Who's who in the "government" of Ukraine. part 1

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    In Ukraine from 29 Ministers -9 held in criminal cases, 1 gay, 1 patient psychiatric hospital, one admitted to stealing the child, one prosecuted for divulging state secrets, 1 was wanted by Interpol, 1 - rowdy and drunk ...
    Alexander Turchinov - Acting President of Ukraine and the Verkhovna Rada Speaker, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (50 years)
    In the power Turchinov appeared as a longtime friend and " right hand " of Yulia Tymoshenko , with which in 1999 established the party "Fatherland" . As the leader SBU in 2005 destroyed the evidence against his party chief. From the archives of the Security Service of Ukraine has lost all documents concerning the withdrawal of budget funds for Ukraine billions shadow schemes involving gangs. On the eve of parliamentary elections in 2006, the General Prosecutor's Office opened a criminal case on the fact of listening to senior officials in the days of As the leader Security Service of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov . About business Oleksandr Turchynov not forget , even in the most violent revolutionary days . According to media reports , the Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and part-time priest Baptist Church is involved in a multimillion-dollar investment project for construction of the largest in the Baltic Data Center , in which , according to journalists in the Lithuanian Kaunas planned to invest about $ 200 million .
    Arsen Avakov (Avakian) - Minister of the Interior (50 years)
    Approximate of Viktor Yushchenko's, seven times found in corruption scandals . In January 2012, the Prosecutor's Office opened criminal proceedings against Avakov on charges of abuse of power and official authority , which caused grave consequences . January 31, 2012 Arsen Avakov was put on the international wanted list since fled to Italy. In March of the same year an Italian court arrested him for 40 days. In April 2012 Avakov was released , and in early October the Italian court refused to Ukraine to extradite this "policy" . In the parliamentary elections in 2012 Arsen Avakov was elected deputy of the lists of united opposition from the party "Fatherland" and returned to Kiev . He, together with PASHINSKY , was the organizer of bankruptcy "Turboatom " Kharkiv National Medical University , AK " Kharkivoblenergo " - stolen more than 150 million hryvnia
    Avakov - a close friend of Boris Berezovsky. Since 1993, checked for involvement in the commission of a number of serious crimes, including the murder of Deputy Chairman of JSC "Investor" Konovalov AA, theft on a large scale with gas condensate field Balakleysky GPU "Shebelinkagasvydobuvannya."
    Vladimir Groisman - Deputy Prime Minister for Regional Policy, Construction, Housing and Utilities (36 years)
    In politics came thanks to Yulia Tymoshenko. In his early youth he was a metalworker, but in 16 years, suddenly rose to the commercial director of a small business "OKO". A few years later became commercial director Vinnitsa market "Youth", drawn up by his father. In 2006, Vladimir Groisman was elected mayor in the winery. In December 2009, against the father and son Groisman was prosecuted for fraud in especially large amounts of art. 190 Part 4 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. Stolen sum of 100 million hryvnia.
    Lyudmila Denisova - Minister of Social Policy (53)
    Member of the party "Fatherland ." Specialty - a kindergarten teacher , but managed to work and the clerk of the court and counsel , and the inspector on the staff, head of the Pension Fund of Ukraine and the Minister of Finance in the Crimea. Position left with scandal after detention by prosecutors for " malpractice " were arrested on suspicion of involvement in corruption : it was accused of " illegal transfer of state property of one of the commercial structures ." In an interview with the chairman of the Armed Forces of the Crimea Leonid Grach said that Denisova virtually unmatched in skill in organizing illegal schemes misappropriation of public money.
    Sergei Kvit - Minister of Education and Science (48 years)
    President of the National University of "Kyiv-Mohyla Academy". Best friends Kvita - banderovets Tyahnibok and nationalist Umland, suspected of pedophilia.
    Sergei Kvit and German " political scientist " Andreas Umland - former advisor to President Viktor Yushchenko , associate professor of Kyiv- Mohyla Academy, very close. Andreas Umland known in Ukraine and Germany as the ultra-liberal "expert" , whose main occupation was recently intimidation German everyman " terrible Russian fascism ." On the other hand , Umland became known to the public in 2010, when Ukraine erupted scandal associated with pedophilic orgies in children's camp "Artek" . At home was accused of attempting to rape a 13 - year-old girl and participation in the largest in the history of the German network for the dissemination of child pornography.

    To be continued.
     
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    They look like a bunch of crooks and second-hand car salesmen.
     
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    They are and have rogues. And them support the U.S. and EU
     
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    Interesting to find out, will they arrange elections of a legitimate government? Perhaps, they would wait until eastern Ukrainian territories will be turned to Russia. Then, they may have enough votes to continue towards EU with only Carpathian regions of the country. This will be a cozy and united nationalist Ukraine they want. Perhaps, even Kiev would not mind to become a Russian city.
     
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    meanwhile Russia is supporting, Jobbik, Marie Le Penn, Wilders and Farage or UKIP most noticeably because I assume like yourself they are anti EU.

    http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141067/mitchell-a-orenstein/putins-western-allies

    It would appear Russia is capitalising on both the nausea with America's wars and the rise of the far right in Europe. One article I was reading saw America from the Russian perspective as something like the deranged child of Europe and the EU, Europe's traitor. Instead they saw Russia as the natural leader of Europe.

    The reason for this. Look at Europe they say, a multicultural mess which has not kept up with it's European traditions and whose sexuality is decadent. Russia had not given up on it's traditions. Russia does not condone gays and now Russia even keeps up with Europe's tradition of Christianity....and the far right love it.
     
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    This is good, because this indicates real multicultural interactions with positive influence of Russia. Putin speaks softly, but he carries a big stick, like one of our past presidents did (Theodore Roosevelt). I understand that homosexuals are humans and they need their own living space protected, but I am against of imposing their life style on the rest of the population. Why they are proud with what they are doing in bedrooms?
     
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    "1 Gay"

    perfect example of Russia Imperialist homophobia.
     
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    I had gays among my friends, not very close ones. I have never offended them or rejected any friendly contacts on grounds of common interests. Perhaps, I would find their advances very repulsive, but this never happened, fortunately. What I did not like was their demonstrations with grotesque, deliberately offensive to straight public displays. I doubt, if they can win minds and hearts this way. This not just Russian, this is American as well. I agree this is a complicated social issue. I understand lesbians, because in my view women are beautiful...
     
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    I doubt they will have an election and I doubt they even planned on it. They've already overthrown democracy via force. There was a vote due next year anyway, but of course, they usually don't have popular opinion on their side, which is the reason coup de'tats are meant for.
     
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    There's no shortage of threads about Russia. What do you think about the Kiev government? How do you think things are working out so far in Kiev? Even the EU eventually admitted that extremist nutters are now a problem in Kiev.
     
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    Well why not, we are now giving heavy arms to terrorists in Syria who are beheading and ethnically cleansing Christians and other minorities. Aren't we lovely? :angel:
     
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    I am just learning. Probably heard more of the Russian side to begin with. Many in Germany r supporting Russia. From what I have read Russia is.more dangerous on the far right topic. That takes presidence with me.

    Sorry that was a reply to hfd. Am using my phone and missed the quote
     
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    Russia has given a lot of hope to authoritarian regimes who want to steal land, like Iran...China....North Korea...Venezuela...etc.
     
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    The irony of Venezuela is not lost on the more astute observers.
     
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    A very paranoid writer if you ask me, but then again everyone involved in our foreign affairs department has to be an idiot. I couldn't believe it when they said Russia was only posturing, and had no plans on reuniting with Crimea. :frustrated:
     
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    No one writer jeanette. I put in a search earlier for far right and Russia. Removed any sympathy I had for Russia. Britain or rather England is one of those countries with an anti gay anti eu partywhich is becoming popular. We may go for independence but as my daughter said last night we don't want the English becoming Nazi. They r too close.
     
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    Certainly, from Russia's perspective, Western hypocrisy hasn't gone un-noticed. For the latter to now claim any kind of moral authority over Russian actions is, frankly, astounding. I think the can of worms Russia has opened is the fact that far-right fringe parties of the kind you highlighted are exploiting the situation for their own political ends. It's no coincidence that Farage has trumpeted Putin. As always, the far-right jump on any bandwagon if they feel they are able to potentially gain any political capital by so doing. Farage is cynically tapping into (mainly) English discontent in relation to Western foreign policy hypocrisy in their response to Russia's actions. Hence it makes it easier for UKIP to depict the EU as a imperialistic and expansionist organization out of touch with ordinary people. It's a sorry state of affairs when internationalist progressives are finding themselves partly in agreement with Little Englander's like Farage.
     
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    May be this is a beginning of the end of EU? People will realize that EU does not provide any benefits to their countries.
     
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    I wish you, felicitously to hold a referendum. And also - let desire of the people will be satisfied.
     
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    (laughs) Bravo!!! It is the pinnacle of democracy. Bomb the country in the heart of Europe - What could be more democratic?
     
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    We do not mind to support authoritarian regimes, if they are our "friends". If some groups are anti Russian, they are automatically considered "democratic" and are supported.
     
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    These people have no leverage at all. They are begging for money and weapons in EU and in USA. It is a shame Obama recognized and supported them. Interesting how they will get rid off stigma of the right groups? If this dragon shed its skin, his ugly nature will stay. Who can trust them?
     
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    You don't have a clue what you're talking about the new Presidential elections are scheduled for May 25th and have been for some time which is well within the Constitutionally mandated 90 days following an impeachment.
     
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    Politically motivated prosecutions directed by the party in power against the opposition, look at those mounds of evidence presented against these people. :roll:
     
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    No trout. It is as I said. The European far right parties are the ones being supported and courted by Russia who sees them as thinking alike and also because they want to destroy the eu. Do a search.
     

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