scientific evidence of God

The naysayers want scientific evidence of God? Here it is. This proves that the scientific evidence supports Believers claims that God exists.

http://toptenproofs.com/article_godsexistence.php

Scientific Evidence of God
By Bob Dutko

While Intelligent Design skeptics may claim there is no evidence of God, the actual scientific evidence for God's existence is overwhelming, scientifically answering the question, "does God exist?".

In science there is a Law of Physics called the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. Within it is a Conservation of Energy Law that states, as a key principle that all energy in a closed system must be conserved. Okay, fancy language, but what does that mean? It means that while energy can convert into matter (physical “stuff”), and matter into energy, however much total “stuff” there is (matter and energy), there can never be an increase in that total amount or a decrease in that total amount. So however much total “stuff” there is in the universe, (matter and energy combined), there can never have been more and never have been less. All it can do is convert to different forms, like matter to energy or energy to matter, but the total amount of all of it has to remain the same.

The “closed system” is a scientific term that refers to a system or an “area” that has no outside influence, like the universe. Now, as believers we know, of course, that God does influence the universe, so many believers would consider the universe an “open system”, (one that does get outside influence), but for the atheist who says there is no God, the universe is all there is, so from their perspective and for the sake of conventional science, the universe would get no outside influence and would therefore be considered a “closed system”.

Back to the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. If it states that you can never have an increase or decrease of energy/matter, which means that matter/energy can not be created from nothingness, how did we get all the matter and energy in the universe? If science is all there is and there is no God, then the 1st Law of Thermodynamics reigns supreme and therefore it would be impossible to have matter and energy in existence right now. Simply put, when you open your eyes and see matter and experience energy, what you see is impossible according to the known Laws of science if, in fact, there is no God. Therefore, science itself says there must be a God.

Plain and simple, matter/energy can not come into existence. It is scientifically impossible, yet here we see everything around us, so how can that be? There are really only 3 possibilities. Option A: Everything came into existence by itself anyway, without the help of God, (even though science has proven that impossible). Option B: Everything in the universe has always existed for all of eternity, (which, by the way is also scientifically impossible as explained in the Top Ten Proofs for God's Existence CD due to something called the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics), or Option C: There must be a God, a Being greater than science, who created the Laws of science and has the ability to disobey them. Not only is a belief in God the only logical conclusion to draw, it's the only one scientifically possible because remember, if there is no God, the first two options are scientifically impossible according to the actual Laws of Physics.

Believe it or not, a 5 year old child could be an atheistic scientist's worst nightmare by merely asking him “where did everything come from if God didn't make it?” What that child is actually asking in scientific terms is “how do we have a violation of the 1st Law of Thermodynamics by the creation of energy and matter in the closed system of the universe if there is no Creator capable of doing that?”

Many times people who do not believe there is evidence of God have claimed that a faith in God is only a matter of faith and that it can not be proven scientifically. They say "does God exist ?....if so, prove it to me". When confronted with this, we must fully understand what it means to “prove” something. The fact is that none of us were there when the universe came into being, so technically, none of us can “prove” what happened. We can't “prove” God did it and the atheists can't “prove” everything came into being on it's own, so what we have to do is examine the evidence based on science to determine the most plausible explanation. For example, if I see a beautiful sand castle on the beach with intricate design, but no one there along with it, I can not “prove” someone made it, just as someone else can not “prove” the sand castle made itself from the wind, waves and sand randomly interacting with one another, so we have to determine what logic and reason tell us is the most plausible explanation, based on scientific evidence and examination. You can get over an hour of scientific, mathemetical and logical evidence for God in the <Top Ten Proofs for God's Existence.

This is just one simple example of scientific evidence for God's existence out of many that can help you defend the faith with evidence of God based on science and logic, not just faith

 

" If science is all there is and there is no God, then the 1st Law of Thermodynamics reigns supreme and therefore it would be impossible to have matter and energy in existence right now."

This logically false statement is the crux of the entire post. The fact that its a total non-sequitur renders that entire screed invalid.

 

How so?

 

Well, words like "therefore" are meant to indicate that the following statement is a logical result of the preceding one. In this case, it is not. That's called a 'non-sequitur', which IIRC is fancy-talk for "does not follow", and it's a logical fallacy.

 

None of the OP shows any actual scientific evidence for God.

we need facts, numbers, data, analysis.

Creationists have none.

There is no scientific evidence, NONE...ZERO, that the Universe was created in 6 sets of 24 hours.

No evidence...means it didn't happen.

 

So who is this God? The God of Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Flying Spaghetti Monster... ?

 

A couple of things. First, we don't know that the universe is a closed system. Second, we don't know that the energy/matter in the universe necessarily came from somewhere. It may have always existed, just like the gods that theists claim have always existed.

So, no, there isn't any evidence for the existence of anything anyone would meaningfully call a god. There are two giant gaps in our collective human knowledge of the universe, and theists are trying to claim their gods live in them.

 

If there is "scientific evidence" of God's existance....


then faith is worthless, right?

 

Yeah, not so much. How about you run this by a physicist or cosmologist and watch then explode into laughter.

http://toptenproofs.com/article_godsexistence.php

Evangelical Apologetic Radio talk show moron - apparently with a degree in Asshatery

ID design is nothing more than Creation made to sound all "sciency" so the can attempt to slip it into the public school systems as real science. It's not...as ruled in Dover vs. Kitzmiller. See also. "Cdesign Proponentists"

mmmmmmmmm....wait for it....

....wait for it.....

...BOOYAH!..."Gawd done it! We don't actually have the answer but, gawd done until we do!" So, asserting a truth claim in the context of not having the actual evidence, is valid logic? Yeah, no.

Kinda like, 250 years ago, Gawd created all things and man at the same time...and then Science explained what really happened. How'd that work for ya?

Of course it is!...and Unicorn and Leprechauns exist unless you can prove the don't! Go ahead, just try!

Of course, you have to actually prove the 1LoT was actually violated. Well? Oh, while you're at it, show us evidence for that gawd...and try not be circular.

Well then, what is your measurement that determines what is designed and what is not? Is a grain of sand designed? Your "Top Ten" is nothing other than assertions and logical fallacies.

...and it's a bad one predicated on things we don't yet know, misunderstanding of 1Lot and fact-less assertions. Time for you to jump back on the jeebus!


PS...Oh, by the way...you can purchase Bob "really, its just to cover expenses" Dutko "Top Ten" for $169 US Beans!!!....FOR EFFIN REAL!!!!

The ChriStian way....

 

Mockery is not a refutation of the science you are trying to debunk. So how long have you been a cosmetologist?

 

The 1st 2 paragraphs made some assumptions that can't be said true or false.

The &#8220;closed system&#8221; is a scientific term that refers to a system or an &#8220;area&#8221; that has no outside influence, like the universe. Now, as believers we know, of course, that God does influence the universe, so many believers would consider the universe an &#8220;open system&#8221;, (one that does get outside influence), but for the atheist who says there is no God, the universe is all there is, so from their perspective and for the sake of conventional science, the universe would get no outside influence and would therefore be considered a &#8220;closed system&#8221;.

Most don't close their minds to think the universe is all there is. Why would anyone educated say such a thing?
False proof of God.

 

Really?...Making a knowledge claim based on not knowing something, is intellectually dishonest. Furthermore, to offer up ANY supernatural being as a valid explanation of a natural event, would mean you have to actually provide evidence and the requirement for that being.

Neither YOU nor Dumbo have done so. You lose...Mockery is all you deserve because you haven't actually presented ANY science.


Now prove Unicorns and Leprechauns don't exist. Using your argument, they do.

 

Tsk, tsk. More angry name calling and still no refutation of the science I posted. You are to be dismissed and ignored as you have nothing to refute the scientist I cited.

 

It's interesting how often those who CLAIM to have the most "faith" in God....

are the ones who most desperately seek to "prove" He exists.

 

don't forget nothing can become -1 and +1 thus it still adds up to nothing, but it is also something... can't deny that as were here

where did your God come from, is there an anti-god that can cancel out God too? or does God invalidate the rules of getting something from nothing?

what we do know though is genesis was incorrect and if one of the main stories of the bible got it wrong.. then it's not the word of God

"Making Something From Nothing: Researchers Find That Matter Can Be Conjured from a Vacuum"

http://www.popsci.com/science/artic...ing-theory-says-matter-can-be-conjured-vacuum
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What's truly sad is, you lack the skill set to know what he claims IS NOT SCIENCE. Perhaps you should get your Science from those who actually do the Science.

We don't know if the 1Lot was in play when the Big Bang happened, or is it a result of that beginning? It's something we don't have an answer for as of yet. Making truth claims either way is dishonest.

 

Obviously you have no idea what science is either. You have yet to present any.

 

There is no scientific evidence to prove God exists or disprove god exists. The belief in God comes from faith and only faith.

 

I disagree. I posted the science.

 

yes, but you posted no proof God exists...

 

Einstein, you're the one making the positive claim of gods existence. The burden of proof is upon you to prove your claim.

Puhleese....read a Biology book.

 

Or "It's interesting how often those who CLAIM to have the most "faith" God does not exist .are the ones who most desperately seek to "prove" He doesn't exit."

would you say that statement is true as well?

 

You didn't post science. You posted a claim based on misrepresentation and assertion of the 1LoT. Science can be tested and it makes predictions. What you posted, is not science.

 

You did not post scienc at all. YOu posted conjecture.

 

I don't know how much folks here are going to trust "science" from someone who mixes up scientists and makeup technicians.