MOD ALERT Palestinians - Their hatred is the cause of their misery.

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    MOD EDIT HERE
    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...red-cause-their-misery-18.html#post1062836869


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6c1MyLhbRo&feature=player_embedded

    Pat Condal, British writer who became a well-known personality across the network.
    He distributed many videos on the beliefs, including a call to stop pluralism in Europe, ending religious coercion and sharing his belief that Muslim culture is bad. Pat is known, and always described, as direct and honest as hell, did not interest him any issues of 'politically correct', and always say that life. He gets hundreds of threatening letters from outraged Muslims.
    This additional video series of his fiery monologues, Pat talks about peace agreements and Israel as defending itself from an enemy who want NO peace at all.
    It is recommended to listen to the end!
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Why doesn't this fine thread have more responses?
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Palestinians here are Smart.
    If they realize that the thread is real and "painful" to their Propaganda, they do not response. By not responding
    the thread goes back in line ( Let's be real - Everybody read only the front 1st page of threads )... Same as Google search.
     
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    The unfortunate reality in this situation is that the cause of the suffering of Palestinians is not isolated. The Israelis and their supremacist ideology and religion are the main source of that suffering. They believe that the Palestinians, who are Gentiles, are not entitled to any rights as human beings, and that they were only created to serve the superior master-race, God's Chosen People. This belief allows IDF soldiers and officers to indiscriminately murder Palestinians without any moral qualms. The Zionist ideology also completely radicalizes its adherents through the use of revisionist history (this is a dressed up form of fiction) that relies not on any historical fact, but religious teachings instead.

    What the average Israeli Jew believes is that prior to Jewish settlement in Palestine, the land was just a barren desert that was uninhabited. The Jews, those that were lucky enough to survive WWII, were granted Palestine as a gift from God, and that it was their birthright and ancestral homeland. The Palestinians are merely an invention of the hateful and murderous Arabs. The Arabs claim that the land that is Israel, a home for Jews, actually belongs to these people who are really Arabs from other countries pretending they are from Israel because Arabs have a violent and passionate hatred for Jews.

    The unfortunate reality is that these Israelis have been completely brainwashed by the Zionist propaganda. In the late 19th century, the Zionist movement declared it's intentions to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine in Herzl's Der Judenstaat. The Zionist leadership comprised of many wealthy, powerful and influential public and political figures. During the early 20th century, they gained the allegiance of the British government to their cause through a combination of their wealth and influence. Members of the British Cabinet were sold on this Zionist ideology and future through the writings of prominent Jews such as Herbert Samuels, in his 1915 paper The Future of Palestine which solidified the future of the Zionist movement by determining the actions of the British government in the Sykes-Picot Agreement and the Balfour Declaration. The British relied on funds from wealthy Jewish bankers to win WWI, and in exchange they would let Palestine go to the Jews after the Ottomans were defeated.

    As Jewish immigration to Palestine continued, by the early 1920s there were almost 100,000 Jews in Palestine. The indigenous population, consisting of mainly Muslim and Christian Arabs, became increasingly aware of the intentions of Jews to usurp their land, and a major conflict began in Palestine. Arabs and Jews fought over the land, and both militants and civilians were killed on both sides. The British Government, which was in control of the land at that time under the British Mandate of Palestine, was forced to employ lies and deception in order to calm the Arab population of Palestine, and Churchill's White Paper was successful in calming the situation.

    Immigration to Palestine was now controlled and restricted by the British, yet the Jewish population continued to rise as 400,000 Jews came from Europe to Palestine illegally. The Jewish community grew from 1/6 to 1/3 of the population of Palestine between 1920 and 1945. After WWII, many of the survivors of the Holocaust found themselves without families, homes, or countries to return to. The global dynamic had changed drastically, and post-War Europe was like nothing they knew from pre-War Europe. Most of these survivors made their way down to Palestine, where they were indoctrinated in the fantastical Zionist ideology explained above.

    Come 1948, many of the leaders of the Jewish community had been involved in terrorism for some time. They banded together and founded a governmental as well as military structure and leadership, and declared Israel to be a state and Jewish homeland. What followed was a massacre and mass eviction. The Palestinians that lived on the land were killed by the villages. As the carnage traveled from village to village, the Arabs began to flee the armed gangs that did not discriminate and murdered even women and children, burying their victims in mass graves. Between those killed and those who fled, the land of Zion had been ethnically cleansed and over 700,000 Palestinians had either fled or been killed. Their farmland and vineyards were taken, over 2 million dunums of land that belonged to the Arabs was annexed by Israel and the new government. These Palestinian land owners, even those that were not killed and did not flee (those that remained on the land at the time) were subject to ridiculous laws that justified the stealing of their land absurdly calling them "present absentees".

    The Arabs attempted to free Palestine from this aggression, but they were continually defeated for a number of reasons. The first reason being that the Jewish people were much more united in their will than the Arabs. The Jews were also supported by many wealthy and influential Zionists in Europe, and had access to superior weaponry. The real tragedy for the Arab people is that they were not self-governing. The Imperialists had divided a once united Muslim empire into colonies, and even after these colonies gained their independence, it was the British and French that appointed their leadership. With leadership consisting of unfaithful and deceptive demagogues, the Arab people were completely at the whim of the Imperialist puppet-masters that controlled their leaders.

    Since the last "war" of 1973, the Jewish state has continued to ignore the rights of the Palestinians as human beings, as they do not consider them such. The Israeli government continues to steal land and create settlements. They imprison the Palestinians in an open-air prison, a virtual concentration camp where Israel goes as far as to control not only what materials enter, but the individual calorie intake of the Palestinians. While Israel's continued aggression and violation of international law is apparent to all that have not been indoctrinated by the Zionist propaganda into the hateful Jewish Supremacist Ideology, the United Nations and International Community are completely powerless to stop the aggression because of the power of the Jewish lobby in the United States. The Zionists can essentially determine the leadership of the US through powerful groups such as AIPAC and their incredible amount of wealth. This means that whenever Israel decides to behave criminally, they can do so freely under the assurance that the United States will defend them and veto any resolution against them.

    There is much more to be said, but I think that this should suffice. Perhaps now you understand that the misery of the Palestinians is a result of racism and the Zionist ideology and the actions that arise from it. Their hatred is a result of said misery.

    MDL
     
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    The countdown has started ... Kurds will have a state soon.
    After Assad's fall, Syria will be divided into 3 "small" countries... One will be the Kurd's State. :thumbsup:
     
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    This thread is about peace agreements and Israel as defending itself from an enemy who want NO peace at all.
     
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    No, this thread is simply your hasbara propaganda again. The Palestinians are miserable because you are illegally occupying and stealing their land and property. They hate you because you are illegally occupying and stealing their land and property, and have done so for decades. If you don't understand or acknowledge that then you're nothing less than a hasbara shill and, frankly, not worth the waste of bandwidth to respond to.
    By the way, genius, just because someone disagrees with you why do you assume them to be Palestinians?
     
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    This is AGAIN Palestinian usual moaning. The world is fed up with it. Even the Arab leauge is fed up with palestinian moaning and crying. Palestinians have a big state and it's called Jordan.
     
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    I would like to get by return some evidence of your scatological post above...
    When did the Jews steal 'Land' from the so called Palestinians... when the word 'Palestinian' was invented by Arafat in 1964...

    I want to reiterate that what you have written above is a Figment of your imagination or some Muslim has forcefully influenced you that this is the truth (Muslim Hasbara really)... Too bad you Jewish Step Father had never had the chance to discuss this and change your mind on your extremely fallacious statement written above.
     
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    You might want to tell Jordan that, because many of them are having their Jordain citizenship revoked
     
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    Get personal with me and my late family again Bendor and expect consequences.
     
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    What Palestinians? Arabs are not native to the near east.

    Jews are stealing Greek land , as always.
     
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    Yes Ive listened to Pat a number of times. But like all such ignorant deceiving bigots, Pat doesnt offer consistent argument, historical sources and references etc. Instead much like you he offers us a snapshot of his own opinions without ever having them tested.

    In the end you MGB know fine well our disagreement with all your views, you already know what Im going to say. You know if we have a disagreement Ill just come up with sources and youll just start asserting predictions about jordan etc etc.

    So now we're both clear, is there anything else, any point of contention specfically youd like to dicuss?
     
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    Not so . It was Phoenician or more likes Canaanites were NOT ancient Greeks but a Semitic people because they spoke Semitic languages. Not much is known beyond that, but linguistic connections tell us something about cultural and ethnic connections. What archaeologists have been able to discover of ancient scripts indicates not only that proto-Canaanite was an ancestor of later Phoenician, but that it was a likely middle step from Hieratic, a cursive script derived from Egyptian hieroglyphs.

    It is likely that the Phoenicians of the Iron Age (1200-333 BCE) came from the Canaanites of the Bronze Age (3000-1200 BCE). The name 'Phoenician' probably comes from the Greek phoinix, a red-purple color which likely refers to the famous red-purple dye produced and exported for centuries by Phoenicians. The name 'Canaan' may come from the Hurrian word, kinahhu, for the same color. This would make Phoenicia and Canaan the same word for the same people, but in different languages and at different times.


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    Pat Condell is quite a pragmatic man he tells things as they are in a truthful fashion, that it goes against the Muslims desiderata is something that many Muslim cannot cope with... Listen to Condell some more I have more than thirty episodes of his comments on video that I can challenge anyone with.

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    What consequences... just debate the truth and stay away from Muslim hasbara LOL
     
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    except most people don't think this color things is likely. It is one theory that is not really supported by evidence. It is just as likely that Kinahhu is a Haririan version of the word Canaan which more likely meant the lowland. So................
     
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    No he has his views, he puts them online but its not referenced or sourced argumentation. Its just a mans rant. You cant challenge me with these videos theyre worthless.
     
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    But of course they are worthless to you. We had this argument before... You meant then, to say that I should not confront you with the truth since your mind is already made up... But let us give you and others the real McCoy

    Watch : Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem

    VIDEO

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mkbBudJu1w&feature=player_embedded
     
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    No dont waste my time, just provide a link to a well sourced scholarly work on political and regional history. I dont accept your lack of standards any more.
     
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    Maybe this kind of <STANDARD> will appeal to you a little more... as Islam is definitely a <CURSE> on humanity.

    VIDEO

    A disturbing video surfaced from "liberated" Libya of a machete-wielding masked man hacking at the head of a captive&#8212;again, to the cries of "Allahu Akbar

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=53b_1368938625
     
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    It is one of the rare moments in this forum whent i have to recognise that a user knows what he is talking about in the topic of history , great job sir .

    The Canaanite and the Phoenicians of course were Semitic peoples speaking Semitic language nobody denies that but after Alex took over their cities they massively immigrated into north Africa creating the Carthaginian empire . Those who didn't left were assimilated by the dominant culture in eastern Med as did the Carians , Phrigians , Cappadocians , Lydians , Paflagonians , Sicels , Thracians and many others .

    The script came from Egypt and i am aware of the origin of their name.
    None of the area's natives was a Bedouin Arab , Arabic language is as foreign to the Levant as it is in Maghreb and Al Misr .
     
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    Again, we find and see that when Arabs have nothing to say, they curse.
    Why can't Arabs see that their main enemy is Arabs ?
     
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    Thank you mutmekep - A few years ago I spent 2 weeks in Tunis - Since school days Ive longed to see Carthage. Well I saw the ruins but fortunately the French +Arabs preserved whatever they could in one of the world's best museums on Phoenician historical remains.
    I hope + wish you get an opportunity - to visit the Tunis museum at some future date. The second best imo is in Beirut which I 've also visited.
    Good luck.
     

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