Which of Modern Ethnic & Religious Conflicts is the most brutal?

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  1. litwin

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    Which of Modern Ethnic & Religious Conflicts is the most brutal?

    i vote for

    [video=youtube;3iholvIClPM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iholvIClPM&list=TLfybYci0xiuY[/video]

    and

    [video=youtube;78Kons5VdYg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Kons5VdYg[/video]
     
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    Well, not sure what you call "modern", but for me without a doubt it would be this one.

    [video=youtube;_Z1sj7gzpCk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1sj7gzpCk[/video]

    But the movie does not do it full justice.

    [​IMG]

    Over 1/4 of the population of Cambodia put to death, many just for having a religion at all, or not being "Ethnic Cambodian".
     
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    2013 , your example is outdated
     
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    It is? Then what is your classification of "Modern"?
     
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    a conflict which is still on
     
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    Then for clarity, you probably should have used "current" instead of "modern". To most military scholars, "modern" refers to anything post-WWII.

    To be technical, that would be the Korean War, still ongoing, with a death count of over 4.5 million.

    If you mean "hot wars", that would be without a doubt Somalia, with over 500,000 dead. Followed by Syria (120,000+).
     
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    what's about Iraq?
     
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    Since Saddam was put down, Iraq has not been Ethnic nor Religious. The fighting has been of a very secular nature, mostly involving power and control, not religion or ethnicity.
     
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    whats about shiia vs sunni fight?
     
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    It is not over "religious questions", it is still secular in nature.

    The Sunni minority have been in control of the nation for half a century, and they oppressed the Shi'ites. And they still want to be in charge (The Ba'ath Party in many ways still exists), and they want to be in charge. But they are not killing each other over religion itself, simply who is in control, how and why.

    And a lot of this is instigated by fringe groups like AQ who hate both sides equally because they want to be in charge with their own fanatical beliefs. This is much more tribal in nature then ethnic or religious.
     
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    like all other conflicts, ...its always about politic
     
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    No, not like all others. Somalia and Darfur are much more "ethnic" in nature, as was Cambodia and many of Saddam's battles (specifically with the Kurds and his Shi'ite population. And the same is also true in former Yugoslavia.

    So quite often it is nothing to do with politics.
     
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    take my words , it was pure political conflict , before the global power shift they all were just bunch of Yugos...

    can you right more?
     
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    "Just a bunch of Yugos"?

    [​IMG]

    And with this, I am now leaving this thread. No idea what you are trying to say, but obviously you are a bigoted individual who has a closed mind and does not like anybody who does not agree with you.

    Have a good day.
     
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    the same want to say about you . have a nice day
     
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    I always found the Hindu Muslim wars to be particularly ferocious.
    Probably because the people all seem to join in the fight, mob style.
    I mean like those peoples are ready to fight at a moments notice and without mercy.


    Moi :oldman:
     
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    history shows other-way , the Muslims have hunted them down like the wild animals for many 100s years
     
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    I think that Iraq's majority is Shia.
     
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    And you obviously have not been following the recent waves of Jats attacking Muslims and mosques, have you?
     
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    And that is exactly what I said, the minority Sunni were oppressing the Shi'a. By saying one was the minority, that generally infers that the other is in the majority.

    Unless of course we are talking about Lebanon. :eekeyes:
     
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    i did follow those waves, but its nothing compare 1000s of the Indian genocides
     
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    I was in the old Yugoslavia- and nobody there considered themselves "Yugolsavs"- they considered themselves Serbian, Croatian, etc- and fairly uniformly looked down on every other ethnic group in the former Yugoslavia. It is by sheer force of will and brutality that Tito managed to hammer them into a single political entity.
     
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    *laugh*

    People in that region have been fighting and killing each other for thousands of years. The Muslims and Hindus, the Hindus and Sikhs, the
    Sikhs and the Muslims, it is all a circle of violence.

    So other then once again singling out only one group in all of this only shows your bigotry.
    Yugoslavia was as much of a political force hammered together as the Soviet Union was. And just like the SU, when that central power ended (Marshal Tito in one, the Communist Party in the other) the state could no longer survive and returned to it's individual components.

    This is why when I refer to the region I normally use the phrase "former Yugoslavia". It is historical, and pretty neutral with no bias for or against any of the groups there today.
     
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    Muslims came as occupants and ruled like occupants. nothing could protect Hindu people
     
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    And the Sikhs were not? And the Hindu's did not persecute others (and even their own followers)?

    Sorry, all I see consistently is that you hate Muslims, and will blame them for everything and nobody else for anything.

    Try learning some history, then come back, ok?
     

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