Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

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  1. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/26/federal-authorities-charge-white-knockout-suspect-/

    Are you kidding me? Anyone still want to argue that Holder isn't a full blown racist? There is nothing that can convince me otherwise.

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    According to the article the attacker stated:

    “The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?” Mr. Barrett says in the video, according to the authorities."

    By his own admission, He targed the victim because of his race. Textbook hate crime.
     
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    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    Blacks that were doing this stated the same thing. There was a group of black teens that attacked a white old man because he was white and they weren't chrged. They even admitted that was there reason, "They were out looking for white people to hit".
     
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    If they made those statements then they should have also been charged with hate crimes. But that doesn't mean what the attacker did in this case isn't a hate crime.
     
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    That isn't the point of the thread. The point is the double standard and blatant racism of this administration's DoJ.
     
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    They should have been charged, but they weren't. No problem, right? The double standard agrees with progressivism so it doesn't bother you too much.
     
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    got an article?
     
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    If a black attacker in a "knockout game" attack admitted to authorities that they chose their victim because they were white, then they should be charged with a hate crime.

    I already said that if the facts were the same as the case mentioned in the OP then the attackers should be charged with a hate crime.
     
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    I oppose the whole concept of "hate crimes." Maybe it's just me but the whole idea is Orwellian.
     
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    Hate crimes intimidate an entire group of people. They should not be categorized the same as normal crimes.


    If white/black/gay/christian/muslim/etc people are being attacked because they are white/black/gay/christian/muslim/etc, then that entire group is a victim of that crime.
     
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    Agreed.
    We already have punishments on the books for every kind of crime. Just go with those. No need to wonder what each person was thinking before they punched someone in the face...just punish them for punching in the face.

    But of course that doesn't give special treatment to the pet classes of today...so we cna't do that.
     
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    If someone is going around town murdering christians, then it causes fear among every christian in town. It's not the same as a normal crime.

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    Looks like you've silenced the double standard argument.
     
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    I don't believe that. Any crime can cause fear in those thinking they could be next. And of course your theory is proven untrue by all of the Black on White instances going without the Hate crime label.
     
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    You don't believe that?

    Don't you think that if someone was going around town murdering everyone with red hair, that it wouldn't cause more fear in people with red hair than peopel with blonde hair?
     
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    The above pretty much puts your story to rest.
     
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    This statement has absolutely nothing at all to do with anything I am talking about.
     
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    Sorry, but an entire group is not a victim of a crime. If a white guy gets cold-cocked by a black guy as part of a knock out game, the victim isn't every white person in town. But what's troubling is that unless the perp comes out and says, "yes, I hit him because he's white," You are never going to be clear of the motive. It could have been a bet, or he could have just been angry about something else. In any case, it's irrelevant to the actual crime committed. And what if he hits him and robs him? Does robbery clear the hate charges since that provides another motive?

    I wish you guys would stop trying to divide us by whether we're "white/black/gay/christian/muslim/etc." When you do that you are deliberately trying to set one group against another group. I find it offensive.
     
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    You don't get what I am saying, and aren't going to. I am right though. It's not something that is debatable.
     
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    if someone is attack simply due to their race, gender, nationality, sexuality, there should be extra penalties.
     
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    Nope.

    I dont believe Hate crimes are anything more than a layer of redundancy and special protections for the special pet groups.
     
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    Yep, and that beleif is preventing you from understanding what a hate crime is.

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    wordpress?
     
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    of course it does.
    If it is shown that black people are targeting whites....then your theory is that Whites would be more fearful, and thus we should add the Hate Crime layer to it.

    It isn't happening though. So either the angle of peoples fear is a sham...or Hate Crimes themselves is the sham. take your pick.
     
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    Wow, you found one. Stop pretending there isn't a double standard and a conscious decision to keep black on white crime hidden from the public as best as possible.

    http://topconservativenews.com/2013/08/horrific-near-fatal-hate-crime-mob-attack-in-st-paul/

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    Scared?
     

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