Hitler supposed suicide

Discussion in 'Conspiracy Theories' started by Coolia, Apr 18, 2014.

You are viewing posts in the Conspiracy Theory forum. PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening.

  1. Coolia

    Coolia New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I, for one, do not believe that Hitler committed suicide. He was just too cagey and too smart to take the easy way out like that. He either escaped, or was helped in some way.

    Certainly, he and other Nazis were more valuable alive than dead with their advanced technology and knowledge.

    I watched an episode of Ancient Aliens where the US recruited some of the Nazi rocket scientists to help with their rocket technology.
     
  2. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2008
    Messages:
    5,287
    Likes Received:
    847
    Trophy Points:
    113
  3. verystormy

    verystormy Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    444
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    28
    I suggest you do some reading. The biography of Hitler writen as part of the BBC series is an excellent start.

    Hitler had always stated that if he felt the war could not be won, he would rather take his life than be captured. He was also well aware of the fate that awaited him - hanging.
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,550
    Likes Received:
    63,004
    Trophy Points:
    113
    the crazy control freak that Hitler was, I can see him thinking he was somehow winning by not letting them kill him and doing it himself.. he would only do it if it was in his own best interest, not anyone elses

    .
     
  5. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Messages:
    12,545
    Likes Received:
    2,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sure, he spent the last years of his life hanging out with JFK and Elvis.

    Hitler killed himself, or somebody in the bunker killed him. Of that I have no doubt. His Thousand Year Reich was in ruins, he had ordered the arrest of the #2 man in the Nazi Party, the Soviets were within sight of his bunker complex, he was living on drugs, and his health was failing fast.

    There was no way he was going to allow himself to be captured.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,180
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And Hitler was, of course, to be trusted implicitly and absolutely. He had never lied or been deceptive at any time.

    Hitler was a classic psychopath and while they are masters at lying and creatures of deceit few of them are ever suicidal (The best bio of Hitler IMO is "The Psychopathic God" by Robert G.L. Waite, a fascinating book which views him as a dysfunctional personality.

    But was the man in the Bunker Hitler? My theory is that he escaped to Argentina in January of 1945, after the Bulge failed. It was obvious then that Germany had lost, but Hitler still had substantial resources to escape with at the time.
     
  7. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Messages:
    12,545
    Likes Received:
    2,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, it was Hitler. Of that I have no question.

    Anybody who has studied Hitler knows that he would not have "run away", especially as early as 1945. As for the claim that he slipped away to Argentina, ludicrous.

    In the previous century, a lot of Germans immigrated to Argentina, just as they had the US. And the Argentine Military was heavily influenced by a Germanophile stance (much as the military of Japan was largely Anglo-Americanophiles - patterned off of the US Army and Royal Navy). But the country was officially neutral during most of the war, and the government was less favorable (because of Hitler's strong stance against minorities, a lot of which lived in Argentina).

    The popular media and population supported the Allies, they simply did not support Britton because of long-standing disputes and an attempted invasion by them in the past century.

    And once they had their 1944 Revolution and the military essentially took charge of Argentina, they almost completely turned their backs on the Axis powers, and officially supported the Allies until the conclusion of the war.

    And interestingly enough, over 4,000 Argentines did volunteer to fight in the war, for England. One of the most famous was the 164th Squadron, which first flew Spitfires, then later Hurricanes and Typhoons.

    [​IMG]

    And although Juan Peron was undoubtedly a National Socialist, he was not supportive of the Hitler Regime. His "accepting" of Nazi war criminals was strictly for financial and technological gain (much as similar programs like PAPERCLIP in the US). Ideologically, they were never very comfortable and a great many moved on to other nations like Uruguay and Paraguay.

    If Hitler had moved to Argentina, it would not have remained a secret. Not only would the revolution a year later have outed him, he could not have controlled Germany as he had from afar. I have no doubts that his Generals and Marshals would have fought the defense of Germany much better then Der Paper Hanger did.
     
  8. Jango

    Jango New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    2,683
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Probably something more akin to what Gaddafi got in his final minutes/moments.
     
  9. Jango

    Jango New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    2,683
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't doubt that he died in his continuity bunker. Is there credible evidence of his death though, like a photo that has been verified?
     

Share This Page