The last Biplane attack....

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  1. SFJEFF

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    Got this as an email forward- and unlike most of these, this is a cool story- and might even be true

    By Lawrence E. Pence - Colonel, USAF (Ret)

    For most servicemen who served in Vietnam , the Freedom Bird was that
    civil airliner which took them back to the land of the big PX at the
    end of their tour. Mine was a bit different sort of Freedom Bird.

    In mid-1967, as a junior Air Force Captain, I was detailed to 7th AF
    Hq in Saigon as an Air Technical Intelligence Liaison Officer, short
    name: ATLO (the "I" gets left out, as people look strangely at anyone
    who calls himself an ATILO, thinking he is somehow related to Atilla
    the Hun). My job was to provide 7AF and the air war the best technical
    intelligence support that the Foreign Technology Division of AF
    Systems Command (my parent organization) could provide, in whatever
    area or discipline needed. Also I was to collect such technical
    intelligence as became available. This was a tall order for a young
    Captain, and this assignment provided much excitement, including the
    Tet Offensive.

    At that time, Operation Rolling Thunder was underway, the bombing of
    military targets in North Vietnam . The weather in NVN was often
    lousy, making it difficult to find and accurately strike the assigned
    targets, so a radar control system was set up to direct the strike
    force to their targets.

    This system was installed in a remote, sheer-sided karst mountain just
    inside Laos on the northern Laos/NVN border. The site could be
    accessed only by helicopter or a tortuous trail winding up the
    near-vertical mountainside, so it was judged to be easily defensible.

    The mountaintop was relatively flat and about 30 acres in size. On it
    was a tiny Hmong village called Phu Pha Ti, a small garrison of Thai
    and Meo mercenaries for defense, a helicopter pad and ops shack for
    the CIA-owned Air America Airline, and the radar site, which was
    manned by "sheep-dipped" US Air Force enlisted men in civilian
    clothes. Both the US and NVN paid lip service to the fiction that Laos
    was a neutral country, and no foreign military were stationed there,
    when in reality we had a couple of hundred people spread over several
    sites, and NVN had thousands on the Ho Chi Minh trail in eastern Laos.
    This particular site was called Lima (L for Laos ) Site 85. The
    fighter-bomber crews called it Channel 97 (the radar frequency), and
    all aircrews called it North Station, since it was the furthest north
    facility in "friendly" territory. Anywhere north of North Station was
    bad guy land.

    The Channel 97 radar system was an old SAC precision bomb scoring
    radar which could locate an aircraft to within a few meters at a
    hundred miles. In this application, the strike force would fly out
    from Lima Site 85 a given distance on a given radial, and the site
    operators would tell the strike leader precisely when to release his
    bomb load. It was surprisingly accurate, and allowed the strikes to be
    run at night or in bad weather.

    This capability was badly hurting the North Vietnamese war effort, so
    they decided to take out Lima Site 85. Because of the difficulty of
    mounting a ground assault on Lima Site 85, and its remote location, an
    air strike was planned. Believe it or not, the NVNAF chose biplanes as
    their "strike bombers!"

    This has to be the only combat use of biplanes since the 1930's. The
    aircraft used were Antonov designed AN-2 general purpose 'workhorse"
    biplanes with a single 1000hp radial piston engine and about one ton
    payload. Actually, once you get past the obvious "Snoopy and the Red
    Baron" image, the AN-2 was not a bad choice for this mission. Its
    biggest disadvantage is, like all biplanes, it is slow. The Russians
    use the An-2 for a multitude of things, such as medevac, parachute
    training, flying school bus, crop dusting, and so on
    An AN-2 just recently flew over the North Pole. In fact, if you
    measure success of an aircraft design by the criteria of number
    produced and length of time in series production, you could say that
    the AN-2 is the most successful aircraft design in the history of
    aviation!

    The NVNAF fitted out their AN-2 "attack bombers with a 12 shot 57mm
    folding fin aerial rocket pod under each lower wing, and 20 250mm
    mortar rounds with aerial bomb fuses set in vertical tubes let into
    the floor of the aircraft cargo bay. These were dropped through holes
    cut in the cargo bay floor. Simple hinged bomb-bay doors closed these
    holes in flight.

    The pilot could salvo his bomb load by opening these doors. This was a
    pretty good munitions load to take out a soft, undefended target like
    a radar site. Altogether, the mission was well planned and equipped
    and should have been successful, but Murphy's Law prevailed.

    A three plane strike force was mounted, with two attack air-craft and
    one standing off as command and radio relay. They knew the radar site
    was on the mountaintop, but they did not have good intelligence as to
    its precise location, It was well camouflaged, and could not be seen
    readily from the air. They also did not realize that we had
    "anti-aircraft artillery" and "air defense interceptor" forces at the
    site. Neither did we realize this.

    The AN-2 strike force rolled in on the target, mistook the Air America
    ops shack for the radar site, and proceeded to ventilate it. The
    aforementioned "anti-aircraft artillery" force - one little Thai
    mercenary about five feet tall and all balls- heard the commotion, ran
    out on the helicopter pad, stood in the path of the attacking aircraft
    spraying rockets and bombs everywhere, and emptied a 27-round clip
    from his AK-47 into the AN-2, which then crashed and burned.

    At this juncture, the second attack aircraft broke off and turned
    north towards home.

    The "air defense interceptor" force was an unarmed Air America Huey
    helicopter which was by happenstance on the pad at the time, the pilot
    and flight mechanic having a Coke in the ops shack. When holes started
    appearing in the roof, they ran to their Huey and got airborne, not
    quite believing t he sight of two biplanes fleeing north. Then the
    Huey pilot, no slouch in the balls department either, realized that
    his Huey was faster than the biplanes! So he did the only thing a real
    pilot could do -attack!

    The Huey overtook the AN-2's a few miles inside North Vietnam ,
    unknown to the AN-2's as their rearward visibility is nil. The Huey
    flew over the rearmost AN-2 and the helicopter's down-wash stalled out
    the upper wing of the AN-2.

    Suddenly the hapless AN-2 pilot found himself sinking like a stone! So
    he pulled the yoke back in his lap and further reduced his forward
    speed. Mean-while, the Huey flight mechanic, not to be outdone in th
    macho contest, crawled out on the Huey's skid and, one-handed, emptied
    his AK-47 into the cockpit area of the AN-2, killing or wounding the
    pilot and copilot. At this point, the AN-2 went into a flat spin and
    crashed into a mountainside, but did not burn.

    A couple of firsts: (1) The first and only combat
    shootdown of a biplane by a helicopter, and (2) The first known CIA
    air-to-air victory.
     
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    The most succesful aircraft design in the history of military aviation belongs to the C-130. It's been in continuous production in one variant or anotjher, for over 50 years. It's been to both poles by the way and is currently in use by over 70 countries. .The C-130 production run has exceeded that of the An-2, and currently stands in the Guiness Book of World Records as the longest continuous production of any military aircraft, in the history of aviation.
     
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    They used WW II aircraft in Nam, that I knew, but never heard this biplane story. Thanks for posting it.
     
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    Yeah- both the use of the biplanes- and having them shot down by a helicopter.....interesting weird stuff.
     
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    I believe the story is true, however the UH-1 "Huey" has a top speed of around 150 mph, while the An-2, around 160 mph. Given the head start the aircraft had, and assuming the aircraft had no mechanical issues, I'm suprised the helicopter could catch up, unless the aircraft crew were at cruise speed, not bothering to check their six with a few rudder slips. Perhaps they deserved to get "shot down" with such ambivalence to their situational awareness. I have heard this story did indeed happen.
     
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    Pretty cool story; thanks for sharing it with us.
     
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    Cool Story, needs verification and a 10 minute short done in its honor.

    Well assuming he caught up to the 2nd attack craft it had quite the payload and those external pods probably did wonders on its profile.
     
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    Actually, the Colt has been used since then.

    In 1991-1992 Croatia converted AN-2 Colt's to be used as crude bombers, conducting several missions in that way.

    http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19911202-1

    [video=youtube;_b6XCkrmdD4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b6XCkrmdD4#t=47[/video]

    I have participated in exercises against this craft, the things are amazing, but their use is fairly limited on a modern battlefield.
     
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