ABC News: Emails Show White House LIED About Benghazi Story "Revisions"

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, it is now GLARINGLY OBVIOUS , that it wasn't just then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who OPENLY LIED about the events leading up to, during,and after the 9/11 Benghazi terror attack that left our ambassador to Libya,and several others dead, after all.

    The OBAMA WHITE HOUSE, also DELIBERATELY LIED about the changes made to the "official version of events", once it became apparent that their FIRST LIE wasn't working: the Obama White House did what they do best: THREW SOMEONE ELSE UNDER THE BUS, in this case the INTELL COMMUNITY:

    Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference


    When it became clear last fall that the CIA's now discredited Benghazi talking points were flawed, the White House said repeatedly the documents were put together almost entirely by the intelligence community, but White House documents reviewed by Congress suggest a different story.

    ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.


    White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest the edits were made with extensive input from the State Department. The edits included requests from the State Department that references to the Al Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia be deleted as well references to CIA warnings about terrorist threats in Benghazi in the months preceding the attack.

    That would appear to directly contradict what White House Press Secretary Jay Carneysaid about the talking points in November.

    "Those talking points originated from the intelligence community. They reflect the IC's best assessments of what they thought had happened," Carney told reporters at the White House press briefing on November 28, 2012. "The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two institutions were changing the word 'consulate' to 'diplomatic facility' because 'consulate' was inaccurate
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    Summaries of White House and State Department emails - some of which were first published by Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard - show that the State Department had extensive input into the editing of the talking points.

    State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland raised specific objections to this paragraph drafted by the CIA in its earlier versions of the talking points:

    "The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al-Qa'ida in Benghazi and eastern Libya. These noted that, since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants, including the June attack against the British Ambassador's convoy. We cannot rule out the individuals has previously surveilled the U.S. facilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks."

    In an email to officials at the White House and the intelligence agencies, State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland took issue with including that information because it "could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that either? Concerned …"

    The paragraph was entirely deleted.


    Like the final version used by Ambassador Rice on the Sunday shows, the CIA's first drafts said the attack appeared to have been "spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo" but the CIA version went on to say, "That being said, we do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al-Qa'ida participated in the attack." The draft went on to specifically name the al Qaeda-affiliated group named Ansar al-Sharia.

    Once again, Nuland objected to naming the terrorist groups because "we don't want to prejudice the investigation."

    In response, an NSC staffer coordinating the review of the talking points wrote back to Nuland, "The FBI did not have major concerns with the points and offered only a couple minor suggestions."

    After the talking points were edited slightly to address Nuland's concerns, she responded that changes did not go far enough.

    "These changes don't resolve all of my issues or those of my buildings leadership," Nuland wrote.

    In an email dated 9/14/12 at 9:34 p.m. - three days after the attack and two days before Ambassador Rice appeared on the Sunday shows - Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes wrote an email saying the State Department's concerns needed to be addressed.

    "We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don't want to undermine the FBI investigation. We thus will work through the talking points tomorrow morning at the Deputies Committee meeting."



    After that meeting, which took place Saturday morning at the White House, the CIA drafted the final version of the talking points - deleting all references to al Qaeda and to the security warnings in Benghazi prior to the attack.

    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said none of this contradicts what he said about the talking points because ultimately all versions were actually written and signed-off by the CIA.

    "The CIA drafted these talking points and redrafted these talking points," Carney said. "The fact that there are inputs is always the case in a process like this, but the only edits made by anyone here at the White House were stylistic and nonsubstantive. They corrected the description of the building or the facility in Benghazi from consulate to diplomatic facility and the like. And ultimately, this all has been discussed and reviewed and provided in enormous levels of detail by the administration to Congressional investigators, and the attempt to politicize the talking points, again, is part of an effort to, you know, chase after what isn't the substance here."

    UPDATE: A source familiar with the White House emails on the Benghazi talking point revisions say that State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland was raising two concerns about the CIA's first version of talking points, which were going to be sent to Congress: 1) The talking points went further than what she was allowed to say about the attack during her state department briefings; and, 2) she believed the CIA was attempting to exonerate itself at the State Department's expense by suggesting CIA warnings about the security situation were ignored.

    In one email, Nuland asked, why are we suggest Congress "start making assertions to the media [about the al Qaeda connection] that we ourselves are not making because we don't want to prejudice the investigation?"

    One other point: The significant edits - deleting references to al Qaeda and the CIA's warnings - came after a White House meeting on the Saturday before Ambassador Susan Rice appeared on five Sunday shows. Nuland, a 30-year foreign service veteran who has served under Democratic and Republican Secretaries of State, was not at that meeting and played no direct role in preparing Rice for her interviews.


    http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blog...nderwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-111305929.html

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    Now, hurry up and try to pretend that the ENTIRE OBAMA ADM. was NOT involved in DELIBERATRLY LYING to the American people, about their OWN CULPABILITY in the ASSASINATION of a US AMBASSADOR,and those fighting to save him?

    Can you say "Lying Through Their Teeth, from Day One"?


    NIXON RESIGNED for A LOT LESS....
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Hmmmmmm..........

    I'd say that ABC getting these e-mails means that Obama has thrown Hillary under the bus.

    Bill Clinton will not take this lightly. He is probably kicking chairs and knocking over the cigar box at his Harlem office.
     
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    It is all unraveling now. It was not the CIA that made any changes. It was all from Hillary's office. Can't wait to get that lying fat-ass incompetent back under oath.
     
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    The Obama White House cannot DANCE out of its culpability on this. The only way the Liar in CHief escapes, is via the CONTINUED BLOCKADE of COVERAGE being implemented by most of the Lamestream Media.

    Maybe ABC will crack the armor of LIES in the MSM...
     
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    The problem is putting a prog lib in charge of terror attacks and war. It bothers me a community planner has all that power. He needs to resign.
     
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    The problem is that the cretins in DC have established a pattern of never calling for responsibility. This is the singular issue of bipartisanship throughout the mess of our government.

    I will be shocked if Clinton and Obama ever see their rightful justice in this pathetic story.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She should hav ealready been INDICTED for the FIRST TIME SHE LIED UNDER OATH....which was in the 1990's.

    Her LIES continue forward to today, with the glaring lies in her previous sworn testimony on Benghazi.


    Obama was involved in the coverup..from DAY ONE.


    NIXON RESIGNED for LESS...a LOT LESS.
     
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    Nixon resigned for a HELLUVA lot less....

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    Friggin' LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH, from Day One.


    Hillary Clinton should be INDICTED for lying under oath,and Obama should be forced to RESIGN.


    NIXON DID...and for a LOT LESS than THIS....
     
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    Nothing to see here...move along, folks...clear the area, Santa Clause will be landing his sleigh shortly.
     
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    Look, I'm with everyone here. The thing is, none of this matters. MSM will do WHATEVER it takes to bury this story. There is no way they will let gods like Obama and Hillary walk away with anything more than a scratch.
     
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    [video=youtube_share;ofXKLWW3SyI]http://youtu.be/ofXKLWW3SyI[/video]
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Indeed! Ya know, if the Fraudocrats are permitted by their dim witted gimme, gimme voters/followers to continue their Rule of Lies for many more years, we're going to have to change our nation's abbreviation from US to BS.
     
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    We know that too much of the security funds are spent protecting Obama and his family.

    If the Obama daughters had not been allow to vacation in Mexico that money could have been spent protecting the consulate in Libya.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    That's probably true. These people constantly dwell in their own (*)(*)(*)(*). They're used to it.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your ridiculously stupid statement is beyond reason.

    Completely separate funds.
     
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    They don't have to be separate.

    Tell the spoiled Obama daughters to stay in America and use the money saved to protect our consulate in Libya.
     
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    An accepted corrupt, immoral government is representative of a corrupt and immoral people....

    A Representative, Constitutional Republic form of democracy can survive neither.....


    as the state collectivist progressive left either whistles past the graveyard....or actively defends, denies, or obfuscates.
     
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    We'll see, but I'm sure the WH propaganda team is working tirelessly with their MSM allies to divert attention away from Obama and likely Hillary as well. My guess, the liberal media will remain totally invested in protecting both of them. How, I don't know, but I've no doubt they will.
     
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    Most likely true, but the appearance of these emails at ABC is a possible sign of a SHRED of INTEGRITY from the Dinosaur Media...just maybe...

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    The onetime Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column, no doubt, but maybe ABC's release of these emails (let's see what their news dept. does), might be a break from the pattern...
     
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    Pathetic. That has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's ALL TAX MONEY is the point, and it would have been BETTER SPENT in Benghazi..= great point, meant as an illustration of the SKEWED priorities of this admiistration, in addition to their NONSTOP LIES to the AMERICAN PEOPLE about their culpability in the 9/11 Benghazi attacks, and their even more eggregious LIES to cover that up.


    NIXON RESIGNED for LESS...a LOT LESS.
     
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    Agreed.

    Libs always defend the extravagant Obama vacation spending as irrelevant to the larger picture and now we know where the money could have been better spent.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Already debunked...DOZENS of TIMES. State Dept. ha over $2 billion at the time of the attacks, and had just beefed up security at the PARIS embassy, after REFUSING to do so in Benghazi, even REFUSING a Dept. of Defense offer of a MARINE CONTINGENT, at NO COST to the State Dept.

    Make up some more BULLCRAP, to try to cover for the EXPOSED LIES of the Obama Adm.


    NIXON RESIGNED for LESS.
     
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    In my opinion, a desperate WH has decided to unload on Hillary. This will be a civil war between the Obamafields and the McClintons.
     

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