Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    my answer is - Muslim demography /polygamy ,what do you think, Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?
     
  2. SFJEFF

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    Why not go with what the BBC said is the reason?

    Tellingly, the violence began in a gold shop. The movements in both countries exploit a sense of economic grievance - a religious minority is used as the scapegoat for the frustrated aspirations of the majority.

    On Tuesday, Buddhist mobs attacked mosques and burned more than 70 homes in Oakkan, north of Rangoon, after a Muslim girl on a bicycle collided with a monk. One person died and nine were injured.


    Christian crusaders, Islamist militants, or the leaders of "freedom-loving nations", all justify what they see as necessary violence in the name of a higher good. Buddhist rulers and monks have been no exception.
     
  3. ThirdTerm

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    Most Muslims in Burma are Indians who migrated to Burma under British rule to fill jobs in clerical work and business and they have contributed to the former colony's economic growth. The British did not move in large numbers to the colony in Burma and it was Indian workers who migrated to the country and they competed with the local Burmese for jobs, which was why there were anti-Indian riots in Burma under British rule as those foreign workers were blamed for stealing jobs from locals. The racial tensions between nationalistic Burmese and Indian Muslims continue to haunt the unstable country and Buddhist monks are culpable of exacerbating the existing racial problem in the country.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It won't be long before the people in Europe do the same thing. No one wants to give up their country to those who want to Islamize the world through a high birth rate. :roll:
     
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    hatred of outsiders in Burma id say
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Christian Crusades weren't called to convert Muslims. They were called to free the Holy Land from the Islamic occupation so that Christians could make pilgrimages. :angel:
     
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    seems like there being attacked for just living there rather then trying to make an Islamic state any one any where who loots and dose violence over something like that is sick and needs to be beaten down for the general good of mankind
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    Thanks- that reinforces nicely the BBC statement
    Christian crusaders, Islamist militants, or the leaders of "freedom-loving nations", all justify what they see as necessary violence in the name of a higher good.
     
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    invading and taking over a place so people can take trips there seems kind of wrong
     
  10. Jack Napier

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    EDL monks?

    Jewish monks? Jonks?

    Jealous of hair?

    All of those?

    :love:

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    With each passing post, your statements get more absurd.
     
  11. lizarddust

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    In Theravada Buddhist countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia and especially Laos, young men will usually take up the bowl and robes and become novice monks during some time in their life, usually after leaving school and before getting married. This is often seen as part of their education. Time spent in a temple could be from a few weeks to a few months,, but they never become fully ordained monks. I have a sneaking suspicion these 'monks' are only novices or part timers.

    Now,, about the clashes in Myanmar. These are more ethnic problems than religious ones. Burmese are targeting Rohingya who are actually Bangladeshi and not Burmese. The Burmese believe the Rohingya (who are Muslim) are illegal immigrants. Rohingya are also Caucasian while Burmese are Asian.

    On the BBC the other day they interviewed a woman shop keeper whose business was burnt down. She is Burmese Buddhist but her husband is Rohingya Muslim. They have never had any problems until now.

    I believe the entire problem relates back to when a Rohingya man sexually assaulted a Burmese girl.




    Interesting Sri Lanka is mentioned in your post. Sri Lanka is where Theravada Buddhism originated and Sri Lankan Buddhists are a bit more militant than other Theravada Buddhist countries.

    To add,, the photo you posted is of Burmese monks.
     
  12. lizarddust

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    This post really shows how little you understand about global geopolitical and religious issues. But I can understand this considering the state of the American education system.

    Your post is totally off topic.
     
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    The clashes between Buddhists and Muslims in Myanmar are between Bangladeshi Rohingya and Burmese nationals.
     
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    What does Islam’s Koran and Buddhism have in common?

    Is taking land by whatever reason and then keeping it pure a form of aggression?

    Is there any reason to believe that a Muslim convert to Buddhism could achieve enlightenment living under Islam?

    What would an enlightened Buddhist make of the following bolded questions and answers?

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 191:

    Narrated Abdullah bin Abbas:
    "He said, 'Do the noble or the poor follow him?' I replied, 'It is the poor who follow him.' He said, 'Are they increasing or decreasing (day by day)?' I replied,' They are increasing.' He said, 'Does anybody amongst those who embrace his (the Prophet's) Religion become displeased and then discard his Religion?'. I replied, 'No. ' He said, 'Does he break his promises? I replied, 'No, but we are now at truce with him and we are afraid that he may betray us." Abu Sufyan added, "Other than the last sentence, I could not say anything against him. Caesar then asked, 'Have you ever had a war with him?' I replied, 'Yes.' He said, 'What was the outcome of your battles with him?' I replied, 'The result was unstable; sometimes he was victorious and sometimes we.' He said, 'What does he order you to do?' I said, 'He tells us to worship Allah alone, and not to worship others along with Him, and to leave all that our fore-fathers used to worship. He orders us to pray, give in charity, be chaste, keep promises and return what is entrusted to us.'"

    Pretend you know nothing; what is your enlightened assessment of those answers?
     
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    Actually I'm relating it to the problems in Greece with the illegal immigrants, which is actually an invasion and the Greeks do not want to lose their country. There is also crime which didn't exist before the invasion, and the worse part is that they not only rob, but kill as well...especially those who cannot defend themselves such as the elderly. The police are overwhelmed with the almost one million illegals in a nation of ten million, and the elderly do need protection..especially when they go to the bank to cash their SS checks.

    This protection is given to them by a nationalist party called the Golden Dawn who wants to rid the country of illegals. Next week is Orthodox Easter and they have prepared a traditional lamb dinner for the poor, but it is only for Greeks. The mayor has forbidden them to do so, and the Archbishop of Piraes has called them evil, and that 'Golden Dawn' is an ancient symbol that represents a pagan deity.

    Lately there was a shooting of Bangladesh workers at a farm in the south, and it has caused an uproar. The Bangladesh in turn have now formed an Islamic brotherhood and are taking to the streets...
    :frustrated:
     
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    Isn't it obvious? There are no Jews in those countries to attack ;) LOL
     
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    There have been protests in Delhi by Muslims against the brutal treatment of Rohingyas in Myanmar, but nothing has been said about an Islamic brotherhood in Bangladesh. The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood has issued a statement to the Bangladeshi govt to cancel the death penalty of a Bangladeshi Muslim political leader, which actually goes back to the 1970s when Bangladesh was fighting for independence.

    The point is, the Rohingyas have lived peacefully in that region including Burma for centuries. Why the sudden violence against them?
     
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    Say what you want about 'No True-Scotsman' but Buddha was very, very specific regarding the non-violence stance in every available mentioning of his teachings

    Buddhists attacking someone in self-defense is one thing.

    Buddhists attacking any human is a complete other.

    But Buddhist monks attacking people who they know are completely innocent of any percieved slights, immaginary or otherwise, means they are directly violating the teachings of Buddhism.

    Hell, Buddha forgave that guy who flat out murdered nearly a 1000 people and the guy, supposedly, became a pacifist monk.

    You can't be Buddhist if you support, condone or take part in physical violence, killing or destruction of homes of innocent people.
     
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    There has been quite a bit of violence conducted by Buddhists in SE Asia. Southern Thailand has been having problems with Theravada Buddhists and Muslims for quite a while now.. This one is solely a religious issues as both the Buddhists and Muslims have the same ethnicity, both belong to the Tai (pronounced 'Tay', not to be confused with Thai) group of ethnicities. I read the Bangkok Post almost daily and hardly a week goes by without some tit-for-tat violence. Recently Buddhists murdered a Muslim school teacher in front of his students in the school cafeteria There have been over 5000 people both Buddhist and Muslims killed in southern Thailand since 2004.

    Myanmar is a bit different, the violence is more due to ethnicity. Rohingyas are Bangladeshi but also Muslim and also Caucasian. Burmese believe the Rohingyas are illegal immigrants from Bangladeshi.

    Look at the atrocities committed during the Sri Lankan civil war in a population predominantly Theravada Buddhist. Here it was Buddhist against Hindus.

    "8 killed in Myanmar Buddhist-Muslim brawl in Indonesia" These are refugees by the way.

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/344078/myanmar-buddhist-muslim-violence-spreads-to-indonesia

    Violence for political or religious motives has no boundaries.
     
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    Two primitive cultures at war.

    Who.

    The.

    (*)(*)(*)(*).

    Cares.

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    It does if they're Buddhist.

    Subjective texts and varying interpretations of those texts doesn't remove the blatant opposition Buddha had to this exact sort of violence.

    Whatever they believe, they can't factually be called Buddhists. Even if they want to call themselves that. As they directly go against Buddhas teachings.

    At most you could say they were very (*)(*)(*)(*)ty Buddhists who weren't following Buddhism.
     
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    The Buddha didn't actually exist.

    http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/game-of-thrones-dani-burn-deal-with-it.gif

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    links,?

    not me BBC
     
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    my guess because Bangladesh is so badly overpopulated they send waives of muslim emigrants around the planet and Burma doest want to be a receiver of those wavies
     
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    why did they kill so many Jews along the way?
     

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