1989 parole hearing, Spengler wondered if he might kill again

    http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news...ill-again?lite

    Nine years after brutally slaying his 92-year-old grandmother with a hammer, the man who opened fire on volunteer firefighters on Christmas Eve in upstate New York told a parole board in 1989 that he was worried he might kill again if freed, according to court documents.

    “If you were capable of it once, are you capable of it again?" William Spengler wondered out loud at an Oct. 3, 1989, parole hearing, according to state criminal records released by the New York Department of Corrections in the wake of Monday’s shooting.

    "There is no reason why it should have happened,” he told commission members.
    “It makes no sense whatsoever.
    You know, hindsight is a great thing but it does no good."

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