Air pollution a leading cause of cancer - U.N. agency

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/17/us-cancer-pollution-idUSBRE99G0BB20131017


But according to Right-Wingers on this forum, pollution is all under control.
Therefore no need for EPA regulation. (Or any kind of regulation in their opinion)


Here is a typical Right-Winger response from this forum.....

 

Air pollution could soon become a major contributor to death...

Air Pollution Could Kill 6.6 Million People a Year by 2050
September 16, 2015 — Air contaminated with pollutants such as ozone and tiny particles could cause the premature death of about 6.6 million people a year by 2050 if nothing is done to improve air quality, scientists warned on Wednesday.

 

Indonesia Starts Legal Action Against Companies Generating Air Pollution...

Indonesia Starts Legal Action Against Companies Linked to SE Asia Haze
September 22, 2015 — Indonesia has ordered four companies to suspend operations for allegedly causing forest fires that have sent thick smoke across a swathe of Southeast Asia, an environment ministry official said on Tuesday.

See also:

In Thailand, Concerns Mount Over King's Health
September 22, 2015 — Concern is mounting in Thailand about the condition of King Bhumibol Adulyadej, who has reigned since 1946.

 

Forest fires choking the whole region...

Southeast Asia, Choking on Haze, Struggles for a Solution
OCT. 8, 2015 — Savir Singh’s taxi rolled into downtown Singapore, taking an overpass that provides a stunning view of the popular hotels and tourist attractions around Marina Bay.

 

The worse air pollution in the U.S. is in liberal bastions like L.A. They congregate, foul their water and their air and blame everyone else.

 

Nanosized aluminum chem-trails are contributing heavily to degenerative disease today...

Nanosized aluminum being sprayed in the atmosphere, causing degenerative disease, says neurosurgeon
July 15, 2013 - Back in the 1960’s, quiet scientific dialogue began about global climate change and how it can be manipulated. What might have turned into a productive discussion of responsible protection of Earth’s climate and ecosystem had eventually evolved into a mad, controlling science experiment.

 

Well from this so called right wingers point of view, air pollution in the US is largely under control and lumping us in with places like China is leftist propaganda. Always room for improvement though and I'm sure we will be doing evrn better ten years from now

 

Not quite true....but even if it was....get down on your knees and thank the EPA and their regulations restricting corporate air pollution for that result.

 

Yes indeed the EPA used to do real things to combat real pollution. Unfortunately as so often happens the leftist take over and now the EPA is a fascist beurocrocy obsessed with global warming and weakening America, really to bad.

 

Your rightwingnut crackpot conspiracy theories and deranged fantasies are so incredibly absurd and ludicrous....but you can't see that, can you? So brainwashed! So sad!

BTW, the OP was quite correct.

How air pollution can cause cancer
Cancer Research - UK
Last Reviewed - 24 March 2015

Air Pollution's Impact on Cancer Is "Grossly Underestimated"
Carcinogens are all around us, so scientists are broadening their ideas of environmental risk
Scientific American
By Rebecca Kessler
July 1, 2014 2

 

Step aside, elected Members of Congress. If you can’t pass cap and trade legislation, The Environmental Protection Agency will move in with massively complex and costly regulations that would micromanage just about every aspect of the economy. They announced today that carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases (GHGs) threaten public health and the environment.
http://dailysignal.com/2009/12/07/epa-formally-declares-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/

 

(...after removing all of the extraneous rightwingnut propaganda nonsense)

And they are quite right, as the world scientific community strongly affirms.

And they are doing the job that the Agency was mandated to do when it was created. Protect the public and our natural environment from any results of mankind's activities (which are sometimes called 'pollution') that threaten public health and the environment.

Virtually all of the climate scientists in the world (and pretty much all of the other scientists too) are in agreement that mankind's activities have increased atmospheric CO2 levels by over 43% higher (currently and still rising) than the pre-industrial CO2 levels, that had been fairly stable over the Holocene era. That increase upsets the natural homeostatic balance of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere that ordinarily helps to maintain climate stability, and that increase constitutes a form of 'pollution'. The world scientific community is also in nearly unanimous agreement that these elevated CO2 levels are responsible for the gradual acidification of the oceans as they absorb more and more CO2 from the air - which threatens the ocean food chain and mankind's seafood supplies, and for the abrupt, rapid, and accelerating global warming over the last century or so, and for its consequent currently occurring un-natural climate changes and disruptions that include accelerating worldwide ice melts and rising sea levels, increased severe droughts, increased flooding, increased severe wildfires, changing seasonal timing, and many other negative effects, all of which will get much worse and more extreme and more catastrophic as the warming continue to increase.....all of which very definitely "threaten public health and the environment"........making it very much the EPA's business to regulate. They don't need Congressional approval now.....they already have that from the very establisment of the Agency.

Your entire denier cult and all of the bamboozled dupes in it, plus all of the fossil fuel and other corporate industry stooges in Congress (who are always trying to block any effective actions to try to deal with the climate change crisis, like carbon taxes or even 'cap and trade'), are all just a front for the anti-regulatory agenda of the greedy/insane oil and coal and other industrial billionaires (like the Koch brothers) and corporate executives from many industries, who want to maximize their profits by once again having the 'freedom' to grossly pollute our air and water and natural environment....and even doom our descendents (if any) to a ruined, devastated, depopulated, mass extinction ravaged world.

 

So in the context of the OP you must believe C02 causes cancer. Declaring something every mammal on earth exhales a pollutant is not cleaning up the environment it is furthering a political leftist agenda.

 

Nope! Nothing in what I just said even faintly implies that, you poor confused ideologue.

No one has ever said that every single substance that can be accurately deemed a 'pollutant' causes cancer.

Moreover, the term "CO2 pollution" only applies to the excess CO2 - the 43% increase that mankind has caused by burning off 2000 billion tons of fossil fuel sourced carbon dioxide into the atmosphere since 1750 - which is causing rapid global warming and changing previously stable climate patterns.

Dealing with the climate change crisis, as almost 200 nations just pledged to do, is an endeavor based on the scientific evidence confirming the reality and dangers of human caused global warming and its consequent climate changes and disruptions. On the other hand, your confused anti-science denial of the reality of AGW/CC and its dangers is entirely driven by the crackpot rightwingnut anti-regulatory political agendas set by your corporate puppetmasters.

You are trying to create really absurd straw-man arguments that have nothing to do with reality.

Go argue with yourself!

 

So your answer is yes, every time you exhale you pollute

 

And the troll continues to argue with himself. LOLOL.

 

You say C02 is pollution so I suggest you stop breathing

 

tell the UN it is ok. We keep raising air standards in the west so all electrical prices keep increasing and magically all the air pollution goes to China along with the manufacturing that produces it. Yeah it's killing millions over there but at least we can get our UHDTV's at bargain prices at Costco . Just think the western world owes it all to the UN and it's man made AGW crusade, clean air and cheap TV's, the best of both worlds

 

some people watch too much fox news as that is not true

 

You are a hoot!

As I said before....

Moreover, the term "CO2 pollution" only applies to the excess CO2 - the 43% increase that mankind has caused by burning off 2000 billion tons of fossil fuel sourced carbon dioxide into the atmosphere since 1750 - which is causing rapid global warming and changing previously stable climate patterns.

 

CO2 was just the beginning.

It warmed up the oceans enough to allow Gel Form CH4...Methane...to bubble up from the bottom of all oceans and arctic lakes and from permafrost.

CH4 Gas hold heat in earth's atmosphere 72 times greater than CO2.

The problem is self sustaining and cannot be reversed.

Nothing we do can stop it as we have already passed a Threshold Level.

AboveAlpha

 

So how do you explain the EPA declaring CO2 a pollutant? That is nothing but politics and is a power grab beyond the realm.

 

Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions
“The oceans contain 37,400 billion tons (GT) of suspended carbon, land biomass has 2000-3000 GT. The atpmosphere contains 720 billion tons of CO2 and humans contribute only 6 GT additional load on this balance. The oceans, land and atpmosphere exchange CO2 continuously so the additional load by humans is incredibly small. A small shift in the balance between oceans and air would cause a CO2 much more severe rise than anything we could produce.” (Jeff Id)
https://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activites contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

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See post 23 and relax

 

so we should all just bend over and kiss our butts goodbye then ?

I would not be in too big a hurry to declare the Earth dead considering that during most of it's history CO2 was higher than today, I suggest you read something beside the cereal box science of half truths and selective documentation on real climate and do some independent investigation of the Cambrian explosion

http://dinosaurs.about.com/od/PaleozoicEra/a/Cambrian-Period.htm

The major evolutionary event of the Cambrian period was the "Cambrian Explosion," a rapid burst of innovation in the body plans of invertebrate organisms. ("Rapid" in this context means over the course of tens of millions of years, not literally overnight!) For whatever reason, the Cambrian witnessed the appearance of some truly bizarre creatures, including the five-eyed Opabinia, the spiky Hallucigenia, and the three-foot-long Anomalocaris, which was almost certainly the largest animal ever to appear on earth up to that time.

 

What is truly enlightening is to go back and look at pre 2008 Cambrian papers and temps and compare them to the "adjusted" 2008 and forward charts. Looks like the AGW community had to homogenize the temps then to match them up 10 - 12 F align with their "theories". Shame when people who call themselves scientists bow under to political pressure. The William Connely effect strikes again