Bundy Ranch Now Surrounded by Heavily Armed Guards as Talk of Federal Raid Picks Up

http://www.libertynews.com/2014/04/...of-federal-raid-picks-up/#DXDee581C1ioiGyL.99

Doesn't look like it is over yet. :-/

Hopefully the feds figure out how to handle this properly and not spark the 2nd American Revolution.

 

The only way the Feds should handle this problem is to palce barbed wire around any and all federal land that surruonds the Bundy Ranch. then maybe Clivel and others will get the idea.

 

I'd prefer to have the 2nd American Revolution, myself.

 

The Fox News Propaganda talking heads need to be arrested for incitement to riot. They're the ones stirring the pot with this non issue.

 

I would enjoy that, but alas, some rancher isn't going to move the needle much no matter what happens to him.

Seems to me this issue is far simpler than folks are making it. He is either a) grazing his cattle on government property or b) he is not. Since it's taken forever to sort it out, folks just need to chill out while they fast track this issue through the courts. If he losses there is nothing he can do about keeping his land or his cows.

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Me too. But it isn't going to happen because of some yahoo rancher.

 

That would be wonderful. Very prison camp-like. Yeah, that'd send a message.

 

It might. This really isnt about cows grazing or land. Both sides are looking to make a statement here. If the feds initiate force and americans are killed wars have started over less.

 

Wanna bet? If they decide he cannot graze anymore he will be removed and that will be that. You will get your typical whining by some, but at the end of the day he'll be dead or in jail and everything will be the same as it was before he was removed. None of the very few people who care will do anything. They never do.

 

Don't under estimate people who think they are right.

 

Who would fight in this "2nd American Revolution"?....Bloggers from the 109th Keyboard Commandos?



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As I always like to say to such statements....


"You go first"

 

Every action has a reaction. You can put up pictures of whoever you want but its the government initiating all this just like they did with Waco. Leave people alone and this crap doesnt happen......Force them into a corner and dont be suprised when they try to defend themselves.

 

And what did he accomplish? Nothing. Just like the rancher will. Killing innocent people is easy. Literally anyone can do it. But actually changing things? That takes someone truly special. The rancher here isn't that person.

 

Hopefully, nobody....



But than again... people who get upset tend to do things...



"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- to some people, it's not just a quote... and they have firearms and weapons.

 

the door swings both ways...what did Waco accomplish? What is the BLM accomplish? Leave people the hell alone and this stuff doesnt happen.

 

Take a look at the 5,000 armed militia members on sight.

 

I am sure you would as long as you are not around! If you feel so strongly about this Mr. Tuff guy why are you on your keyboard instead of packing up your guns to go assist Mr. Bundy??? I think it os really easy to be a keyboard commando, than actually putting down the ice cream and going up there.


So lets recap the Reid angle has been debunked, whih is very funny since it came off Facebook. So what we have is a man that criminally is trespassing at this point. He owes the government a million dollars. He has lost every court case. Now the gun nuts think they are protecting his rights. We have people calling for an armed revolution.

Some people are looking very foolish at this point and will probably end up in jail or worse. Note to righties do not believe every chain email or internet posting. Not everything on the internet you read or in your spam folder is true.

 

There are 5,000 at the ranch right now? Where are you getting that?

 

What do you mean? The government wanted Koresh disarmed and out of the compound. They took care of it. They accomplished exactly what they wanted to.

They want him to stop illegally (in their eyes) grazing on public land. They will do just that.

The government's goal is simple: Keep everyone in line via the massive police power of the state. They have easily accomplished that goal.

 

You still think this is about Bundy?

 

Timothy McVeigh was "defending himself"?!?!?!?!?

 

Sure and in the process they have the majority of the populace ready to fight a war to remove them from power.

The cost-benefit ratio just doesnt add up.

 

Under what legal authority are they acting? Hell, under what LEGAL basis are they acting?

As I just posted, even sympathetic Rightwing pundits admit Bundy is in the wrong legally.

 

Oh, ain't it all so wonderful.

Just gives that warm fuzzy feeling inside.

 

No the BDs were as are the Bundy supporters. McVeigh took the governments tactics away from them and went on the offense. I think you will be hard pressed to find a conservative that wont say McVeigh was a terrorist. Extreme right maybe. The extreme left has had plenty of civilian terrorists through the years as well. Ask Obama...he knew many personally.

 

Say it then.