Boston Marathon terror attacks: "FBI indicates Saudi connection", What obama will do?

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  1. litwin

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    Boston Marathon terror attacks: "FBI indicates Saudi connection",http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...cates-Saudi-connection/videoshow/19573183.cms
    What obama will do? act like a state man and attack Iran? or this time the real terrorists will be punished?
     
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    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    We shouldn't be attacking anyone as a response to this.
     
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    You are aware that this report was debunked almost immediately. No suspect has been taken into custody. This is a myth.
     
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    So, this person is not of interest? Cops guarding the entrance.


     
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    I actually went to the NY Post article to see what I could find out (I don't necessarly trust a news source from the opposite side of the world to be accurate).

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/fbi_grills_saudi_man_XaT5rE40LDdAH44vMFOEXM

    Apparently the FBI interest was because of profiling by a bystander. The guy looked suspicious because he looked like an Arab.

    Yes, the man probably smelled of gun powder because he was close enough to the explosion to be injured. He was also running away because EVERYONE was running away. According to CNN the FBI didn't find anything of interest when they searched his apartment.

    Is there a possibility that this man was responsible? Sure, anything is possible but the odds are extremely remoted. If he was responsible then why would he have been standing where he'd be a victim of the explosion? That makes no real sense as this wasn't a suicide bombing. They were timed explosives and more than the two that went off were placed to explode.

    Logically I'd write this guy off as being a probable suspect. That doesn't imply the FBI should just ignore him but he's not under arrest and can apparently leave the hospital if he chooses to do so. No arrest warrant has been issued and while he could be detained that would only be for up to 72 hrs under the law. Lacking any evidence of involvement, which is the apparent case as of right now, the FBI isn't going to hold him if he decides to leave. Racism on the part of the bystander that identified him because he was an "injured Arab running away from the explosion" is not grounds to hold the man or believe he's responsible.

    If we actually look at the history of terrorism in the US it's far more likely that this bomb attack was by an American than by a foreigner.
     
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    Our muslim loving president will probably just call this sports injuries!!!! Kinda like the work place violence at Fort Hood.
     
  7. TomFitz

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    That's right. The claim is false. there are not "cops guarding the entrance".

    BTW, your link doesn't connect to what you claim it does. Did you want to pretend that the New York Post story had credibility by hiding behind someone else who picked it up? Another right wing poster on this topic is doing that. If so, did you not think anyone would fact check you????????
     
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    What is your source that the report has been debunked?

    It sounds as if the cops do have a suspect and he ain't American.
     
  9. TomFitz

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    Actually, the Post originally claimed that the Boston Police had a Saudi suspect in custody. When questioned, the BPD wondered where the Post is getting its information, since it certainly wasn't from them.

    I think Murdoch is ginning this up because his newspaper jumped the gun. I notice that the story is not being given much emphasis in any legitimate media, other than to cite the report as being a NY Post claim.

    Everywhere, that is, except in the right wing blogosphere (where journalism, facts, and ethics only get in the way), where the claim is the only story.
     
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    The Times of India is a rag that prints rumors (remember Obama's trip to India) but of course the anti-muslim crowd will use this until someone is caught. The Saudi student was seen running, he has burns, and they are questioning him along with many people. He is not a suspect but may be a witness but my guess he is focussed on for being Arab on a Sunny Day.
     
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    Tom, I will admit the news for the first week is sketchy at best but please show me that a person in the hospital is not a person of interest and I will admit I am in the wrong. Truth is my objective. I listen, I learn.

    Oh, I am not a Republican or right winger. In any case it is a act of terror and should be dealt with regardless.

     
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    I have to say, this is sounding decidedly dodgy..

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    Thanks for the update. I also will wait for more info.

     
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    Has anyone investigated the Republican Party yet? It seems to be full of violent fundamentalist nutters. What sort of vicious half-wit would pull a stunt like this, after all?
     
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    My information was based on the fact that the NY Post story was denied by the Boston Police within an hour. You see one of many links to that effect.

    I've never been one to assign much credibility to any of the Murdoch media, and particularly the New York Post, which is only about a half step above the National Equirer as a legitimate news source normally.

    The FBI does seem to be showing interest in a suspect in the hospital right now.

    The truth does count.

    The piece that originally ran in the Post, and was denied by the Boston Police is banner headline on every right wing trash blog you can find. right now.

    They never have been interested in the truth.

    Similarly, liberals should refrain from assuming that this was the work of some right wing lunatic.

    We'll let the facts decide.
     
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    Its been all over the news, its fact. There is a 20 year old Saudi student who is being guarded.

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    Bomb the middle east and convert the muslims to christians. Its the only way to solve the problem.
     
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    People that do (*)(*)(*)(*) like this are leftists. You know, the weather underground...the old friends of Obama?
     
  19. Iolo

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    I doubt any Liberal has done that, but as a socialist I'd guess it is quite likely - which is very different from making assumptions. I do think your extremists over there are more numerous and nuttier than the Muslim ones. It is a foul business, whoever is responsible.
     
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    All coincidences?

    boston2.jpg
     
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    The BPD did not really debunk this. They made two claims... three really...
    1. "I don't know where they are getting their information, it isn't from us."
    2. "Nobody has been arrested"
    3. "We have no suspects"

    Not being the source of the information, does not make it untrue. I would assume they got the info from a hospital worker.
    Detainment is not arrest.
    He was not yet named a suspect, but a person of interest.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57579736/authorities-question-saudi-national-in-boston-attack/

    CBS is committed to this belief as well... CBS claims to have its own LEO sources which are corroborating the story. Does Murdoch own CBS?

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...s-and-is-being-guarded-by-police-in-hospital/

    Gee... why wouldn't it be getting much attention on the leftists MSM? Derp.
     
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    Crackpots with an agenda always try to exploit these tragedies by mindless finger pointing, but caution is demanded.

    Recall the 1996 Summer Olympics bombing in Atlanta, when security guard Richard Jewell was mistakenly blamed. It took years for investigators to determine that the real bomber was Eric Rudolph, an anti-government, anti-abortion whack job.

    Obviously, one hopes justice is swifter this time, but targeting your favourite scapegoat is not how that is achieved.
     
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    This sort of vicious half witted attack is not helpful at all.
     
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    Americans tend to blow up government things.

    So... if the "profiler's" instincts are right, and he WAS acting suspiciously, and IS involved somehow... he is still a racist? Or prudent hero?

    I also suggest you re-read section 212 of the Patriot Act with regard to aliens, terrorist attacks, habeus corpus, detainment and maranda. I will sum up for you. He has no rights. They can hold him for a week without arresting him... and do not have to read him his rights.
     
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    You supposed I wanted to help you, did you? Why did you suppose that?
     

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