When Intellectuals Attack!

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    Here are some prominent intellectuals useful to dictators: film-makers, academics, philosophers, playwrights, journalists, novelists, activists, poets, artists all avid to serve autocrats. Some passed through despair on their way to subservience to some shouting “Superman”. Many diminished man, abetting those who want to abolish rights. Most were anti-Christians/degenerates.

    Nietzsche
    Marx
    Alfred Rosenberg – Nazi ideologue
    Francis Galton – eugenicist
    D.H. Lawrence – semi-Fascist
    W.B. Yeats – enemy of democracy
    Louis-Ferdinand Céline – Nazi collaborator
    Tristan Tzara – Communist
    Wyndham Lewis – admired Fascism
    Sergei Eisenstein – Communist
    Leni Riefenstahl – Nazi propagandist
    F. T. Marinetti – Fascist
    (Many Russian Communist artists were influenced by Marinetti, the Russian Futurists for example.)
    Georges Sorel – glorified violence and inspired Fascists and Marxists
    Walter Lippmann – elitist
    Edward Bernays – propagandist
    Freud – Man was diminished in the pseudo-scientific ravings of this pervert.
    Joseph Goebbels – Nazi propagandist
    H.G. Wells – authoritarian
    Margaret Sanger – eugenicist
    Frederick Lindemann – elitist who delighted in the deaths of civilians during WW II
    Abba Ahimeir – a Zionist who praised Mussolini and Hitler
    J.P. Sartre – served Stalin and Mao
    N. Chomsky – apologist for genocidal Communist dictators
    Martin Heidegger – Nazi
    Lilian Hellmen – Communist
    Bertolt Brecht – Communist tool
    Harold Laski – apologist for Stalin
    Walter Duranty – Stalinist tool
    Ezra Pound – Fascist ally
    Maxim Gorki – Communist lackey
    Ernst Haeckel – prophet of scientific racism
    Gustave Le Bon – manipulator of the mass mind
    Pablo Picasso – Communist
    Gabriele d'Annunzio – proto-Fascist
    Margherita Sarfatti – founding mother of Fascism
    Gertrude Stein – I was surprised to learn she was pro-Petain!
    Lincoln Steffens – praised the Soviet Union
    H.L. Mencken – racist who opposed democracy
    Beatrice and Sidney Webb – apologists for Stalin
    G.B. Shaw – apologist for both Fascists and Communists
    Paul deMan – Influential deconstructionist and Nazi supporter
    Che Guevara – mass killer
    Leon Trotsky – freedom-hating mass murderer

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    EUGENICS AND THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT

    There was a time after WW I when you could be a modernist intellectual, a Fascist, and a Communist all at the same time. And why not? The three are triplets, part of the same family.
     
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    Today many intellectuals embrace abortion and homosexual activists.

    Just like the Nazis: As Many Abortions As Possible

    Astonishing article: The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists

    quote: The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It's time to admit something. Fascism isn't something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at least - a gay thing, and it's time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.
     
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    Here are some quotes from F. T. Marinetti's The Founding and Manifesto of Futurism.

    quote: We affirm that the world’s magnificence has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. A racing car whose hood is adorned with great pipes, like serpents of explosive breath—a roaring car that seems to ride on grapeshot is more beautiful than the Victory of Samothrace.

    quote: We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman.

    Marinetti's fellow atheist Nietzsche inspired Hitler. Here's Hitler admiring history's most famous atheist:

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    quote: Hitler often visited the Nietzsche museum in Weimar and publicized his veneration for the philosopher by posing for photographs of himself staring in rapture at the bust of the great man.

    quote: Finally there was Nietzsche's prophecy of the coming elite who would rule the world and from whom the superman would spring. In The Will to Power he exclaims: "A daring and ruler race is building itself up.... The aim should be to prepare a transvaluation of values for a particularly strong kind of man, most highly gifted in intellect and will. This man and the elite around him will become the 'lords of the earth'." Such rantings from one of Germany's most original minds must have struck a responsive chord in Hitler's littered mind. At any rate he appropriated them for his own--not only the thoughts but the philosopher's penchant for grotesque exaggeration, and often his very words. "Lords of the Earth" is a familiar expression in Mein Kampf.

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    Too many intellectuals are united in their hatred of Christianity, their desire for absolute power, and their determination to exterminate the ”unfit”, the “inferior”.
     
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    The evidence of Heidegger's Nazi-commitments is incontrovertible. Faye is quite right to say that the above is "one of the most indefensible pages of Heidegger." But Faye goes further. Invoking Hitler's speech of 30 January, 1939, in which Hitler warned that world war would mean "the extermination of the Jewish race in Europe," Faye notes that, "this is quite simply the ultimate translation into action of what Heidegger theorizes in 1933" (171, my emphasis). Faye explains: "It is important that we realize that the doctrine of the enemy … , however "ontologized" it may be by Heidegger, is in no form or fashion a simple theoretical view or intellectual game but indeed a radically murderous doctrine, the translation of which into the real world cannot but lead to the war of extermination and the concentration camps" (170, my emphasis). On Faye's view, therefore, Heidegger furnished the theory which necessarily reached its ultimate realization in the Holocaust.

    http://ndpr.nd.edu/news/24316-heidegger-the-introduction-of-nazism-into-philosophy-in-light-of-the-unpublished-seminars-of-1933-1935/
     
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    minus the nazi supporters, you'd be surprised how many on that list in the OP were jewish
     
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    Yea, quite a few are Jewish. Three of the Fascist supporters are Jewish: Margherita Sarfatti, Gertrude Stein, and Abba Ahimeir.

    Ahimeir is also connected to Likud.

    Some Zionists even cooperated with the Nazis: THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST
     
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    Some earlier intellectuals gone bad:

    Thomas Carlyle - in love with "men on horseback"
    Thomas Hobbes - advocate for autocracy
    Rousseau - His concept of the "general will" was dangerous. He inspired Robespierre.
    Voltaire - anti-Semite who happily served brutal monarchs
    Julien Offray de La Mettrie - materialist
    Jeremy Bentham - simple-minded utilitarian
    Hegel - served the State
    Machiavelli - advocate of violence and lies
     
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    To refer to Noam Chomsky as an intellectual is an insult to intellectualism.

    Paul Bogdanor has an outstanding website chronicling that Stalinist charlatan's antics:

    The Chomsky Hoax
    http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomskyhoax.html
     
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    Nice list of respected thinkers.

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    Nice list of respected thinkers.
     
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    Intellectuals can be an even worse disaster when they themselves are the rulers.

    Consider Robespierre
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    And Lenin

    And Woodrow Wilson. Wilson foolishly involved the U.S. in WW I. He used the crisis to centralize power in Washington. The Federal Reserve he set up helped cause the Great Depression. Even Bernanke has admitted the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression!
     
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    'Intellectuals' put forth ideas, and ideas can be used, if they are any good


    If we want to avoid this process, we have to hang all the bosses, which might be difficult! :)
     
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    Swishy Swastikas.
    Goosesteppers Who Like to Goose the Guy in Front of Them
     
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    I don't think there is anything inherently fascistic about gays. I think they may just really feel the uniforms are fabulous.
     
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    Their fake intellectuals if they use oxymoron that way or even if they don't protest against its ignorant use. Intelligent people would know that it means something that looks like a contradiction but really isn't, such as "boneless ribs" or "Kansas City, Missouri." The way you use it is the opposite. You think it is something that looks logical, but that you claim is a contradiction. Truly educated people, which unfortunately doesn't mean school-educated, would know that the way you use it is called a "contradiction in terms," not an "oxymoron."
     
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    Plato, Alexander Hamilton, St. Paul.
     
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    Prominent thinkers who embraced pedophilia: Allen Ginsberg, Andre Gide, and Michel Foucault.

    Quote about Foucault: Foucault, you see, was a pedophile who liked to have sex with young boys. He devised an elaborate theory about how Western civilization had made a bogus distinction between heterosexual and homosexual, and also between adults and children, and how in reality everybody is sexual from birth and has the ability to fluidly move from heterosexual to homosexual to perhaps pedophilic and even more outlandish inclinations.

    Foucault’s biographer James Miller reports that Foucault spent his days teaching, and his nights plunging into San Francisco’s violent sadomasochistic culture. Here was a guy who was in slacks and tweed in the morning, and leather in the evening – complete with jockstrap, tit-clamps, handcuffs, whips, paddles, riding crops and more. (I am not making this up; Miller is very specific.) Foucault liked to get drugged before sex. He said in 1975, upon first trying LSD, “The only thing I can compare this experience to in my life is sex with a stranger.” In San Francisco, he discovered he could have both. Foucault especially enjoyed sadomasochistic sex because he saw it as a “limit experience” and his philosophy was all about breaking rules and testing the limits. At one point, Foucault lamented that heterosexuals were missing out: “It is regrettable that such places do not yet exist for heterosexuals.”

    Foucault knew that he was taking health risks, but he didn’t care. Even as late as 1983, when AIDS was devastating the gay neighborhoods and Foucault was informed about that fact, he declared, “To die for the love of boys – what could be more beautiful?” Miller writes that Foucault may or may not have known, until the very end, that he had AIDS. Foucault’s longtime companion, Daniel Defert, said he had a “real knowledge” that he was infected. The point, however, is that he didn’t seem to care. It’s one thing to risk your own life, but Foucault seems to have been willing to risk the lives of others as well. Apparently he felt that others too should enjoy “limit experiences,” even if those experiences kill them.

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    Clearly you are completely unfamiliar with Chomsky's work in linguistics. He is incredibly important and brilliant in linguistic analysis. Not that I should be surprised that Americans would think that. Anti-intellectualism is thriving today. Post-modern despair has led to total distrust of rational inquiry. It is sad and is leading the west toward total ignorance, however, the writing has been on the wall for some time now.
     
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    While I do not deny the horrors that the intellectual community has committed, it is not because of intellectualism's inherent evil. These individuals were simply products of their time who were spouting more sophisticated and educated versions of what society already chose to flow towards. Intellectualism has always been seen as a cause for evil by the unintellectual. This is false. Intellectualism is just a reflection of general worldview that is stated in a more rational and cogent manner than general social hooting and hollering.
     
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    "What does Faye want us to conclude from all of this evidence? He wants us to conclude that Heidegger's philosophy itself is nothing more than Nazi ideology. He suggests, for example, that the Gesamtausgabe (the official edition of Heidegger's complete works) should be regarded as nothing more than a compendium of Nazi ideology. "By its very content," Faye writes, "it disseminates within philosophy the explicit and remorseless legitimation of the guiding principles of the Nazi movement"

    The above quote is the sort of reason we should be careful, here. Faye dedicated his work to establishing the Nazism of Heidegger. (sort of an intellectually redundant endeavor, given the fact that Heidegger's Nazism is well known.) Faye, however actually reduces all of Heidegger to Nazi ideology. How foolish. No legitimate reading of Heidegger substantiates his claim. Can we not learn from Heidegger's thought because he was a Nazi? I don't mean agree with him; I mean just learn and expand our philosophical capabilities. Of course. So harping on things like this are tiresome and miss the point of intellectual activity.
     
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    Actually, I've read some lengthy rebuttals of Chomsky's work in linquistics, so clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

    That's debatable.

    Sad, but true, and the supporters of pseudo-intellectuals such as Noam Chomsky here in America are testimony to the anti-intellectualism that is thriving in this country today. Thankfully, I can take some solace in the fact that this problem isn't endemic to the United States and that there are plenty of people in this country who have the moral and intellectual wherewithal to resist it. All is not lost.

    That's a pretty weak way to go about propping up Chomsky and his work. The world isn't to blame for his dishonesty and intellectual shortcomings.

    Read my signature. That warning was written on the wall 38 years ago by a man who endured the Soviet gulag archipelago.

    Then again, perhaps you would prefer this bit of intellectual graffiti instead:

    The decline of contemporary thought has been hastened by the misty phantom of socialism. Socialism has created the illusion of quenching people's thirst for justice; Socialism has lulled their conscience into thinking that the steamroller that is about to flatten them is a blessing in disguise, a salvation, And socialism, more than anything else, has caused public hypocrisy to thrive; it has enabled Europe to ignore the annihilation of 66 million people on its very borders.

    It's amazing how the Babeuvian Illiterati still cling to an ideology that should have fallen with the Berlin Wall. Some people never learn. Some people are too arrogant and weak to admit that they were wrong.
     
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    Chomsky's linguistic analysis is objectively brilliant and its influence on other competent intellectuals is also undeniable. Further, you proved that you have no understanding of Chomsky by associating him with Stalinism. Chomsky, whatever shortcomings he may have, is not Stalinist or anything like it.

    Some people are too arrogant to understand the value of intellectual contributions made by those with whom they do not agree. This is clearly the case, here.
     

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