Foreign doctors should face tougher exams, study says

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    Foreign doctors should face tougher exams, study says

    Here's a BBC story that could well relate to what's happening here in the USA. As we lose more home-bred doctors due to the massive adverse changes in our health-care system, more foreign doctors will take their place. Do we have tough enough tests for them?

    Read the full story @ http://www.bbc.com/news/health-27076216

    And, it links to this story @ http://www.bbc.com/news/health-27076137
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am a retired M.D./ G.P. and was never happy with FMG's (foreign medical graduates).
    Sometimes they can, really, really be excellent. Mostly in physical diagnosis relying less on "images".

    Problem: In :flagus:, one has to be two standard deviations below the mean to fail medical boards exams.
    I figure that takes misspelling your name. It isn't like the bar exams with 50% failure rates.

    The better process for integrating foreign medical graduates is by observing their performance in a clinical setting for an extended period of time.

    A local problem with FMG's is their clannishness and poor quality health care delivery if you are not one of the clan.
    I have warned elderly neighbors not to take a referral to any Hindu specialist in Orange County, California.
    Because, once you've seen one, beware of seeing two more the same clan.
    I get the "liberal" blah blah and they do it.
    And they are referred on to one or two Hindu specialist by the first one.
    Every patient a local Hindu cardiologist sees is referred on to a Hindu Pulmonologist.
    And y'know there are regular American specialist and other clan FMG's they could have been referred to locally.
    This experience repeats itself like deja vus 3 times in the last years.

    Back to the Point: Screw the exam system. Reality works best.
    Not exactly an internship but, a period of mentoring reviews of their charts and clinical conduct.



    Moi, M.D. ret. :oldman:





    No :flagcanada:
     
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    There are good and bad in any demographic. My personal lay opinion based on experience is that it is better to have a doctor who is part of a practice with at least two other doctors (i.e. no procedure churning lone wolves who will refer you out if they find anything really wrong with you or 2 doctors with the same credentials/background), and preferably more doctors with varying backgrounds.

    Based on my dealings with elderly relatives and their medical needs, I found that the best foreign born doctors were usually part of a practice group with an American at the head and that the worst were foreign born doctors who were in charge of their practice. I have found doctors from India/Pakastan more suspect than those from other places.
     
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    Being a person who could not get insurance due to a pre-existing condition I went to India for major surgery. I would rank the doctors I had at least the equal of those in the United States. Only major differerence I could see is they seem to care more about their patients.
     
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    There a few good ones from those areas in my city, but there are some who have not such great reputations and a couple I have had family member deal with who definitely did not get great care out of them. Your post does raise a caveat. I find that there is a wildly different dynamic between doctors who practice surgery and those who just practice medicine. Most of the foreign doctors I am familiar with or have experiences with are pill pushers, not surgeons. Very few foreign born surgeons in our area and the ones who are tend to be of some Hispanic/Latin America/Cuban background.
     

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