[Murderers Claim] Teen Shot Himself in the Head While Handcuffed

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co...ndcuffed-seat-patrol-car/#RH5E6W3ldQGd8zz6.99

    So where did the weapons come from? How is someone, who is handcuffed, able to shoot themselves in the head?

    The police make some extraordinarily lame excuses to justify their crimes, in this case an extraordinary lie to cover up a murder.
     
  2. smallblue

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    Vincent Vega found himself in a very similar situation.
     
  3. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "What do you think Marvin? You think the hand of God came down and BLAM... oh... (*)(*)(*)(*)..."
     
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    Just saying, if his hands where cuffed behind his back, I'm gonna say it just might be physically impossible to shoot yourself in the head.
     
  5. Dispondent

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    I would think that a simple study of trajectory and geometry would answer the questions...
     
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    Just giving the benefit of the doubt... fumbling with an ankle gun one could use their head to push off the seat to create some working space behind ones back... it is also quite easy to transition from back to front if you are at all limber and not fat. Definitely want to see forensics.
     
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    On top of the fact that the level on incompetency that would be required to miss a hand gun during a frisk, let alone one that could be reached while handcuffed, seems beyond believable.
     
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    True, forensics should easily be able to confirm the claim with both trajectory and a gunshot residue test of the victim and the officers.
     
  9. DentalFloss

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    Agree. I know nothing of the case, this is the first I've heard of it, and thus I have no opinions. But, assuming, arguendo, that the suspect did in fact shoot himself in the head (and I can easily envision ways that might actually happen), the ballistics evidence will be pretty incontrovertible.
     
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    Ballistics and residue... agreed
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stupid compounds stupid; there are actually numerous possibilities in which such a thing could happen. At face value the situation seems highly improbable, but if you change a few variables it could be not only feasible, but realistic...
     
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    Ballistics for sure. I hope they took residue test at the scene. I'm not sure how long after the fact would residue remain on skin and clothing.
     
  13. smallblue

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    It could also easily be the case that they didn't perform a proper search before putting him in the car and are trying d to avoid an administrative disipline action that might result from that.
     
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    IF it's true that he shot himself with a non-department issued weapon, one of two things must be true. Either it was his weapon, and somehow he ended up in the back of the car without being properly searched. Or, the weapon was already in the seat, and he happened to find it. Either way, one or more officers is going to be in trouble.
     
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    You know how easy it would be to conform if one of the police officers shot him? You pull their magazine out and look. If there is a round missing….. their screwed.

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    Could be a rookie.
     
  16. Iron River

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    I'm gonna say that you are wrong. The easiest way to shoot yourself in the head if you want to, is to lay the gun barrel against your spine and lean your head back. It would not only be possible but simple. The hard part is to get a gun in the back seat of a cop car.
     
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    I dont have a problem believing someone could shoot themselves in the head with their hands tied behind them....but I have a hard time believeing the Police would have missed the gun when frisking and cuffing the person.
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    same situation happened in Arkansas last year, Police were cleared of any wrong doing by outside agencies. Here is a video on how someone could shoot themselves while handcuffed

    http://www.arkansasonline.com/videos/2012/aug/15/6671/
     
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    I might get that done but a young person could do it pretty easy.
     
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    There you go..Pretty simple.
     
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    So, the magical question is, is this where Wolverine acts like a man, admits he may have jumped the gun a bit, and decides, like a rational person, to wait until more facts are in? Or does he go to whatever means necessary to maintain his view which coincides with a juvenile hatred of cops?
     
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    Not necessarily. Although I'm not one of them, some are of the mindset that loading your mags to their full capacity puts too much strain on them and causes them to fail earlier than they would otherwise, so they intentionally load one round less than the full capacity. Although, if the bullet that hit him is recovered, the lans and grooves on the projectile will identify which weapon shot it with all but absolute certainty.
     
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    It's possible (some criminals have been known to be able to squeeze out of handcuffs), but the gun and type of ammo used would prove who's really guilty
     
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    Interesting
     
  25. Hafez

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    I rarely agree with you on anything wolverine. on this issue we are in unison!! Absolutely outrageous.!! These cops are murderous thugs of the state.
     

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