Attempt to ban use of the word ' Nazi ' in Israel

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.



    Martin Niemöller (att)


    First they removed Nazism from history and I did not speak out - because I was not a Nazi..........

    Clearly, this suggested law is an attempt by fascists to insulate themselves from criticism. NeoZionism is a fascist ideology. Zionism itself was declared racist by the United Nations in 1975 ( repealed due to AIPAC pressure decades later). When a society attempts to remove political terms from language it is testing the waters for its plan to remove political opponents.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeap. yeap. Everyone's talking about it. Pundits are full of righteous fury at Israel squelching free speech...

    Meanwhile, the great, tolerant country of Malaysia just banned non-Moslems from using 40 (forty!) words, reserved for exclusive use by moslems, and mum's the word - no-one is so much as mentioning it. MUST... NOT... ANGER... MOSLEMS...

    Here's some of the banned words that non-moslems will face criminal persecution for, if use them...

    "SOLAT", "Surau", "Masjid", "Firman Allah", "Ulama", "Hadith", "Ibadah", "Kaabah", "Qadhi'", "Illahi", "Wahyu", "Mubaligh", "Syariah", "Qiblat", "Haji", "Mufti", "Rasul", "Iman", "Dakwah", "Wali", "Fatwa", "Imam", "Nabi", "Sheikh", "Khutbah", "Tabligh", "Akhirat", "Azan", "Al Quran", "As Sunnah", "Auliya'", "Karamah", "Syahadah", "Baitullah", "Musolla", "Zakat Fitrah", "Hajjah", "Taqwa" and "Soleh".

    And, of course, "ALLAH" :hmm:
     
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    B-But that is different because well . . . Jews! Alas that's sort of becoming the kneejerk response of the Left in principle if not always in the specific. A general sense that the Israeli government should do things differently perhaps in regards to their dealings with their neighbors gradually morphed into an increasingly open and general disdain for Jews in general . . . and that's a troubling trend on the Left.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's exactly right. Now, could someone tell me what is different in principle in banning word "Nazi" and banning word "Allah"? And if there's no principal difference, where's the international outrage over Malaysia's intolerance toward non-moslems?
     
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    While you don't understand the law your message is clear, you hate Jews.....good for you. Now go away.
     
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    Hypocrisy is not just a medical oath taken by hippopotami. Can one seriously see leftwingers criticizing the collective cultural decision of the government system of brown-skinned people? Remember if the decision harms westerners or adherents of western culture in general then that's usually perceived to be a good thing by the Left. So it goes. Um . . . I'm not being too cynical about this am I?
     
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    LOL, none of that is remotely true.
     
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    Really? Oh that's all right then. What a relief! Riiiiiiiiiiight!
     
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    Well, it's only aimed at preventing people using it in an 'inappropriate' way. But the wording is far too vague. I'll bet the government will get to define it liberally in cases to persecute activists with no Nazi leanings. One minute you'd be comparing Israel's treatment of the Palestinans to some of the Nazi's treatment of Jews.. And bam, you're in jail.
     
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    Zionists are modern Nazis as both feel they are "the chosen people" who do not need to abide by any moral code or law

    Either way it does not matter because the Palestinian Israelites will outbreed the Zionist cowards. Israel will not survive this century.
     
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    Glad we agree, you werent going to expand in detail your specific arguments anyway, so lets move on.
     
  12. Dutch

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    And how does the following correlates with your signature? :roflol:

    Israel was not created in order to disappear - Israel will endure and flourish.
    It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by
    adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy
    and it honors the sword of freedom.

    JFK
     
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    Kennedy made no mention of the lawless lunatic Zionist fanatics who believe they have a right to do anything and go anywhere they please because of some insane belief in a Biblical imperative.
    They are emphatically not representative of level-headed, rational and sane, moderate Israelis.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But of course he made no mention of Zionist fanatics; even being a Democrat, he was a smart one and knew there's no such thing.
     
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    That's not my message. That's just a possible interpretation of my message by morons.

    Further , I'm rather fond of jews. It's scum-sucking , ethnic cleansing, neoZionist murderers and their crawlers which engender hatred.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone on PF board must be a moron, Moon, since everyone is interpreting your message in a single, same way :)
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Speak for yourself.
     
  18. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK fine; I still speak for at least half PF, a better one :)
     
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    Moon, I think you've got it all wrong, so let's look at the definition of Fascism according to the Marriam Webster Dictionary:

    Full Definition of FASCISM

    "... A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual..."


    Hmmm! Aren't the Muslims the ones who exalt their Arabic medieval culture above others?:confuse:

    "... and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, ..."

    Uhhh! Sounds like Islam again. :confuse:

    "...severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition...."

    Oh no, it's Islam once again. :confuse:
     
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    Man, very soon in Israel you won't able to talk of Jesus of Nazirene...
     
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    It's called the "Jewish state".. putting Jews over all others in Israel. No muslim nation does that.
    The Christian / Jewish west paid massive amounts of money to dictators who bought massive amounts of weapons from Christian / Jewish nations to violently oppress the population. That is not similar to the fascist idea that the people like to have a dictator. And the Christian / Jewish west helped out such dictators all over the world... to support fascists.
     
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    Yeah, but Israel began as a Zionist project.
     
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    So you're saying the Islamic nations are not Fascist. They do not put Muslims above everyone else, and that non Muslims have the same rights? Interesting! :confuse:

    So you're saying the Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia are not Fascists. They are democracies and change their leader every few years in contrast to Israel who has a dictator? Interesting! :confuse:
     
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    It was repealed because the only reason why it passed in the first place is because of the Soviet Union and two other dictator clubs IE the OIC and the Organization of African Unity, once the Soviet Union fell the majority of the former states it occupied voted to repeal it, Zionism is nothing more than support for the Jewish peoples right of self determination, the right of Israel to exist and to continue to exist.

    I'm willing to bet that this is an attempt to prevent the Arab-Nazi's the majority of which hate Jews (not Zionists but Jews) and who still to this day idolize the Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem from flying the Nazi flag or spreading Nazi propaganda the same way many on this forum do on a daily basis.
     
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    "In his address to the United Nations General Assembly the same day, November 10, 1975, Israeli Ambassador Chaim Herzog stated:

    "I can point with pride to the Arab ministers who have served in my government; to the Arab deputy speaker of my Parliament; to Arab officers and men serving of their own volition in our border and police defense forces, frequently commanding Jewish troops; to the hundreds of thousands of Arabs from all over the Middle East crowding the cities of Israel every year; to the thousands of Arabs from all over the Middle East coming for medical treatment to Israel; to the peaceful coexistence which has developed; to the fact that Arabic is an official language in Israel on a par with Hebrew; to the fact that it is as natural for an Arab to serve in public office in Israel as it is incongruous to think of a Jew serving in any public office in an Arab country, indeed being admitted to many of them. Is that racism? It is not! That ... is Zionism."

    In his response he also said that the resolution was:

    "another manifestation of the bitter anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish hatred which animates Arab society. Who would have believed that in this year, 1975, the malicious falsehoods of the 'Elders of Zion' would be distributed officially by Arab governments? Who would have believed that we would today contemplate an Arab society which teaches the vilest anti-Jewish hate in the kindergartens? ... We are being attacked by a society which is motivated by the most extreme form of racism known in the world today"

    Herzog ended his statement, while holding a copy of the resolution, with these words:

    "For us, the Jewish people, this resolution based on hatred, falsehood and arrogance, is devoid of any moral or legal value. For us, the Jewish people, this is no more than a piece of paper and we shall treat it as such."
     

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