Horrific homophobic murder of gay man in South Africa

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    This is just sickening

    http://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/27/cape-teens-watch-as-gay-man-beaten-set-on-fire/

    A young gay man has been brutally tortured and killed in a horror hate murder in the Western Cape.

    The Son daily Afrikaans newspaper reported that 23-year-old David Olyne from Ceres was killed over the weekend while a group of teens blithely watched on.

    Senior Reporter Maahir Pretorius told Mambaonline that his investigation had led him to seven individuals between the ages of 14 and 16 and one of 18 years who apparently witnessed Olyne’s nightmarish death.

    On Saturday evening, the youths from the Belle Vista neighbourhood were drinking near a local dam when they were invited by a man to watch how he was “going to kill a moffie [(*)(*)(*)].” (slang for homosexual)

    They arrived on the scene where they found the victim already covered in blood and tied up with wire.

    The teens were urged to watch as the alleged attacker bashed Olyne on the head with a brick and jumped on his face while shouting in Afrikaans, “voetsek” ["(*)(*)(*)(*) off"].

    Throughout the ordeal, Olyne only made groaning noises, said the teenagers. The alleged killer then placed branches around the victim and set him on fire.

    Shockingly, the young witnesses wandered off without telling anyone about the incident. They returned to the scene the next morning to see if Olyne was still alive.

    Only then did they inform a woman about the lifeless and half-naked burnt body. She in turn called the police.


    When there are still horrific attacks like this going on in the world, with a man beaten and burned to death just because the attacker thought he was gay, I think the issue of bigotry towards homosexuals is still very relevant.
     
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    iamkurtz Banned

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    Link me to all of your other posts expressing your concern for Africa.
     
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    Do you have something to add, or are you here to troll? Oh wait, guess I know the answer.
     
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    SFJEFF New Member

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    Thank you for your concern and outrage at the murder of this man just because he was homosexual.
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Cant even find a wiki page for your source closest thing is a dating site??
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You could fill a river with with the conservative tears flowing from this thread.
     
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    This is a terrible death. This is obviously extremely rare as you had to go to Africa to find a single case of this. Did you know that there were 2,123 Christians killed for their faith in Syria alone last year? Do you feel the same way about the bigotry towards Christians?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/us-christianity-persecution-report-idUSBREA070PB20140108
     
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    SFJEFF New Member

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    Not sure of what your point is.

    Here is another link about the crime

    http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2014/04/03/hate-crime-is-in-season

    And another- though it appears to be a direct copy

    http://news.howzit.msn.com/hate-crime-is-in-season

    Thanks for sharing your outrage.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I actually do feel the same way towards about bigotry towards Christians- I was however reporting a current event.

    I think all deaths are tragic, and murders tend towards horrific, and those who are killed because of their religion, or skin color, or sexual identity deserve to be recognized.
     
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    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    There's really nothing else to say except that it is just awful.

    I'd ask you for a link, but your lack of concern is quite evident.

    Why don't you start your own thread on it if you want to know so bad instead of trying to drag this one off-topic?

    The problem with a google search on this story is the original was printed in an Afrikaans newspaper, The Son.
     
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    What a horrific crime.......violence in SA is worse than here, with over 3000 Boer farmers being slaughtered in the last few years. SA will go the way of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe in the next few years. I feel sorry for the Whites that can't get out before SA descends into chaos
     
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    Good to hear. This sadistic sociopath that committed this specific murder was certainly a sick and evil individual.

    I find it interesting that so many homosexuals commit murder themselves. I'm not sure why this is:

    "A study of 518 sexually-tinged mass murders in the U.S. from 1966 to 1983 determined that 350
    (68%) of the victims were killed by those who practiced homosexuality and that
    19 (44%) of the 43 murderers were bisexuals or homosexuals."

    And all six of your top mass-murderers in the US are homosexual:

    • Donald Harvey claimed 37 victims in Kentucky;

    • John Wayne Gacy raped and killed 33 boys in Chicago, burying them under his house and
    in his yard;


    • Patrick Kearney accounted for 32, cutting his victims into small pieces after sex and
    leaving them in trash bags along the Los Angeles freeways;


    • Bruce Davis molested and killed 27 young men and boys in Illinois;

    • A gay sex-murder-torture ring (Corll-Henley-Brooks) sent 27 Texas men and boys to
    their grave


    • Juan Corona was convicted of murdering 25 migrant workers (he “made love” with their
    corpses).


    http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/violence-and-homosexuality/
     
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    Sorry liberals its hard to give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about this considering you people just went on a manhunt to remove a guy from his private business for making a private donation to a proposition 6 years ago which was passed by public vote in the America's most liberal state.

    Maybe you people should pick your fights instead of whining and crying like little babies.
     
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    So lighting a guy in fire gets a pass from you because some guy on your side lost his job?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Nature or nurture?
     
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    Is that what I said? No.

    I'm going to copy paste the pair of ultra complex sentences I originally typed for your review:

    Sorry liberals its hard to give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about this considering you people just went on a manhunt to remove a guy from his private business for making a private donation to a proposition 6 years ago which was passed by public vote in the America's most liberal state.

    Maybe you people should pick your fights instead of whining and crying like little babies
     
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    There are, on average, over 50 murders per hour globally with many of them being exceedingly horrific, but everyone should be outraged over this particular one because you say so?
     
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    I'm pretty sure that the worst mass murderer in the US, Timothy McVeigh, was straight.

    I'm pretty sure that Seung-Hui Cho and Adam Lanza were straight, too. Just a hunch.
     
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    Thanks for the information i saved the outrage until i know this story is legit.
     
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    May his soul rest in peace. May whatever god he believe in look after his soul. Let's hope that the people responsible for this are caught and punished by the law.
     
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    What evidence did you use to calculate Lanzas sexuality?
     
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    As the US becomes more gay friendly it seems the rest of the world is becoming more hostile toward gays. You would think the US would influence the world on the view of such things. No one has to agree with or accept homosexuality but this type of awful violence should be condemned by everyone.
     
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    Wow there are some disgusting sick people on this site. Whatever version of God you have created in your head will be pleased with your heartfelt response at someone being tourchered, murdered, and lit on fire.

    As for the OP - may his soul rest in peace. Between the white genocide and the take over by extremists "religious" fanatics that country is lost on all fronts.

     
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    He's cherry picking news... from around the world.
    He couldn't care less about the people, he is only after a reaction here. Hoping to throw the "homophobe" word around a few hundred more times.

    Rule 11 completely ignored while doing so.

    It's terrible when people are murdered, but unless you say it's worse when the person is gay... these goofs will just be posting the same responses they post 24/7.
     
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    Lolz... of course he doesn't care.

    His threads aren't about compassion for humanity... they're all about scolding people for not crying because the guy is gay.



    He even admits what he's after in his first response (he always does):

     
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    And in this troll-thread, what have you liberals done other than attempt to insult others?
     
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    Seriously- you refer to the 'Family Research Institute'? About as homophobic of an organization that there is.

    Why am I not surprised that the numbers are rather 'off'.

    32 killed - April 16, 2007 - Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia. A gunman, 23-year-old student Seung-Hui Cho, goes on a shooting spree killing 32 people in two locations and wounds an undetermined number of others on campus. The shooter, Seung-Hui Cho then committed suicide.

    Cho was raised as a Christian. Relevant? As relevant as trying to paint homosexuals as murderers

    27 killed - December 14, 2012 - Sandy Hook Elementary School - Newtown, Connecticut. Adam Lanza, 20, guns down 20 children, ages 6 and 7, and six adults, school staff and faculty, before turning the gun on himself. Investigating police later find Nancy Lanza, Adam's mother, dead from a gunshot wound. The final count is 28 dead, including the shooter.

    Adam Lanza was reported to have been raised as a Catholic.

    More shall we?

    168 killed- Timothy J. McVeigh & Terry Nichols (168) Speed freak Timothy McVeigh and fellow white-trash-neo-nazi-ex-soldier Terry Nichols are believed to be responsible for blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. McVeigh and Co. thought the assault on the Branch Davidian compound by federal authorities in 1993 was a step towards civil war. (cont.)

    Mcveigh was raised a Catholic.

    87 murdered- Julio Gonzalez (87) Cuban born Gonzalez came to the United States in the 1980 Mariel boat lift. Ten years later, in a fit of jealousy, he killed eighty-seven partiers. Pissed off at his ex-girlfriend, Lydia Feliciano, who was dancing with someone else, Julio bought a buck's worth of gasoline and torched the Bronx's Happy Land Social Club killing nearly everyone inside. Only six survived. As luck would have it, one of them was lucky Lydia, his ex-girlfriend.

    Religion unknown- but a known heterosexual.


    45 murdered- Andrew Kehoe (45) The first mad bomber in U.S. soil, on May 18, 1927, Andy blew up a school in Bath, Michigan, killing 45 people, 37 of them children. After detonating explosives he planted under the school, "maniac bomber" Andrew Kehoe, a school board member and treasurer and farmer, blew up his pickup truck, killing himself and the Bath School superintendent.

    Kehoe was Roman Catholic.

    44 murdered- Jack Gilbert Graham (44) Jack, a petty criminal, was always annoyed by his doting mother. In 1955, when she came to visit him in Denver, Jack gave her a Christmas present to take back home with her on the plane. The present, fourteen pounds of dynamite with a timer in a box, blew up shortly after takeoff. This, he said, made him feel freer than he had ever felt before. It also got him gassed in 1957.

    Married heterosexual

    David Burke (43) On December 7, 1987, David Burke, a fired airline employee, followed his ex-boss onboard a Pacific Southwest Airline jet with his mind set on revenge. He shot the man in mid-flight and caused the plane to crash, killing all forty-three people onboard including himself.

    Burke was a known heterosexual

    I could be asking- why are heterosexuals and Christians so linked with mass murder- but frankly that would be just as biased and ludicrous as your post.
     
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