Why "women's rights" instead of "gender rights"

Why single out "women" when it comes to rights if the issue is really about gender equality? Why not go along with the political correct trend and just change the name to "gender rights" or something along those lines that's all-inclusive?

Why does being born with a different set of genitals between your legs an issue of grave significance to a lot of liberals who're supposedly about "equality" - yet feel the need to emphasize the "women" aspect of "women" - if they're all about "people" and equality" then why does the type of genitalia a person has mean such a great deal of significance?

 

Isn't, "women's rights," what is politically correct.

Gender rights makes it sound as though men have problems. Since, according to feminists, the world is a patriarchy, men don't have problems.Their lives are perfect, every one of their lives is perfect because they're privileged.

According to feminists men are the problem.

 

In Denmark, left wing feminists won't shut up about how unfairly they're treated, how unfair their wages are, how unfair their employment is etc. etc.
Yet they won't mention our national service/compulsory military training, which is stated in the constitution and of course only evolves men. Feminism isn't about women or gender rights, it is a theory that all evil in the world comes from creatures with penises, and good comes from creatures with vaginas.

 

This has the sound of a falsehood. People who have to lie to make a point dont have a point, except about themselves.

 

No it has the sound of accuracy.

This is why feminists never fight for or support equality

 

The same applies to you as to that other purveyor of falsehood.

 

I have stated no falsehood.

 

The first line is agreeing with a falsehood, the second is stating one.

 

The first line and second line are both truths.

 

....why not gender rights....?


because it's not about actual equality... it's about getting one up on evil men.

 

Not only do the "men" here have to snivel, they have to make up
falsehoods in order to claim a point.

No wonder they get nothing but contempt from women.

 

I think it depends on what the discussion is about. Women's/Girl's rights would be things that generally affect them like pregnancy and abortion, or the issue of 'gendercide' in countries like China and India where baby girls and little girls are directly targeted. Men's/Boy's rights would be things like them retaining the right to govern their autonomy and not be forced under the knife and circumcised as infants, or the right to not be prejudicially targeted by the government and must register for Selective Service just because they are male.

Gender rights would be issues that encompass both genders, of which I cannot think of anything specific at the moment, except perhaps gay and lesbians, Male to Female transsexuals and Female to Male transsexuals. The issues they face encompass both of their genders.

 

That's quite the generalized statement to make. Perhaps these few individual men complain a lot here, but many men do face great hardships in life that directly affect only their specific gender. It may not be social prejudice, but there are things like the fact that more men successfully commit suicide every year than women do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide

It is always good to look into the reasons why people are killing or hurting themselves, no matter what genitals they have. But it certainly must be noted that men do have more successful rates in killing themselves than women do and we should be asking ourselves why? And what are the motivations behind why they are killing themselves? Because they lost their job? Economic problems? Can't support their family? Lost everything in a divorce? Etc.

It would be wrong to say men don't have their fair share of problems too. And we can categorize even deeper with things like how their race and gender affect them, or their religion and gender, etc.


As far as I can tell most human beings are just trying to get through life without suffering preconceived prejudice or hate from others for no real reason.

 

More Men commit suicide every year because our brains are hardwired to be capable of doing this to a much greater extent then women.

Most likely just as many Women as Men contemplate Suicide but Men are more capable of carrying such a thing out.

AboveAlpha

 

why not "the terrorist act" instead of "the patriot act"

 

Is that really why men are doing it?

 

It was addressed at the OP, just written in "3rd person" instead of "2nd person" to skirt the rules - But I'll think about what you said, thanks.

If feminism seeks equality, then the type genitalia the individuals have is irrelevant - right? lol, I'm an equal opportunity sh-ttalker - people can take what they dish out and if they can't that's on them - sound fair?

 

That's completely wrong. Some feminists are like that, but to assume that's representative of all feminism is just bias. Feminism of years past was a response to a very male dominated world, one that still exists today in some areas, more in others.

I don't know about in Denmark, but there is still a healthy amount of female bias in the United States, though obviously diminished from what it once was. And there are also more than one form of "feminist". You have the radical ones, like you gave an example of, and then you have the ones who actually do want things to be equal. For them it's not about punishing men, it's about men and women having the same fair shot at something. I am one of those as well.

It also doesn't help that you have many religions who reinforce a patriarchal view of the world. Feminism is necessary to maintain a balance, just like maleism(made it up) would be if women had been dominating the world for centuries.

 

all true and good; i was referring to our misogyn whiners here. certainly not to men in general, who in general probably would have the same sort of contempt for the silly whiners and liars.

And the "facts" that they make up.

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see why I keep him on ig? i certainly would not post anything to him.

 

Women want equal rights.

Simple as that.

 

Some people are too simple for that. Others may be morally weak, or simply insane.

 

If [feminists] want equal rights, then why do they look at inequalities favoring women as victories. For example, feminists look at the post secondary gender achievment gap in education that favors women as a victory???

 

Feel free to provide the quotes to convince us.

 

My guess why women attempt suicide more often than men, but many times more men are successful at actually killing themselves is women generally recieve sympathy when they attempt suicide, and men don't get sympathy when they attempt suicide , therefore men are more motivated to be successful, and women are more motivated to be unsuccessful.

For example, you don't have to go any further than this forum to see men being called, "whiners," "losers," "non-men," ec cetera, ec cetera, ec cetera by feminists on this forum when they attempt to discuss issues concerning men.

I read an article created by a feminist about men's much higher suicide rate and she was equally as unsympathetic, to put it nicely. In fact, she used some of the same adjectives feminists use to describe men who discuss issues concerning men in this forum.

 

I am amazed at your take on this section here. You are the one that creates reams of threads complaining about women until the cows come home... and here you are claiming that we jump on your attempts to discuss issues concerning men. That's disingenuous.

You don't start threads to 'discuss issues concerning men.' You start threads to bash feminists. And women respond to the nonsense.

If I started reams of threads here bashing men you'd have 'something' to complain about. But as it is, you are the one that can't control your need to start thread after thread bashing away at women. It's frankly tiring. And getting particularly dull. Stop trying to play the victim here. Go take a look at all your 'condemning' threads of women you start here. And stop with the disingenuous nonsense that you're trying to discuss issues concerning men.