Time for the United States to FORCE a Peaceful Settlement.

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    For years upon years I have not only had to read and hear about the Palestinian/Israeli issue but I have actually had to do several...JOBS...specific to these issues and I can tell you as an American I am SICK TO DEATH of hearing and dealing with it.

    We came up with a Road Map to Peace and although when two sides have been fighting as long as these two have any Peace Deal is going to have aspects of it that both sides will have issues with...but still the Road Map was a very good and as close to equitable settlement for both sides that could be drawn up.

    Because neither the Israeli's or the Palestinians can seem to get their S#!% together and get this deal done...we Americans have to listen to Radical Groups and Countries justify actions due to the Palestinian Plight as well as have to constantly force Israel by reminding them who pays out Billions in Aid...and this is done for the Palestinians as well...to play nice.

    Now at this point it is obvious that neither side is GROWN UP ENOUGH to just get this done as it seems much more important for both sides leadership to look as if they are the ones getting the other to capitulate as in the mean while the whole region is in flames.

    So I suggest we declare that the United States will cut off aid to both sides...and this is in the BILLIONS of Dollars...until both sides sign and enact the Road Map Peace accord.

    I would just love to be back there to see both the Israeli Leadership and the Palestinian Leadership have all the Blood drain from their faces as a U.S. Envoy announces to them that until BOTH SIDES SIGN AND ENACT THE AGREEMENT...NEITHER SIDE GET'S A DIME.

    You see both sides think that the U.S. would never stop aid as Israel thinks their Lobby in Congress and the donations given to sway them would prevent such a thing as well the Palestinians feel that the U.S. would never cut off aid as for the way that would look to Oil Supplying U.S. Arab allies.

    I can tell you this as I was informed by a reliable source...it is possible that by this December a plan to do exactly this might very well happen. A joint committee of Republicans and Democrats in the Senate as well as one in the House have both agreed that it is time to use a Carrot Stick approach to both the Israeli's and Palestinians.

    Given the slight by the Israeli Leadership of the President of the United States and the uncooperative nature of the current Palestinian Leadership...now would be the time to implement such a plan.

    And Man...I would just LOVE to see the Leaders of both sides...SQUIRM!

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  2. Ivan88

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    The USA is too prejudiced to carry out any sort of peace in Palestine.

    The Israelis would accept some plan, and sabotage it. The Christian Israel people of Palestine would reject it because, they already know the Israelis have no intention of doing anything except stealing more land and killing more people.
    Since the USA has nothing to offer except token donations, the deal will fail and the Israelis will say, "See the Palestinians don't want peace!"
     
  3. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Both the Israeli's and the Palestinians have been a Pain in the Ass for far too long.

    While these two sides bicker and fight...the United States has to deal with the political fallout around the globe and BOTH sides are to blame for lack of progress as far as Peace.

    Then you have Iran sending Syria money to give to Hamas and Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad as Assad takes his CUT of course for being a middle man. Any money Iran or Syria might say is going to the Palestinian People for food, supplies or development is quickly swallowed by such groups or Palestinian Leaders. Thus most of the money that actually does go for development comes from the U.S. but even that money is skimmed.

    Israel is just as big a pain as we give them Billions as well and they tend to do whatever they can to sabotage the peace process.

    But the Palestinians do the same.

    The ONLY way to make peace is to cut off the money!

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  4. AboveAlpha

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    You know...if the Palestinians were to just notify the United States that they intended to go along with the Road Map as is...the Israeli's would have no choice but to sign on as well.

    The Road Map is fair and gives both sides many things they want as well as creates a Palestinian State.

    Now if the Palestinians signed on...the United States would FORCE Israel to sign as well and also make sure Israel could not interfere with the creation of a Palestinian State.

    The thing is there are too many Israel Hating Groups that have been funded by Iran and Syria that are now a part of the Palestinian population. These groups would not be allowed to interfere either if both sides signed on and if both sides did...you could be damn sure the U.S. would do whatever was necessary to protect this agreement.

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  5. happy fun dude

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    There already is both a peace agreement and a two-state solution.

    There is a state of Israel, and a state of Palestine. We have our two states already there. Israel just need to withdraw their occupation forces and illegal colonists from the nation of Palestine.

    The peace agreement was agreed to decades ago in which Israel are called on to withdraw from all the lands they conquered by force in the 1967 war,

    They refuse to do that.

    We don't need any new deals, we need Israel to let the Palestinians have their food/water and right to self-determination.
     
  6. Abu Sina

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    a Palestinian state built on what exactly?

    The thieving Israelis have left virtually no land left to build on one while you have been asleep.

    How about split the whole area in half 50% - 50% right down the middle giving each a coastline.

    Would you the AMERICAN see 50% 50% as fair?

    Do you think Israel would accept that?

    You are dreaming

    The biggest obstacle to peace and a settlement is Israeli settlements and theft day after day of more land and all this is made possible by AMERICANS donating more and more weapons to allow them to carry it out against Palestinians armed with stones.

    You said you had jobs specific to these issues!

    Maybe you as one of those AMERICANS are also part of the problem if you don't even understand the basics!

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    Oh God!!!

    you don't have a clue! :bored:
     
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    Why destroying all the fun both nations have for the last 70 years?
    Despite the moaning they enjoy fighting , get the hint : they haven't tried anything else than bullets and they don't wanna try anything else.
     
  8. Abu Sina

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    This is what Egyptians think of your president

    Tahrir Square today

    Your embassy has closed and has told Americans to stay in doors and they are all buying up everything they can in supplies for they are thinking they will be under siege for a while.

    Your government are the BIGGEST TERRORISTS in the world and they are doing all they can to silence by what ever means necessary 'all options on the table' any whistleblowers exposing them!



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  9. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Oh God !!
    What is that BUT pure nonsense... Please..
    BTW, When will the Palestinian Bedouin withdraw their occupation in the Israeli Negev ?
     
  10. big daryle

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    The only right solution to this would be to put israel back to their 1948 borders, or better yet, null and void the Balfour Declaration altogether.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Pure nonsense in which area? Is the illegal building of settlements on what the world recognises as Palestinian land, nonsense? Please explain. I understand you're a lockstep Israeli apologist, but lies and fantasy won't go unchallenged. I'll wait.
     
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    The sheer ignorance of the crisis by most is on display in this thread.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Well we can rely on you to enlighten us then, can we?
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    With all due respect, I think you really don't understand the unspoken truth which is that Islam hasn't lost any land to non Muslims in a while and the Palestinians don't want any peace unless it makes the Palestinians the 'masters' of the region. And non Muslims must be killed, convert to Islam or become subjects of the Muslim political/religious authority (whose leadership would emerge) and pay a mandatory Jizya tax for non Muslims.
     
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    No peace agreement is possible because the Paleos only desire the peace of Auschwitz.
     
  16. happy fun dude

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    So you don't think these people deserve food and water?

    That says it all.
     
  17. Abu Sina

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    yes just think if there had been no Balfour Declaration and all Europes Jews went to live in Alaska and leave us all in peace here

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    copy and paste from page 17 Hasbara manual
     
  18. Abu Sina

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    what about all those Jews that left Auchwitz to set up their own concentration camps in Poland after war killing and torturing Germans?

    They never really left Auchwitz mentally or psychologically and guess what.................it wasn't Palestinians running Auchwitz but Jews under orders from a few German officers!
     
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    My question is why are we giving either side financial aid anyhow? They both have more then enough money to run their countries. Just another example of wasteful government spending. While we are at it, why not get out of the United Nations; that is another giant waste of money where we try to buy "influence" around the world and pay out untold sums of money to the UN. Lets worry about our own country first. Just my opinion.
     
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    Get real. The US of AIPAC has itself been the stumbling block to peace for decades. Have you seen the list of its UN Security Council vetoes on Zionist criminality ? :mrgreen:
     
  21. AboveAlpha

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    If the Palestinians agreed to honor the Road Map...all of this would be quickly over.

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  22. AboveAlpha

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    Yeah...they keep killing one another and...I...am the one that doesn't have a clue!?

    We are going to refuse BOTH sides CASH AID and when BOTH sides start crying like little (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es....THEN we might be able to get something done!

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    Yeah....and that will last until Egypt NEEDS something from us. LOL!


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    Pure nonsense in claims that Israel is expected to unilaterally withdraw and in claims that Israel is expected to withdraw from all the lands conquered. The resolutions calls on the Arab world to recognize Israel and normalize its relations with Israel in exchange for Israel's withdrawal to negotiated and secure (not 1967) borders. Needless to say that the Arabs, not Israelis rejected the resolution. The two Arab countries that later accepted it (Egypt and Jordan) got every inch of their land back in exchange for a piece of paper called peace.
     
  25. AboveAlpha

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    The only right solution to this issue would be to give both sides a Spanking, take away their toys, take away their allowances and send them to their rooms without supper!

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