Go figure. An anonymous source with nothing to back up his credentials and with no source for his claim makes an outrageous claim that the Rightwing immediately jumps on.
Obama will be out in four years and there is absolutely nothing he could do to force a situation where that would happen in that short amount of time. Unless he gets another term it will be somebody else in there and I doubt whoever it is will hold his extreme views.
No, I'm sure it's not true but you can be sure that there are people on this forum who will believe ANYTHING as long as it's critical of Obama and will be sufficiently "shocked" at this claim to start endless threads on it into the foreseeable future. I also feel sure that Dr. Garrow is a very dedicated member of the NRA and/or is being very well paid by them to perpetrate this hoax - which certainly supports their call for every citizen to have a stockpile of weapons to protect themselves when the government comes to "tyrannize" them. I see stuff like this and always think I'd be mad as hell if the people on my own side were continually trying to make me look like a "moran" and I would HAVE to wonder at their purpose in doing so.
They're already trained and in place. I already covered that in a prior thread. Hope you're coming around now.
Totally with you on that - no solid source. My question is, why do liberals only check the source when they hear something defaming their own guy? Though what you did just seems like common sense, I didn't even see that much from liberals when they heard stuff about Romney.
America DID check out Romney, and kept the bass turd out. Thank God. Can anyone imagine the sheet we'd be in for had this confirmed elitist been inaugurated yesterday??? I shudder to think of it.
Yeah I only found one link to it and I don't believe it but considering his willingness to kill Americans abroad and the NDAA he and congress passed I must ask if it is in the realm of possibility. He has shown a real disdain for the laws of the land and oversteps his bounds regularly.
Visit the site "oath keepers". Publicizes orders that are not to be obeyed by military and law enforcemtent. Thought provoking.
It seems very unlikely. Just an FYI but that examiner site is basically a blogging site. There doesn't seem to be anything in the way of proof. I would ignore it.
The US military has already identified the US right as 'persons of interest' in terms of likely home grown terrorism. It's not credible to think there aren't plans to take them/you out if you lose the plot and show up armed and ready to start shooting.
It certainly is. It appears that Oathkeepers is the military wing of the Tea Party, the latest incarnation of the militia movement. Fearful ill-informed adherents, conspiracies, paranoid fantasies about tyranny, Glenn Beck. Yep, it's all there. Timothy McVeigh would be proud. http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/oath-keepers-potentially-most-lethal
Obama isn't the dictator here. Its the millions and millions of voters who feel that any right they don't value is unnecessary and must be eliminated for the good of society. Obama won't take your freedom, his voters will. They are the enemy. Our democracy is now a dictatorship of the proletariat.
It's without validation, but I wouldn't totally discount it. The way the economies going, they say things have gotten better, but you can't realistically make any good changes to an economy with the sheer amount of pit-falls it has- occurring in both administrations over a prolonged period of time. (so don't sink into that lib-con food-fight) My guess is that they'll keep the music going a little longer and take all the measures to secure themselves before they turn the lights on and you find out the whole neighborhood is f**ked. Then, there may be some rioting, Greek-style, Spain-style, Britain-style. Riots and huge demonstrations and protests have been occurring all over Europe, and some in the US, but none of it gets much press so it's hard to see the build-up of frustrations that could give reason to the government preparing for civil unrest.
- Obama is allot of horrible things, but a complete fool is not one of them. If this were true, it would be found out sooner or later, and it is clearly an impeachable, remove from office, prosecutable, and prison sentence holding offense. He's just not that stupid. -
The same reason Republicans did it for Bush. Because they are partisan scum who only care about making the other party look bad.
By "militia movement" you mean a bunch of people belonging to gun clubs, and CALL themselves militia, without doing any of the things militia were required to do, during the revolution or civil wars (i.e. fight along side the regulary army, actively guard cities and towns as police. etc...
The guy who started the buzz, you all should check out his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow.1 The question I immediately ask is how did he come into contact with the alleged "foremost military heroes" our country has to offer... whoever that may be since Mr. Garrow isn't naming-names to confirm his allegation. Nevertheless. Take a gander at his page. His "revelation" will make sense in due time. Someone should do a "Best of Jim Garrow" thread.
I doubt Obama would give such an order. And, I doubt anyone in the military who took their oath seriously, would follow such an order.
All the oath keepers state, is as members of law enforcement and the military, they won't violate constitutional rights of Americans. Oh the horror!!
The quality of the source may be debated but question remains for military officers: Will you order your troops to fire on US citizens? Maybe a more important question: Will your troops obey if ordered to fire on US citizens? The first things ring-knocker cadets at West Point learn about giving orders: Never give an order you know will not be obeyed.