so whats with all the anti Zionist propaganda.

If you want to continue with anti Zionist anything fine.
but one should answer this one question.

Do Jews ,as do Arabs, have the right to have a sovereign state in the area we define as the mid east?

the mind numbing excuses for not answering this simple question, and the diverse inane definitions of the very term Jews …. is tantamount to the fact one has to agree that Yes Jews deserve a place to fly their flag… the anti Zionist cannot come to terms with the simple humane question..due to the propaganda that they are poisoned from.

a Zionist is just someone who believes in the fact they deserve a piece of land…
The Jews were granted a sliver of land compared to the Arab states. and the Zionist is a well deserved term to describe this patriot.

Jews and Arabs all come from the same area of the earth at one time.

the inane immigration of Jews from Europe posts would be welcome once again in this thread..it shows how stupid a person can be…i love it when you get some emotional idiot saying that Isral is created by europeans and they should go back to Europe…lol

so all these anti Zionist people with post after post is just this;

inept anti Israel propaganda…totally inept cause it uses a word to describe a common desire of all peoples…a patriotic love for a piece of land where they can be sovereign..

not only do some posters just deny Israel…they will not answer this one question…


do Jews ,like Arabs deserve a piece of land/

they refuse to answer due to propaganda so ingrained in their person they are blinded by it and become totally non thinking individuals…albeit intelligence still allows for a semblance of intellect to peek through…but the brain washing is so far ingrained it poisons them totally to reality..there by rendering them to look like they can't answer the question due to the fact it would be an admittance to stop the propaganda from poisoning them and their future offspring

how do you say it otherwise…


they will not answer this one question…
Do Jews ,like Arabs deserve a piece of land….

and by the way a Zionist is a term used to define someone that is patriotic towards their piece of deserved land..

now watch as ..certain anti Israel posters will not be answering this easy question and using the term Zionist like it's actually as bad as calling someone a proud American, or a proud Jordanian ..

even if they said in direct terms.
I admit Jews and Arabs both originate from the same area of the world..but No! Jews do not deserve any land of their own..the whole mid east is only for Arabs..
if they would say that , with truth in the fact they both originate from the same area and not some arcane meandering around the truth ..

i could live with this…

No!!! Jews don't deserve land like Arabs do.
i could live with this honesty..
but it's the evasive dishonesty of the matter..and this corruption of the Term Zionist..like it's a bad word or something…ignorance and propaganda from some posters here...

 

What's good about it, then?

 

Arabs found a new trick.
To talk against Jews, Christians or other religion is racism, so Arabs attack Israel and Zionism.
Let them stay in their sub Level countries with their dark Shariah, Let them continue treating their women like dogs, let them
try ( and fail ) to be democrats, let them continue their hatred instead of seeking peace.
Allah the mighty will take care of them.

 

King David was so handsome some thought he was a woman

 

Taking land that is already occupied by other people is a problem.. .. Just as refugee populations anywhere are a problem.

Arabs didn't "deserve" land.. they already lived there for 2,000 years.

When people arrive seeking sanctuary, they are foolish to abuse the locals and force them off the land... No end of conflict...

 

Lies !!
Palestinians never lived in that area.
They are bedouin who migrated from Egypt ( into Gaza ) , and from Syria, Jordan and Iraq ( to the Israeli west bank ).

 

Oh I agree that was a criminal act.. but can you ignore the 80 years that preceded such a vile act?


The Zionists are in no way innocent of abusing the Palestinians from early on.. Their objective was always to expel them and create a "Jewish" state.

 

An Israeli jewish state will thrive and flourish forever.
If Arabs can call their country "the Muslim Republic of .." then Jews also can.
Palestinians almost dominate Jordan, they constitute a majority of the population.
This is their country.
They came fron their, and that's where they need to go.
This is the ONLY true solution to the conflict in the Middle East.

 

there are no personal attacks towards your person, i don;t tolerate your posting is all..it's evasive..

you will not answer the question…


where did i say Jewish people or Arabs have any more or less entitlement to a sovereign state.
no where..

so you insult me with your ad hominems …twice…
is that a personal attack by me pointing this out..


answer me this Margot2

Do Jews have entitlement to a piece of land in the mid east like the Arabs do….to use your words..

yes or no

you can't answer this due to brainwashing hatred towards Jews…

or is there another reason you can't say yes or no

come now ..go for it..the big yes or no answer will shut me up and show me that you deserve respect..

the thing is the fact you cannot say either shows me that there is a humanity in you…for if the poison was as deep as i say it is…you would say No! with no feeling..but you know thats wrong so you stay quiet..

there is a glimmer of hope for you. you know Zionist have every right to be Zionists

 

How many states do the Jews need?

 

how many do they actually have…one at my last count…a sliver of land…

notice those most vocal against Zionism are the quietest now..
notice the complete lack of answering a simple question..

Do Arabs have a right to sovereign states and do Jews get the right to have one?

I asked Margot2 and Marlowe to answer a simple question over and over …they reply with arcane off topic hatred…

and now total silence…


see one can win a debate and teach at the same time..

 

when you say create a Jewish state, what about create Arab sovereign states all over the mid east..

so arabs can "Create" states but the Jews cannot "Create " one measly sliver of land…

Your point is what exactly?
Zionist wanted a piece of land…Britain and the world gave them a sliver of land whilst they gave huge swaths of state after state to the Arabs..
And thats not good enough for you…


it's only hatred of a people , a misguided hatred of a people that you would deny them a sliver of land..


and you can;t answer that one question…the whole forum watches as you squirm your way away from answering it…

you can't ..

 

Arabs did not create an Arab State.. They had always lived in the region.. My family left England during the war of the Roses.. They went to Holland and then on to New Amsterdam. Can I return to England and claim land and property?

Nobody is squirming.. I am leaving for Texas, packing now and its minus 5 degrees F outside.

 

So I cannot input or contradict Zionist or Talmud crud!

Mmmmm...... Interesting!

But then a one sided argument, judgement or policy?

Democracy, truth honour, none!

Regards
Highlander

 

All nationalist movements are wrong and they should be condemned , dividing people by nationality and religion is ridiculous .

 

Ill answer your question.

They absolutely do not deserve a piece of land, especially when they've taken it from the majority who already lived there and opposed their having a piece of land.

Is that clear enough for you? No they do not, as jews, deserve any particular piece of land. In the same way as Christians don't either, or muslims.

 

I'll answer your BS.
You Arabs deported them from Arab countries,
Nazi killed them in Europe with the support of the Palestinian Mufti.
They came to Israel. They will stay their forever.
Deal with it.
Your hatred is the cause to your misery.

 

You dont even know what a jew is mickey.

 

Israel is not a sovereign state - its a United States dependency . It cannot survive without US Tax dollar + Washington's support.

Jews have no right to forcibly displace/dispossess /expel /ethnic cleanse - indigenous non-Jewish majority in Palestine and continue stealing more land beyond its UN recognised 1967 borders.


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Quite so . (wink)

"
"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

Albert Einstein

(but Einstein did not tell us how the disease of nationalism should be treated/eradicated)

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says the guy who thinks a Jew isn't Jewish, a Scot isn't Scottish, a Spaniard isn't Spanish, a Turk isn't Turkish, a Pole isn't Polish, a Kurd isn't Kurdish, and a Swede isn't Swedish.

 

There are 5-6 times as many Jews living in America as there are in Israel. Probably the same for Europe, not counting Russia and the former Soviet states where there are millions more. I'm not inclined to believe the Jews need (or really want) Israel when there are so many who do not live in Israel. It's a game you're playing.

 

did isay you could speak?

back in the corner.

 

I don't take orders from you.

I shall speak when I desire, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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actually, both Israel and the USA have around 6 million Jews.

 

who is a jew
the eternal question, if you want to know the answer it is in the bible.