If You Believe Homosexual Acts Are Immoral, Why Are You Labeled a "homophobe"?

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I always thought the word "phobia" was meant to describe an "UNREASONABLE fear". Note, not just any fear it has to be "unreasonable"

    I believe that homosexual activity is immoral. Why do people such as myself get called "homophobes" or being "homophobic". Yet, I don't know a single homosexual person or any particular group of homosexual people that I fear. Much less have an UNREASONABLE fear of.

    so why the "homophobic" label?
     
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    Who has been calling you a homophobe?

    ho·mo·phobe noun \-ˌfōb\
    : a person who hates or is afraid of homosexuals or treats them badly

    Other dictionaries use similar definitions. So a homophobe doesn't need to fear homosexuals, but would be either hate homosexuals, be afraid of homosexuals or discriminate against homosexuals.

    I would not call you a homophobe just because you think homosexual activity is immoral- no more than I would call a Catholic who believes that anyone who divorces is immoral a bigot.

    Now- if you were to argue that homosexuals are bad people, who deserve to be discriminated against, because you don't approve of how they may be having sex in the privacy of their home- then I might be more tempted to label that kind of comment homophobic.
     
  3. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So fear of what others do in their lives that does not impact or affect you in the least is reasonable?

    I have to disagree with you.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Names.
    Their only weapon.

    They constantly make fools of themselves on the news trying to force their beliefs on businesses who simply, and quietly disagree with them... then when you dare ask them why... they fall back on names.

    Unfortunately for them, no one takes that word seriously.
    It very quickly surpassed "racist" as the most over-used and improperly used word of all time.
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    Just STOP!! Get some education man.

    Look up the word, "homophobia" and see how it fits, where the discussion of human sexuality is concerned.

    Do you know how many posts and threads have been created, exclaiming the kind of thing you share above??!!!
     
  6. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Nowhere near as many as you overusing the word "homophobe".

    Or saying "I'm leaving this site".
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Adding the idea of hate to homophobe only became en vogue after it was realized that their attempts to assign fear as weakness failed. Who even uses homophobe anymore, their new pet term is bigot, see how long that lasts...
     
  8. Dayton3

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    I will add. I believe homosexuality is morally wrong. Now, I do not believe in treating homosexuals differently, but I do believe that marriage is "one man and one woman at one time and that should be what governments recognize as a marriage.

    No group marriages. No polygamy. No same sex.

    I still don't think I'm a homophobe.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Of course you're not... but blatant truth has no place in their accusations.

    You'll see ;)
     
  10. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is hysterical.

    I don't believe in treating differently, but I believe they should be legally restricted from enjoying equal protection under the law and not have the same benefits as otehr consenting adults.
     
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    this homophobic CRUD is based on somebodies PRIDE in being able to strike terror onto the heats of many who disagree with their choices.
     
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    Because there's no rational reason to dislike homosexuality, it's just a gut emotional rejection to something that is "unusual". Maybe it has its roots in some kind of evolutionary instinct - get rid of the gays because they don't help reproduce or something. I don't really know.
     
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    Yep. I submit that most of this talking about gay rights, needs to be rolled ever more heavily (by gays and their advocates) into attaining and protecting the rights homosexuals people deserve.

    Homophobia isn't any perfect word... but it describes well enough, many of the things which gay people must be on guard and defend against.
     
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    Thanks for your opinion.
     
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    Yes, it is homophobic because morality is just egotistic opinion.

    - - - Updated - - -

    different topic though - how about unmarried homos, do you hate them as well?
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Who said they hate homosexuals? Did you just tell a lie?
     
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    Homophobia equals hatred of homosexuals - it doesn't need to be clearly stated.

    Most homophobes are latents anyway.
     
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    your a homophone if you have a fear that allowing same sex couples will destroy the fabric of society and must be prevented at all costs....
     
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    Marriage is a separate topic - you can oppose SSM and not be a homophobe, but to oppose homosexuality itself, IS homophobic.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Lol.... ^^^

    ffs, the lunacy.

    You gays and various other name-callers should get your story straight on the "definition" that you all hold so dear.

    Where does Webster say phobia = hate ?
     
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    Semantics doesn't hide the hate.

    Most homo haters are secret gays anyway.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    No, but uneducated posters making stupid comments certainly distracts from whatever point they're trying to make.

    Which was.... ?




    Calling someone gay will always be an insult.

    One thing that will never go away.
     
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    Morality is a human invention - there isn't any such thing as morality. We don't allow child molestation for the safety of the child. But I really couldn't care what your opinion of "morality" is.
     
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    Calling someone something which they are not, and which the accuser intends as an insult, will always be insulting.

    In my opinion homophobia is an unnatural negative obsession or focus by a heterosexual on homosexuality.

    Most of us do not think about things we find unpleasant. The fact of our parents having sexual intercourse for example is something that most of us block out. We know it happened, and if our parents are young enough and still together it still does. Yet even so we are able to have relationships with them without obsessing over the fact. We realize that everyone defecates, that people we find unattractive masturbate and so on but it seldom interferes with how we think of them.

    So normal heterosexuals for the most part realize that homosexuals exist, but do not think about it much. A homosexual is just another person with the same basic human drives and needs as anyone. And deserving of the same rights.

    Everyone is allowed to follow whatever their personal morals tell them, until those morals interfere with basic human rights.
     
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    I sympathize with your inability to follow your desired code and If you need a dictator to make you marry a woman I can help you. I am not without sympathy.
     
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