Doctoral Student kicked out because she does not believe gays are born that way

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  1. sec

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    http://illinoisfamily.org/homosexua...-way-street-at-chicagos-roosevelt-university/

    once again we see over-reach by the intolerant left. This very well educated, professional woman does not share the opinion of her professor so she gets bounced.

    excerpt from the lawyer's letter to the school

    Based on our ongoing investigation, it is clear that Roosevelt University (the “University”) and its agents have exhibited disturbing intolerance and discriminated against Ms. John-Charles on the basis of her race, gender, as well as her personal beliefs and political views; have unlawfully retaliated against Ms. John-Charles for attempting to protect her reputation and pursuing her legal rights; defamed her; and have terminated Ms. John-Charles from the EdD Program in violation of public policy.

    and the lawyer nails it; intolerance and discrimination, which are well worn tools of the left.
     
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    Over reach? Private college, they can admit who they like. As it should be.
     
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    Does she believe Matthew Shepard died of "poor judgement" too???
     
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    Certainly. Georgetown can also tell Sandra Fluke to go (*)(*)(*)(*) herself too. It's funny what the media and lefties choose to have outrage over.
     
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    she was already a student. More leftist intolerance. The school wants to force feed her a nonsensical theory about being born gay. She does not accept that theory since the "gay gene" has never been found

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    More examples of Rightist intollerance.

    http://perezhilton.com/2013-06-21-gay-college-student-danielle-powell-gets-support-from-macklemore

    You'd think you would have to do something pretty AWFUL to get kicked out of college. But all it took for Danielle Powell to be expelled from Grace University was being gay.

    Just months away from graduation, the school dismissed Danielle after they had confirmed her relationship with then girlfriend, Michelle Rogers. And then they sent Danielle A TUITION BILL for the semester she wasn't even allowed to attend!

    Grace University, a conservative Christian college, asked Danielle to pay more than $6,000 in charges. She of course said NO WAY! And now she's getting an outpouring of support.

    And the kicker?

    She was offered a full scholarship by Roosevelt University.......lol...
     
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    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/...-students-kicked-out-of-school-for-being-gay#

    According to KWTV News, 18-year-old Melissa McKenzie said she was kicked out of Del City High School in Del City, Okla., at the beginning of the semester when the principal found out she was living with her girlfriend instead of her family. The principal then told her if she returned to her family's home, she would be welcomed back to school.

    Kelsey Hicks, McKenzie's girlfriend, dropped out of school but wanted to finish her education so she could become a firefighter. Upon asking school leaders if she could return, she said they instead encouraged her to drop out.

    "The principal will say 'Well, you're gay. You're not going to do anything with your life. You might as well just drop out now,'" Hicks said. "It's stuff to put you down that makes you want to drop out."

    Yikes- hard to imagine any school kicking out a student simply for beng gay, but as the OP and these posts show- intollerance is alive and well.
     
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    interesting, what was the response from the school? In the OP we even see the letter from the lawyer and lots of links

    whoops, information and facts. If one does not conform to the gay agenda then hit the bricks
     
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    Wow! Well, so much for freedom of speech, freedom to form your own opinion, freedom to be yourself......

    Personally, I do believe that gays are born gay - most of them anyway, but this woman has a right to have her own opinion.

    Gotta love the liberals - they preach, preach, preach about tolerance and acceptance, but can't practice but they preach.
     
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    I didn't see the part where the Professor showed her the proof of being born gay.


    Oh that's right...there isn't any.


    In todays praise gay society, this would be front page news everywhere...the discovery of the century. Can't find it.
     
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    I'd say that hooking up with strange men at a gay bar who you don't know is somewhat poor judgment yes.

    But he didn't die because he was gay, he died because they were looking for a victim to rob. If his sexuality had anything to do with it, it was a secondary motive at best. Shepard was just turned into a martyr used by the 'gay pimps, just like the 'race pimps' like Al Sharpton, etc tried to do with Treyvon.
     
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    No one is taking her free speech rights away. The college does not have any obligation to give her a degree which reflects on them just like the Christian college does have give a degree to a gay person. An EdD is an important degree.
     
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    It is this kind of evil thinking that defines modern conservatives and it is disgusting.
     
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    No it's common sense. Would you want your teenage daughter getting into a car with a group of strange men she just met at a bar, you think that's good judgment?

    No you're just too squeamish, there's a difference.
     
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    I admit it is possible we are getting the whole story in this case, but I note that the source is "illinoisfamily.org" which is strongly anti-gay, and the quote comes from this person's lawyer, who is PAID to be one-sided. And that's ALL we get.

    How about even a single quote from the other side. An article written from the viewpoint of the school might be nice just for comparison.

    Does anyone else smell the wonderful odor of paranoia in Illinois Family's presentation:

     
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    I don't know exactly where the to stand on the issue. There is evidence for nature there is for nurture. It something that should be worked out in academics without one side trying to shut up the other side. But that never happens in academics especially when leftists politics are at stake.

    It doesn't escape me how odd it is when you consider just how often the left rejects nature over nurture especially when it comes to gender roles. Someone can be born gay but male and female gender roles are learned wtf???
     
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    'Yeah common wisdom says so you need to shut up'

    How tolerant of you. The Shepard case was never a hate crime. A couple of methheads were looking for someone to rob so they pretended to be gay. It wasn't a hate crime it was a robbery to get drug money.
     
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    There is no room for ideologues in medical school.
     
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    Why is this woman's attorney trying to make a racial case out of it.
     
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    But more importantly, there is critical LACK of evidence for these as well. There is no tendency for it to be heritable at all, so it's not genetic. But siblings raised identically (and with no relevant experiences or exposures) are homosexual at the normal human ratio, so it doesn't seem to be learned either. Current thought is that it is like handedness- a bias set up according to variations in development currently WAY beyond our ability to evaluate.

    This may be too ideological to address the actual issue. And the issue really is not whether there is anything parents can do to influence the sexual orientation of their children - such efforts fail whether they are behavioral after birth or dietary before birth. The real underlying issue is whether certain people are justified in blaming homosexuals for "choosing" that orientation, even though they had no control over their own orientation at any time, and still don't. And this is important because if we CAN blame such people for making this choice, we are justified in punishing those people by denying them what other people are permitted - marriage, often jobs, sometimes admission or matriculation in schools, and many other aspects of normal life.

    It's not clear that gender roles are learned, considered generally. How children adopt gender roles is currently the target of considerable study. A study made difficult when ideologists on both sides pre-reject any possible results (even correct results) as being ideologically unpalatable.

    The goal of the left, as far as I can tell, is that people of all sexual orientations (except pedophilia) be regarded as PEOPLE, normal ordinary worthy individuals. This isn't far-fetched - most of us have known homosexuals for years, worked with them on the job and outside the job, never knowing their orientation at all. And we couldn't tell. So perhaps they ARE ordinary people.
     
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    A perfect boiler-plate letter from her attorney's. :)
     
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    Because Gillian John-Charles is black. So if you're a lawyer, you're going to use every weapon you can, and discrimination against blacks is one of the most obvious.
     
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    You mean you provided a letter from the attorney representing the person complaining, and didn't provide any response from the school and you wondered why I presented only the side of the complainant too?

    I thought the point of this whole thread was to provide claims of intollerance by students who were kicked out of school.

    I can provide more examples if you would like.
     
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    Yep its only them darn intollerant liberals....because conservatives never do that.....lol

    You'd think you would have to do something pretty AWFUL to get kicked out of college. But all it took for Danielle Powell to be expelled from Grace University was being gay.

    Just months away from graduation, the school dismissed Danielle after they had confirmed her relationship with then girlfriend, Michelle Rogers. And then they sent Danielle A TUITION BILL for the semester she wasn't even allowed to attend!

    Grace University, a conservative Christian college, asked Danielle to pay more than $6,000 in charges. She of course said NO WAY! And now she's getting an outpouring of support.


    I look forward to providing more examples of intollerance.
     
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    There is no indication of any kind she was discr against beause of her race.
     

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